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Post by admin1 aka Ed on Mar 30, 2010 21:15:26 GMT -5
OK...odd question-- What is the tallest "ST" style vintage diecast? I was shocked the other day to see how big the ST Zanbot was.....
Maybe someone out there just collects these smaller sizes and has a group shot.
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Post by admin1 aka Ed on Mar 30, 2010 21:16:15 GMT -5
FYI for those that don't know or are about to grill me. ST is for Safety Standards.
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Post by admin1 aka Ed on Apr 2, 2010 16:16:32 GMT -5
crickets chirp.,,
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Post by repairtechjon on Apr 6, 2010 0:54:02 GMT -5
HA! Sorry to be slow to reply Ed, but would you consider the "Basic Fundamental" Clover bots like Xabungle, and Daiojya? I'd vote for them, and they're in the same family as the Zambot ST, I think.
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Post by shogunkid on Sept 28, 2018 9:49:18 GMT -5
I found this old thread searching for something else... seems like hardly anyone answered so I'll throw in my 2 cents:
The tallest standards I have in my collection are the Clover Tryder G7 and Zanbot 3... If we are talking about Popy then it might be Godsigma and Combattra. I don't have have a standard Voltes V and since it is considered larger than Combattra it might be taller as a standard. Can anyone confirm? I don't know of any Takatoku's or Bullmarks that would be in the running though my standard Bullmark Daibaron is larger than most Popy's but shorter than the Clover standards.
Its interesting how Popy varied the height of their standard robots... was there some scale they were working off of? Would be an interesting project to get the supposed height of the robots as used in the anime/shows in meters to compare...
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Post by shogunkid on Sept 28, 2018 16:22:47 GMT -5
Anyone know a reference for the "actual height" of our robots?  Sometimes I see it on the box of e.g. Takatoku and in the blueprints for some of them... |
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Post by cybermuton on Oct 1, 2018 11:24:34 GMT -5
Can't verify with a tape measure right now, but I know that the Takatoku Big Dai X ST is way taller than the Popy STs....
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Post by cybermuton on Oct 1, 2018 11:32:31 GMT -5
OK - forget that. Without them in front of me for reference (I'm at work right now), I realise I was thinking of the Dai X DX - which is actually a lot smaller than most DXs (apart perhaps from Popy's Dangard Ace).
I was thinking that the Blitzkrieg Combination Dai X was the DX version...
Anyway, Dai X ST is pretty normal size - around 5 inches or so
Dai X DX is bigger - around 8 inches I guess, and then Blitzkrieg Combo is around 12 inches or so.
Apologies for
a. getting it wrong
b. posting a post with so many 'D's and 'X's in it...
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Post by shogunkid on Oct 2, 2018 10:46:35 GMT -5
Haha yeah its not easy with some of these companies... the DX Big Dai X is really the combining "Blitzkrieg set" and the one that says DX on the box is the mid-size transforming robot. The same mid-size Takatoku Bryger and GoShogun are called "Combat Action" and not DX... I have those and its a nice set as they have a lot of diecast, good proportions and are 8" tall at the head. The transformations aren't that exciting but are still a nice gimmick. I think I can add the Takatoku Sankan Oh to the mid-size transforming list but the quality of it is lower than the previous mentioned ones.
I don't have the mid-size "combat action" Daikengo but it doesn't look appealing to me... anyone have that one that can give an objective review of it?
I remember Clover Tryder G7 as also causing confusion for me initially because the Standard box also says "DX" on it.
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Post by cybermuton on Oct 2, 2018 14:31:42 GMT -5
Don't get me started on the Tryder G7...
Even when I've got mine in front of me I get confused by the different varieties!
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Post by shogunkid on Oct 5, 2018 16:24:33 GMT -5
I also noticed the other day that Takatoku Baxinger has a "DX" medium size version... says DX on the box but has a weak transforming gimmick into one big motorcycle... I never got that one... who is going to ride a giant hog? Another robot?? Oh yeah we ARE talking about kids' toys Another example that has me confused because I don't have it is the "DX" Clover Gundam. From the photos it looks to be about the same size as the Clover Gundam that comes with the large sets and that comes apart to release the "core fighter" (this one I have). But instead of combining this DX Gundam shoots discs from its chest... Anyone here have that one? Is it smaller than the combining DX Gundam? |
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Post by shogunkid on Oct 5, 2018 16:31:12 GMT -5
Don't get me started on the Tryder G7... Even when I've got mine in front of me I get confused by the different varieties! Yeah, I recently got the larger real DX Tryder which is a nice heavy piece but isn't very tall... to add to the confusion last year I found a KO mini-standard Tryder that is about the normal Popy standard size:
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Post by cybermuton on Oct 6, 2018 10:27:51 GMT -5
Found a big ST....The Clover Zambot Combination Jr. Definitely says 'ST' on the box, and must stand about 8 or 9 inches tall when combined.
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Post by shogunkid on Oct 9, 2018 18:29:33 GMT -5
Found a big ST....The Clover Zambot Combination Jr. Definitely says 'ST' on the box, and must stand about 8 or 9 inches tall when combined. Hi, well since no one said anything... I don't want to be a know it all but if you look at the top of the post you read about one of mix-ups in our hobby... ST doesn't really mean Standard... its the Japanese label for safety standards meaning that the toy is approved/safe (I guess standards were pretty weak back then...).
But DX does mean Deluxe so many people including myself write "ST" for Standard when we ought to write STD -- but then again that's not something you want either (snicker)...
So as far as I know none of the Japanese toys have a label that means "standard", its just the "absence of DX" that tells us its possibly a standard/small/basic chogokin without lots of gimmicks, transformations, or combining.
The first DX label was the Popy Reideen and only because it transformed into the godbird mode... on the other hand GA-51 doesn't get the DX even though Gaiking does transform into the skull... so I'm not sure how they decide these things but from the DX Dangard Ace onward the DX meant bigger than the standard model... I think actually the DX GA-50 Gaiking/Daikymaru is bigger than the "standard" GA-52 Daikumaru... but the Gaiking in the package is actually smaller... So DX originally meant just extra features... as in the DX version of GA-37 Grendizer (comes with the Spazer flying saucer)....
Then we have the "mid-size" models that are bigger than standard but not as big as the DX versions... I would vote for the Combination Jr. to be a mid-size model and not a standard... but I'm not the ultimate authority on such things lol
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