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Post by prostockjohn on Nov 10, 2010 13:58:01 GMT -5
I am generally familiar with the 4-5 metal robots and popinica associated with D17. I was wondering if we expand that out, what are the 10-12 most collectable items associated with this robot?
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Post by Erik Sjoen on Nov 10, 2010 20:11:52 GMT -5
Well, the jumbo machinder first of all, then you're talking about the Bandai missile firing vinyl, the Popy plaDX and the Popy mini sofubi. Outside of that, you've got model kits maybe?
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Post by Erik Sjoen on Nov 10, 2010 20:13:38 GMT -5
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Post by godaikincolector74 on Nov 10, 2010 22:53:02 GMT -5
I have a couple questions about this guy. I found this below on you tube and no English but the video itself is very educational to what all this robot's features are in the small and deluxe version.... Now then, I like the larger one which has the electronic feature, and the more detailed smaller vehicles. I imagine Dx made both sizes, what about the Bandai American Godaikin version, did they make in both sizes, with the electronic features as well?  Seems like he is a bit older, seems like I saw one on ebay from Godaikin 1982. The guy had buy it now up close to 400, and starting bid 95 bucks, complete, and yet no one bid. Of course the guys feedback was horrible one guy said in negative...."Hope the 50 bucks you stole from me was worth it.", Needless to say why I did not bid that feedback and others, but seems like I have seen others in Japan get no attention, like he is less appreciated or under the radar than some of the other guys. Is this an accurate assumption? Either way, I like him, his transformation is simple, but the fact that he turns into like a flying port/aircraft carrier is just a cool feature to me, and I like that he comes with the different types of small vehicles and has that cool belly missile system, which you can mount on front of carrier.... |
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Post by Erik Sjoen on Nov 10, 2010 23:18:56 GMT -5
"Needless to say why I did not bid that feedback and others, but seems like I have seen others in Japan get no attention, like he is less appreciated or under the radar than some of the other guys."
Where in Japan have you seen this? IMO D17 is no more or less popular than most of the other Tokusatsu robots. The "DX" electronic version you mention is maybe 10yrs old by Bandai. There was only one size of D17 chogokin made and subsequently repackaged in Godaikin packaging not including the blister carded mini Godaikin...
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Post by godaikincolector74 on Nov 10, 2010 23:37:29 GMT -5
Yeah my mistake, after doing search I saw him going in Japan (the D17 Chogokin from the 70's), going anywhere from 450 to 650, and that is not cheap IMO, or under appreciated, lol.... This one below however is a "Soul of Chogokin" correct, smaller re-issue version? cgi.ebay.com/Soul-Chogokin-GD-17-Daitetsujin-Bandai-Complete-MIB-/120645553288?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c17090c88#ht_662wt_932This may seem like a dumb question, but I think I am understanding something that is just a Chogokin, being vintage and from the 70's or early 80's, and the "Soul of Chogokin", is the re-issues, which could be anywhere from like 13 years old to brand new, when Popy was re-absorbed by Bandai in 1997, is this correct? Hence the "Soul of" taking flight there after.... |
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Post by godaikincolector74 on Nov 10, 2010 23:51:40 GMT -5
Like for example, I really like that gold Reideen which goes for round 100 dollars on ebay from 1997. I am assuming this is one of the first Soul of Chogokins? |
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Post by KingboyD on Nov 11, 2010 9:48:03 GMT -5
The Soul of Chogokin are newer releases that are tributes to the vintage Chogokin toys. They are totally new designs. The GD-17 was not actually released under the Soul of Chogokin line, although it was released under the same timeline. It is another Bandai release. Be warned that the vast majority of these do not have proper functioning electronic mechanisms. If you get it for a display piece, then it is fine and has a great shelf presence. However, if you are hoping to get a fully working one, you might have to purchase several and hope to get lucky. You can do a search here and find some more on this. In terms of Gold Reideens, there are two. One is a Soul of Chogokin release, but there is a smaller one done in the style of the vintage toy that was released several years ago (maybe over 10 now). I think that this one just came in a small black box with the gold outline of the toy (see here: robotjapan.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=GenGallery&action=display&thread=14556&page=2 ). If I'm not mistaken, this was issued as part of a special release for a Japanese convention. If I recall correctly, its very slightly taller than the vintage one. Now that I think about it, there was also a plastic set (Miracle?) in gold that included many accessories in a flat window box. IMO, 450 and up sounds very high for the vintage one. |
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Post by KingboyD on Nov 11, 2010 9:52:06 GMT -5
Well, the jumbo machinder first of all, then you're talking about the Bandai missile firing vinyl, the Popy plaDX and the Popy mini sofubi. Outside of that, you've got model kits maybe? Erik is the master. There's also a much more common KO of the Jumbo. And yes, there are plenty of model kits with awesome box art. I think I did a thread here or on TBDX with these posted. (I've got to get these back up on the website - I used to have them on the old website but they were not carried over to the new one yet). They are also releasing a very expensive 60 cm one in vinyl soon. See here: robotjapan.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=PopyJumbos&action=display&thread=16444BTW, I don't recall what the MFV looks like. Do you have this, Erik? Care to post a pic? |
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Post by Erik Sjoen on Nov 11, 2010 10:04:16 GMT -5
Myles, you're to kind. Just to clarify, the gold Reideen you mentioned to be vintage was actually done in the GA-09R sculpt not the original, and if memory serves I think you're right about being a limited release. I think it might have been released as a part of some Bandai event which pre dates the Tamashii Nation.
As to the D17 MFV, mine as you can imagine is under 5 feet of sh*t packed in one of the cases boxed. Luckily I do think I have a loose one as well. It's done in the same vain as the Dangard and Voltes, which ended the line. Not the best representations......
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Post by prostockjohn on Nov 11, 2010 13:02:12 GMT -5
So there is the original D17 from 1977 or so, a re-issue in 1984, and then a tribute that is automatic that was made in 1999? Do I have that right? Re-discovering these toys after 30 years in boxes from my mom is what got me all nuts about wanting more of them....  |
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Post by prostockjohn on Nov 11, 2010 13:06:06 GMT -5
Erik, thanks for that .jp link. I'm personally a low level collector, I'm going to be fine with 20-30 pieces so am avoiding getting a Japan based buyer, but.... well.... if someone else has one of those accounts and will re-ship to me... from FL? lol. Let me know. I'm not 100% sure what I can't get here in the states yet.
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Post by godaikincolector74 on Nov 11, 2010 15:05:35 GMT -5
You guys really know your stuff, great info. Especially thanks to know the old larger electronics ones rarely work....
I have found some great deals on the larger Chogokin re-issue from 1999, and that is the one I think I will shoot for. I am very picky, prefer working, 100% complete, nice box if possible, so I think a brand new ten year old one is not a bad idea, seeing as how I saw one for 110 total with shipping, and make offer option. And I know of another with 35 shipping starting dollar bid, and no bids out of country, and it seems like most attempt to buy intercontinental when possible anyway. I am sure some of you guys that have been collecting for years have had to get some rare special pieces out of country, but with possible extra custom charges and high shipping, just seems like no brainer for me to buy great piece from say neighboring South Carolina, than Taiwan for example....
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Post by godaikincolector74 on Nov 11, 2010 15:13:15 GMT -5
Funny, when I see great Godaikins for sale in USA, they always seem to be in NY, Umass country, Cali, Chicago, or Florida. Like my Daidenjin was bought at Epcot center in 1984 for 15 bucks, one owner before me for the last 26 years. Bigger city's, bigger markets for such foreign items back in the day perhaps....
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Post by KingboyD on Nov 11, 2010 16:18:02 GMT -5
You guys really know your stuff, great info. Especially thanks to know the old larger electronics ones rarely work.... I have found some great deals on the larger Chogokin re-issue from 1999, and that is the one I think I will shoot for. I am very picky, prefer working, 100% complete, nice box if possible, so I think a brand new ten year old one is not a bad idea I think there is a little confusion here. There was only one electronic one, and that is the GD- toy that is fairly new. This new toy had QA/QC issues right out of the box. In terms of pricing, I always STRONGLY recommend that you don't rush into anything. Take your time - collecting is a marathon, not a dash. If you are unfamiliar with a toy and its value, watch the auctions for it for a while before taking the actual plunge (or ask others for pricing help). However, if you are really hot for it, then just know what you are willing to pay and be happy with your purchase. However, I would hate to see someone ripped off because of enthusiasm. |
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Post by prostockjohn on Nov 11, 2010 17:07:47 GMT -5
There was loose original 70's FS a little while ago, didn't sell at $250 or $225.. That guy was in Southern IL I think. I could get interested in something like that but the pics were not sufficient to get me to talk to the guy.
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Post by prostockjohn on Nov 11, 2010 17:09:10 GMT -5
KingboyD has been giving me great advice, I've been watching the auctions long enough to have a feel for things. In the beginning I bought stuff that was too junky, so some of those orphans might get resold or parted out.
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Post by Erik Sjoen on Nov 11, 2010 21:37:35 GMT -5
I've seen the GD electronic ones in shops in Japan for like $30. In Osaka they had a sh*tLOAD of them at Kiddytoy (kind of like a Yodobashi for toys) and I think they were the same like 3500Y all unopened.
Myles, great advice re: the marathon. True.
The 1984 rissues are virtually the same. I've a feeling that they were repackaged old warehouse stock. It wouldn't surprise me. In the late 90s when I was working at KimonoMyHouse, Yuki bought a pallet full of GB-24 Tetsujin 28s that were in a warehouse fire. The toys were/are mint, just the boxes were soiled. We sold them in styro with a b&w xerox of the front of the box taped on the back. I still see these being sold from time to time. They were like $40?...... I still have about 4 or 5 of those guys. Anyhoo...
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Post by Erik Sjoen on Nov 11, 2010 21:39:03 GMT -5
Oh yeah, my point was, if Yuki got those GB-24s made in 81 in the late 90s then it would be TOTALLY possible that the Etarnal Heros and other Popy "reissues" were just old stock. Nuff said.
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Post by Erik Sjoen on Nov 11, 2010 21:47:23 GMT -5
Oh yeah, and Myles, per your request:  I took it with my signature photography skills that you know and love so well... Only for your brother. e |
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