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Post by gpa on Aug 20, 2010 11:14:18 GMT -5
I totally agree with you. Scales (truly reasonable scales) are very important to me. Bandai sort of tried to keep the SOC line in kind of a scale as much as possible, taking into consideration that many of them were going to be impossible to maintain in figure/toy form (Daitarn's for example). The SRC line is basically Bandai's answer to Revoltech's line, and as such, scales will probably not get much attention through the line... }D Actually, I think SHFiguarts and Robot Damashii were Bandai's answer to Revoltech and Figma. I see SRC as a line that lets Bandai step the game up a notch and get collectors from those lines in to the higher ticket SOC line. And the scaling of the figures will probably somewhat accurate. In Robot Damashii the huge robots are usually much bigger than the regular size robots, just take a look at the Gawain and Regent, for example. I'm sure when we get to Gunbuster or Big O in SRC, they'll be much larger in scale than the regular SRC- though I do expect they'll probably have "standard scale" too just to keep EVERYTHING from being gigantic.
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Post by magengar on Aug 20, 2010 12:26:27 GMT -5
I hope I didn't come off as Narrow with what I stated earlier about the differences between the older generation market and the newer generation market... if I made it appear as "sides" then I sincerely apologize. I wish I could think of a better way to describe the scenario. And I failed to realize there are fans of Both the old-school and new-school toys. Having posted my statement at 2am, my mind was Not in great shape. And seeing this webpage in a white background (browser issues) is really aggravating me. "Cute" toys have been around in Japan for decades. I don't know what to call SOCs and Aoshimas... "butch" toys or "mature toys"? I was generalizing the market between generations, but I guess I couldn't be more specific in my statement. Again, I'm not trying to visualize any barriers nor any "Us vs Them" scenarios. I'm just speaking from my own personal experience and observations in this hobby. In the long run, there's always something in this hobby for everyone of all ages and tastes. zozo-Magengar So...are fans like me, who enjoy both old school robuts and cute robots, an impossibility? Will I go to fiddle with my Keroros and Tetsujins this evening and vanish in a puff of logic instead? It's amazing to me that for as broad and huge as the toy world is, that anyone can look at it with such a narrow focus and force things into "sides". Isn't there enough room for people of all tastes? And since when is it a new trend for cute toys to come out of Japan? Or did I slip into yet another Alternate Earth? I hate it when that happens.
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Post by TheMazingerZ on Aug 20, 2010 12:55:44 GMT -5
I hear you, and believe me, I have no say so whatsoever in Bandai (at least not yet - but I keep playing the lottery every week)!
I just wish there were separate line for stuff like that instead, or just for super robots for that matter...
}D
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Post by eriku on Aug 20, 2010 13:39:01 GMT -5
I hope I didn't come off as Narrow with what I stated earlier about the differences between the older generation market and the newer generation market... if I made it appear as "sides" then I sincerely apologize. I wish I could think of a better way to describe the scenario. And I failed to realize there are fans of Both the old-school and new-school toys. Having posted my statement at 2am, my mind was Not in great shape. And seeing this webpage in a white background (browser issues) is really aggravating me. "Cute" toys have been around in Japan for decades. I don't know what to call SOCs and Aoshimas... "butch" toys or "mature toys"? I was generalizing the market between generations, but I guess I couldn't be more specific in my statement. Again, I'm not trying to visualize any barriers nor any "Us vs Them" scenarios. I'm just speaking from my own personal experience and observations in this hobby. In the long run, there's always something in this hobby for everyone of all ages and tastes. zozo-Magengar It's all good. I'll continue to pray for a SOC Keroro Robo and SRC Panda Z, I'll just do it more quietly.
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Post by TheMazingerZ on Aug 20, 2010 14:02:13 GMT -5
I will do as well, but for a regular SOC/SRC Mazinkaiser...
}D
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Post by magengar on Aug 20, 2010 14:21:45 GMT -5
I wouldn't mind an SRC or SOC Panda-Z, to be honest... ...I already have a small Panda-Z vinyl 'metallic' version, and I like how it's molded... the perfect guineapig to use when I learn how to cast molds.
Back on topic..... this SRC line is still young, so, as long as it exists I'm positive we'll see more of our favorites turn up sooner or later. I think Bandai launched this line with the Mazingers just to spark interest in the line itself (since it's new) rather than the actual robot characters. Once fans swarm in on these first releases, that will indicate the green light to produce more characters in the genre. At least, That's what I think. The Mazingers have always been a fixture in starting these Bandai diecast lines since the little gokins days. ;D
zozo-Magengar
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Post by TheMazingerZ on Aug 20, 2010 14:51:20 GMT -5
That's because Mazingers are all about "chogokin"! That's their signature strenght and durability. No other Super Robot existance revolves around the super chogokin armor. It was only fitting to have the Mazingers kick these lines off...
}D
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Post by magengar on Aug 20, 2010 14:59:10 GMT -5
That's right, I completely forgot about That. Chogokin-Z is the material of Mazinger's armor. So I assume That is where Bandai got the inspiration to create all their gokin toylines. I'll even bet Bandai had to ask Go Nagai for a license to use the "chogokin" word as a name for these lines. You seasoned collectors know more about this history than I do, so bear with me I'm still just learning about it. ;D While it's still early, we might as well start a thread documenting the "Super Robot Chogokin Timeline". That way, as more new specimens in this line get produced, we can keep up with their info and pics. Toy super robot SRC name and nomenclature, date produced, and last-not-least their version type (in case of Re-whatevers. LOL!) Similar to the SOC Timeline. What are the nomenclatures for these two first SRCs? "GX-number whatever"? or "Gxxxxxxx-something"? zozo-Magengar That's because Mazingers are all about "chogokin"! That's their signature strenght and durability. No other Super Robot existance revolves around the super chogokin armor. It was only fitting to have the Mazingers kick these lines off... }D
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Post by Chen on Aug 20, 2010 16:01:58 GMT -5
The SRC line doesn't have any kind of numerical code or anything but if you guys want to make a time line or list I would just go SRC-01 and so one with the weapons pack identified as SRC-01A or whatever.
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Post by droutmaster on Aug 20, 2010 21:46:32 GMT -5
i don't pretty much care for those kind of things, i just simply want the figure to be made well done.
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Post by quinjester on Aug 20, 2010 22:38:53 GMT -5
i don't pretty much care for those kind of things, i just simply want the figure to be made well done. Hear hear. That's the important factor for me as well . I could care less about toyline identification, serial number, UPC, SKU, whatever. If it's an awesome toy that appeals to my sensibilities and fulfills my desires for quality, poseability, and value, I'm happy
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Post by magengar on Aug 21, 2010 1:34:09 GMT -5
I third the notion about substance over fancy ID stuff. The numbers were just for quick reference. "SRC-01" and so-forth seems logical. ;D
zozo-Magengar
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Post by guve25 on Aug 21, 2010 9:47:20 GMT -5
The SRC line is not going to hold to any particular scale - but rather a generally consistent size. Meaning all figures are going to be in the 14-16cm size range, most likely, regardless of what size they're supposed to be canonically. There may be occasional instances where Bandai will try to keep sizes roughly equivalent like in the case of paired figures like Mazinger and Great Mazinger, but it wont be the overall rule. For example - Alteisen (A Real Robot, ironically), the next release, is supposed to be 22m but should be about the same size as the Mazingers, making it more in the 1:130-140 scale range. Further down the line are Daizengar and Aussenseiter, again the same toy size and from the same universe as Alteisen, but canonically they're MUCH taller than Alteisen at around 55 meters each (and so 1:340-360 scale or thereabouts). Dang! I only see pictures of the Mazinger, Great Mazinger and Alteisen , didn't know about the Daizengar and Aussenseiter (the one with the hill and future SRC spread)... I own the 1/144 Daizengar and Alteisen and the size difference is... Staggering to say the least. I guess I'll look and see about this line. I was planning to get the whole Mazinger SOC line as I love the series (Energer Z rocks!) but the SRC line compactness and clean lines really entice me.
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Post by TheMazingerZ on Aug 21, 2010 10:40:43 GMT -5
What I do when in the mood to take "action photos" of the figures is mix and match to scale. I used to display the Yamato Hero Collection Mazinger Z and Great Mazinger with Metaltech's Grendizer since they are pretty much to scale. I would display a Gashapon Mazinger Z with the SOC Ideon, because they were in perfect scale. And I also displayed the SOC GX-45 Shin Mazinger with the Aoshima Getters, since the were sort of in scale and both were designed by Ishikawa.
There's options out there, you just have to get creative sometimes...
}D
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Post by rodimus1138 on Aug 21, 2010 10:54:19 GMT -5
So far I haven't seen anything to pass on in this line maybe raideen depending on wether or not the DX SOC set would be a better buy but then again it fits with god raideen so I might buy it anyway...
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Post by Dead-Man on Aug 21, 2010 11:09:03 GMT -5
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Post by Chen on Aug 21, 2010 11:16:15 GMT -5
Yeah I think I'm gonna pass on these, they look awesome and everything but I think from the pictures I'm wishing they were 8" tall figures loaded with diecast instead of tiny figures and I know I'll be wishing for more. It's like when I found my old G1 Transformers, I could literally fit Hound or Jazz in the palm of my hand and were shocked by how tiny they were. I guess for now the SOC versions of these characters will have to do and honestly I'm actually pretty content with that idea. gamu-toys.info/goukin/gouki/sr/sr03/sr03.html
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Post by magengar on Aug 21, 2010 12:07:45 GMT -5
Alright!!! Great Maz gots his Boomerang swerve-on! ;D zozo-Magengar
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Post by TheMazingerZ on Aug 21, 2010 12:53:08 GMT -5
Oh, that's good news! I was expecting the worse when I didn't see it being used in the first review. }D
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Post by rodimus1138 on Aug 21, 2010 12:59:05 GMT -5
Oh, that's good news! I was expecting the worse when I didn't see it being used in the first review. }D So far the only thing I don't like about these sets is the missing Iron Cutters but I'm hyped to get mine! (payment sent ;D ;D ;D)
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