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Post by magengar on Nov 15, 2010 17:55:00 GMT -5
Thanks guys. <sigh>.........dreeeeeam... ...dream, dream, dreeeeeam...
zozo-Magengar
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Post by mpchi on Nov 15, 2010 19:14:32 GMT -5
I'm on a major SRW OG kick right now. I just watched Ep. 7 of the anime (epic Gespenst moment toward the end of it), and I finally finished OG2 on PS2 after years of playing through it little by little. Announce release dates for more OG SRCs Bandai, especially Cybaster... and make it transformable too! Same here. Starting back on SRWOGs on PS2 where I left off, and watching the anime shows too. Even got my hands on RyuKoOh figure (after what...10 years of hoping and waiting?!). Cybaster does look like a very possible candidate. I saw an early prototype sculpted, when they first announced the SRC line. But it wasn't in the more recent announcements, though not surprised if it pops up later. Transformable might be a tought one though. Found the old pic.
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Post by guve25 on Nov 15, 2010 20:13:03 GMT -5
Cybaster does look like a very possible candidate. I saw an early prototype sculpted, when they first announced the SRC line. But it wasn't in the more recent announcements, though not surprised if it pops up later. Transformable might be a tought one though. Found the old pic. Let's keep hoping for (if released) transformable SRC Cybaster. The thing is, Cybaster's transformation process is not that complex, it's very simple even. The head collapsed into the main body, the hand collapsed into the arm (for cheaper effect, detaches still do justice), the arm just basically forms a 90 degrees angle towards the body, the lower leg bends forward on the knee, and the tail swung forward for the head. If the Reideens can transform, transforming SRC seems a feature of the line if it's not too complex.
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Post by neogetter on Nov 16, 2010 5:00:36 GMT -5
Man all the SRX team are coming too huh!? and Cybuster!
I don't understand why these aren't coming out for the SOC line!?
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Post by mpchi on Nov 16, 2010 15:46:09 GMT -5
Probably because the SRW line are not popular enough. Its a big franchise and has its popularity. But at the same time, it also has a lot of different original mechs within the universe, that just a few very key ones are strong enough to warrant good sale, I assume. In a way, its the sum of them all that makes SRW series cool. But taking just a couple out of the group, they don't stand up on their own too well against old classics or new bots that spotlight in their own anime shows. So when we do get a SOC, its Daigengar & Aussenseiter, which pretty much are the two most badass mechs in the series, with the best stats in the game and cool transformation gimmick (though I like some other mechs more than these two). The SRX Team with combination will be a great SOC set, but it will cost a fortune! Its very complex and huge, and probably less fans would want to pay so much. As you can see, SRX is very huge, even when R1,2, & 3 are in SRC scale. Its probably bigger and taller than Ideon as is, at around 12-13 inch tall.
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Post by magengar on Nov 16, 2010 21:19:10 GMT -5
Damn... You sure that clear stand is strong enough for that SRX? Looks like you'll need a Volvo jack to keep him sustained upright, heavy as He is. ;D
zozo-Magengar
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Post by mpchi on Nov 16, 2010 22:49:30 GMT -5
The SRX does seem heavy from what I've heard, loads of solid PVC parts. But they even used a little diecast (on the inner leg connections I think). So while it would be cool to see a SRC or SOC rendition of SRX, looking at that scale, its not a very likely project for Bandai to jump on.
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Post by guve25 on Nov 16, 2010 23:22:39 GMT -5
The SRX does seem heavy from what I've heard, loads of solid PVC parts. But they even used a little diecast (on the inner leg connections I think). So while it would be cool to see a SRC or SOC rendition of SRX, looking at that scale, its not a very likely project for Bandai to jump on. If that's the Volks rendition, then it's about 1/144 scale... And seriously you don't want a 1/144 super robot... I have 1/144 Dygenguar from Kotobukiya, and as soon as I completed the built, everything just fell apart. Okay, there's the usual Kotobukiya quality hating standard, but the thigh soon gave away from the enormous weight of the upper torso. The articulating hand can't hold the big ass sword, and even if I use the fixed gripping hand, the wrist gave away and the whole upper arm assembly also gave away while holding the sword... And this is all plastic! For a brief moment when thing stays (under 10 minutes), the 1/144 Dygenguar literally took my breath away. Lucky it wasn't that long or I'll be dead. Seriously, the menacing pose combined with lighting gimmick and pre recorded action voice from the game was awesome incarnate. For me, SOC Dygenguar feels just right. Small enough to be played in the hand, and relatively big enough to say "hey I'm a super robot". I already disassembled the kit and will sell it off the Internet for 100 bucks, and I bought it for close to 400... Super robots doesn't have to be in scale, just proportionate to others will do.
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Post by magengar on Nov 17, 2010 10:21:08 GMT -5
Ouch! $400 for a kit that couldn't even keep itself together?
Man, I thought this hobby was all a bed of roses...... until This. ;D
zozo-Magengar
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Post by xiombarg on Nov 17, 2010 11:35:57 GMT -5
I would like to think that SRX bots will combine. I think it's unlikely, but man that would be so freakin cool if they did. Gaogaigar is cool, but I am so hoping that GGGG gets made into a SOC and not just an SRC.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2010 12:55:15 GMT -5
I would like to think that SRX bots will combine. I think it's unlikely, but man that would be so freakin cool if they did. Gaogaigar is cool, but I am so hoping that GGGG gets made into a SOC and not just an SRC. And gaofighgar too please! ;D
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Post by magengar on Nov 17, 2010 13:28:21 GMT -5
If GGGG could be an SOC... do you realize how many robots it takes to form GGGG? Bandai would probably have to make all the Gao Machines and sub-gao bots as SRCs in such a scale that would allow them all to form GGGG! ;D Imagine That! Crossing two toylines to form one robot toy figure? The challenge would then be to purchase all the gao-machines and sub-gao bots as separate accessories, and then the GGGG mainframe SOC. That would complete a whoppin huge set for that one character. zozo-Magengar
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Post by rodimus1138 on Nov 17, 2010 14:01:31 GMT -5
If GGGG could be an SOC... do you realize how many robots it takes to form GGGG? Bandai would probably have to make all the Gao Machines and sub-gao bots as SRCs in such a scale that would allow them all to form GGGG! ;D Imagine That! Crossing two toylines to form one robot toy figure? The challenge would then be to purchase all the gao-machines and sub-gao bots as separate accessories, and then the GGGG mainframe SOC. That would complete a whoppin huge set for that one character. zozo-Magengar I don't think it'd be THAT hard
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Post by quinjester on Nov 17, 2010 14:23:57 GMT -5
If GGGG could be an SOC... do you realize how many robots it takes to form GGGG? Bandai would probably have to make all the Gao Machines and sub-gao bots as SRCs in such a scale that would allow them all to form GGGG! ;D Imagine That! Crossing two toylines to form one robot toy figure? The challenge would then be to purchase all the gao-machines and sub-gao bots as separate accessories, and then the GGGG mainframe SOC. That would complete a whoppin huge set for that one character. zozo-Magengar I'm not sure that YOU realize how many robots it takes to form Genesic GaoGaiGar . .. considering that complete transformable versions of both GaoGaiGar and genesic GaoGaiGar have already been made, it's not much of a stretch. The combination is less complex than, say, Ideon or even Godmars.
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Post by mpchi on Nov 17, 2010 14:34:16 GMT -5
If it is a SOC, sure, Bandai can pull it off. But for SRC, its quite hard in that smaller size. Even as big as the CM's has a pretty fiddly combined GGGG. Given their combined connections are a bit flawed, but mostly are on the shoulders and the backpack wings. The torso and legs are sturdy enough. With only 2/3 of that size, a SRC can be even more fiddly, even if it has improved structure design. And from the look of the SRC prototype, the GGG is not a combiner, nor is Volfogg or the other gang. So pretty sure the SRC currently is just going for diecast poseable figures, and leaving most of the transfoming or combining gimmick out.
There is always SOC for that sort of stuff.
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Post by TheMazingerZ on Nov 17, 2010 15:55:47 GMT -5
I'm no expert in sales, but I figure that the more intricate and complex the figure, the more money it will cost. SOCs should be complex... and pricey. SRCs should be real basic action figures, therefore cheaper.
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Post by nikodiablo on Nov 17, 2010 21:35:08 GMT -5
I'm on a major SRW OG kick right now. I just watched Ep. 7 of the anime (epic Gespenst moment toward the end of it), and I finally finished OG2 on PS2 after years of playing through it little by little. Announce release dates for more OG SRCs Bandai, especially Cybaster... and make it transformable too! I thought I was the only one ;D. I started re-watching Divine Wars and paid more attention to it after The Inspectors came out. That makes me think whether enemy units - particularly DC Armored Modules like the Guarlion or the Siegerlion will make appearance in the SRC line. Also hope that the Huckebeins will be produced as well. I know that a lot of fans thinks that the Hucks are just some Gundam ripoffs, but they're still quite special to me. Cybuster is a very, very good and promising follow-up, but does anyone know what is the next SRW figure to be released after Alt? EDIT: that reminds me, I still need to finish OG Gaiden...
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Post by magengar on Nov 17, 2010 22:11:12 GMT -5
Quin, you're right- damn... EIGHT gao machines to form that bad boy! I really thought it would be quite complex, I've only seen the "GGG Final" series just a few times a couple years ago. And I've never seen the Ideon nor the Godmars series. There are many modern mecha series I really haven't seen since the summer of 1984; and that was Voltron re-runs. LOL! Back to Modern Mecha Anime 101 for me. ;D zozo-Magengar
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Post by magengar on Nov 17, 2010 22:23:23 GMT -5
I guess so. But then, I also believed that the complexity of the character affected the cost of manufacturing its toy... ...as in, transformation features and gimmicks. It's cheaper to have the parts Swap than literally "morph" into another machine. When Bandai manufactures a toy robot character that can Combine into different modes, they design the functionality of the toy for its current state of Being at the time You, the person playing with the toy, have already transformed it... We're paying for the toy to see it in all its different transformEDmodes-- we're not gonna see it go through all that "magic energy morphing in the atmosphere process"... ;D Example: Raideen in its humanoid robot form... later on I transform it into Godbird mode so I can display it in Godbird mode. It's not like I can toss the toy up inthe air and watch it go through its transformation spiel... ...jeez, That would scare my roommate's cats right outta hell! ;D I paid for a toy I can physically swap its parts to see it in all its different modes; I didn't pay for the transformation hocus-pocus magic. LOL The SRC's are smaller in scale, but they would look really good if they can closely mimmick the same features their SOC counterparts can do... it would just be on a smaller scale. That would be fun to play with. Perhaps a feature or two might get shaved off, but the SRC itself would still be Badass. zozo-Magengar I'm no expert in sales, but I figure that the more intricate and complex the figure, the more money it will cost. SOCs should be complex... and pricey. SRCs should be real basic action figures, therefore cheaper. }D
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Post by mpchi on Nov 17, 2010 22:35:49 GMT -5
... Also hope that the Huckebeins will be produced as well. I know that a lot of fans thinks that the Hucks are just some Gundam ripoffs, but they're still quite special to me. 'Special' is an understatement. Just look at this bad boy... A UC Gundam fan I am, but very few Gundam designs can touch this Huckebein MKIII Boxer in my book. Though I wonder when I am gonna have the courage to build this model kit. Or better yet...a SRC DX release? Hahaha. Unfortunately, I've heard that the similarity of Huckebeins & Gundams did got Banpresto involved in some lawsuit, so its kind of a taboo to release toys of any Huckebein designs nowadays, if those news were accurate. And I don't remember seeing them appear in anime form either (I could be wrong though as I have not watched all Divine Wars episodes). Too bad.
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