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Post by luclin999 on Oct 5, 2012 5:33:23 GMT -5
I have been experimenting on a few "junk" jumbos that I bought recently and I have to admit that trying to match the original paint color/sheen on some of these is pretty tricky.
For example, the metallic blue-green color for Raideen's head is a real stumper. I have tried over a dozen pain combinations and can't get quite the exact color and pearly sheen that matches the original.
I've gotten very close however either the color ends up a hair off or the sheen is too dull which means that any spots that are touched up tend to stand out if you look at the head from a certain angle of lighting.
At this point I am debating whether it would just be less trouble to wash the original paint off altogether and just repaint a head from the ground up with the closest color matches possible rather than try to come up with a formula that blends in cleanly with the 35 year old paint.
Has anyone here ever managed to match the original Raideen paint?
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Post by willohio on Oct 5, 2012 6:24:42 GMT -5
Kitsir may have. He does a lot of touch up work.
Check his restore threads.
Myself, no, same as you very close. I use Acetone to strip paint from heads.
And just repaint with acrylics. Then use a satin clear coat for protection and add
that semi-shiny look similar to original.
Will
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Post by 1oldrobot on Oct 5, 2012 9:43:57 GMT -5
hi, you can get the exact colors you need off the shelf at michaels.
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Post by eyeone on Oct 6, 2012 3:59:23 GMT -5
i have a lot of spray paint at my studio. from time to time, when i need to match a color for one of my jumbos, i experiment using the cans i have around. i've gotten really good matches from the european spray paint brand, particularly montana's gold line since it is acrylic based. they also have transparent tints that are really good for slightly darkening or lightening an existing color. for the random metallic colors on the jumbos, i use silver spraypaint as a base and hit it with a candy spray overcoat of the color i'm trying to match. i haven't done a raydeen (even though ol' bowfist could use some touching up) but was able to restore a grendizer head and that thing has weird metallic blue, the horns are a tough metallic to match. rustoleum makes good metallics, but the pressure in the can makes controlling the spray tricky. stripping the entire paint job and repainting might be the best way to go if you want the colors to not be perceived as different. just did the eyes on a mach baron and used silver with a candy color coat and nailed the match.
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Post by luclin999 on Oct 6, 2012 4:30:28 GMT -5
Well, I spent another couple of hours experimenting and I ~think~ that I have mixed up a decent match from a combination of three different color paints that so far looks like a match in terms of color, depth and pearly sheen to the original paint on the toy.
I'll know for certain in another day or two as I see if the test patch still blends in after the paint has a chance to completely dry.
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Post by zman on Oct 29, 2012 10:33:04 GMT -5
Is there any touch up paint pen that is "close enough" or "passable" for Raydeen's blue head color? This maybe?  Or this?  Reference from CDX:  |
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Post by willohio on Oct 29, 2012 11:17:18 GMT -5
An idea instead of matching exactly... would be to use some paint remover(mineral spirits/acetone) and carefully remove all the blue, and repaint that entirely. That way it's uniform and if the pain is close, the only way you'd be able to tell it's a repaint is to compare it to another Raydeen.
~Will
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Post by luclin999 on Oct 29, 2012 13:02:50 GMT -5
I definitely would not use a marker. The color would never match the metalic sheen of the original paint and you never know how the chemicals in the marker ink might react with the rest of the toy over time. When I had to repaint Raideen I finally ended up making my own mix from paints I bought at Michaels. This is what the head looked like when I received it..  This is it now..  I airbrushed my custom metallic pearl blue-green mix onto the larger side sections straight over the existing paint. For reference, the blue-green section at the peak of the head is still the untouched original paint. My mix uses Pearl Blue, Metallic Emerald Green and Royal Blue however I will admit that it took me a couple of hours tinkering with the ratios to get the color to where I was happy with it. |
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Post by 1oldrobot on Oct 29, 2012 15:23:02 GMT -5
ill spill my guts here. i used to spray over silver to get this kind of finish, but i like things to be easy. if you go to michaels, the 2oz bottles of acrylic paints have your answer. deco-art makes a product called dazzling metallics. 2 bucks each. ten bucks later you could mix any jumbo metallic color. i repainted my goldorak face mask recently with it and did a raydeen head with exact matches. theres no reason for anyone to send off their jumbo heads for 100 dollar paint jobs. here ya go.
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Post by lexcars2007 on Oct 29, 2012 18:15:24 GMT -5
Testor makes a LT. Metallic blue, that is dam near perfect, to Raydeen and Goldorak....you should add a hardener, so it will not get tacky, like testor does...and to get a flat/ semi gloss finish, just raise your air preasure on the airbrush, to add higher gloss...lower air, heavier coats.....it's simple...I have pix on a thread here of my Goldorak touch up, and the blue is a perfect match, for even just blending....
I agree with 1old robot, about paying 100.00 for a jumbo retouch..but I do them for 1/2 that...LOL... but advise is always free !!!!
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Post by 1oldrobot on Oct 29, 2012 18:57:51 GMT -5
testors has a really great color palette. no hardener really needed on heads as they are usually vinyl and paint likes it, unless im missing something. also, acrylic paint is basically plastic, so when it dries it is flexible and the dry time is about 5 minutes. i was feeling especially lazy one day and painted it by brush. used some 200 grit sand paper with almost no effort and it looks like a uniform spray finish. if posting pics here was a little easier id show the results.
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Post by willohio on Oct 29, 2012 20:14:06 GMT -5
I've never tried the testers. Thanks for the info!
Is there a good match for the burnt orange color around the top spikes found on Grandizer's head?
Will
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Post by 1oldrobot on Oct 29, 2012 20:23:09 GMT -5
great job on the raydeen head, by the way. duh! im a total retard. i just read over your post and saw that we are using the same paint. sorry about writing a novel on your post.
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Post by zman on Oct 30, 2012 10:27:36 GMT -5
Testor makes a LT. Metallic blue, that is dam near perfect, to Raydeen and Goldorak Sweet  I think that was actually my 2nd example. |
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Post by lexcars2007 on Oct 30, 2012 13:48:18 GMT -5
As afar as posting pix...the easiest way was to send the pix to image shack, then post to here....I could never figure out how to do a full page like some guys do here  |
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Post by zman on Oct 30, 2012 14:45:24 GMT -5
Here's one easy way..... 1. Go to imgur.com/2. Click "Computer" under upload images 3. Select photo to upload 4. Click "Start Upload" 5. On the right hand side of your uploaded photo, copy "Linked BBCode (message boards)" and paste here. 6. Enjoy! Note: It is good to resize your photos before you upload or you can resize them thru imgur by choosing "edit". 640x480 is usually good for forums. |
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Post by 1oldrobot on Oct 30, 2012 19:33:01 GMT -5
hmmm. double posting pix doesnt agree with my practically impractical tendencies (laziness). wont do it. if a picture is worth a thousand words, ill have to torment readers with the thousand words.
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Post by lexcars2007 on Oct 30, 2012 21:22:53 GMT -5
LOL I like your thinking, oldrobot !!! Now for the paint...Here is the Goldorak head I did, now the only blue I touched up, was the upper lip, which is the same color as Raydeen....Well tell me if I'm off, or wrong ?    |
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