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Post by godaiking on Apr 17, 2013 22:55:38 GMT -5
Another long winded insight from me (hope this makes sense).  So, I've been collecting (off and on) gokin toys since 98. Just like any "vets" of the hobby, I've landed huge scores at very nice prices.The most memorable being the Godaikin collection score of 1998 off the newsgroups (I think someone here once mentioned he was a part of that too) and another around 2006 or 07. Although I didn't make very much money at the time, I somehow managed a very nice collection of Godaikins, Vintage chogokins, etc. But around the ,mid 2000s, as more of the newer SOC toys were released, I found myself drawn to them because of their "newness" and collection (although I did keep a few "grail" pieces) off on Ebay and forums for sale. This was around from 2005 to about 2011 (it was a slow process). So around late 2011, I've noticed that, slowly, I've been going to BACK to vintage. As of now, I only have a few SOC pieces left (around 8 I think?) and I plan on going full out on just collecting vintage gokins/japanese toys. I may keep a few SOCs (I really like Zambot and Ideon so I'll probably keep those), but most all of its going to Evil bay or the for sale forums here. Has anyone here been in a similar situation? |
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Post by Mr. Ginrai on Apr 18, 2013 0:11:16 GMT -5
I completely get what you are saying. If i am reading you right, i think what you are really saying is its tough to not get drawn into other things and lose focus. Don't feel bad. Happens to a lot of us.
I have been vintage from day 1 (as a child when vintage was new). I am in the process now of getting rid of most of my modern toys and also picking up a few pieces for which i actually orefer the modern example over the vintage (extremely rare). I just cant bring myself to plop down $10 or $1000 on a modern toy, but i will absolutely do it on vintage. And its not the money issue either or that i expect my vintage to go up in price (i dont).
So although I have dabbled in new toys and TF here and there, I consistently find myself not only sticking with vintage, but now also going after even older toys that came well before my time that are pretty much unknown to me. I have absolutely learned on my still ongoing collecting journey to respect the roots from which many of our childhood favorites came from, and that is important to me because there are many people out there who are completely blind/ignorant to that fact. Not saying that anyone has to collect that stuff, but don't act like it didn't happen either, because then you wouldn't be playing with many of the pieces in your collection.
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Post by godaiking on Apr 18, 2013 0:44:56 GMT -5
I completely get what you are saying. If i am reading you right, i think what you are really saying is its tough to not get drawn into other things and lose focus. Don't feel bad. Happens to a lot of us. I have been vintage from day 1 (as a child when vintage was new). I am in the process now of getting rid of most of my modern toys and also picking up a few pieces for which i actually orefer the modern example over the vintage (extremely rare). I just cant bring myself to plop down $10 or $1000 on a modern toy, but i will absolutely do it on vintage. And its not the money issue either or that i expect my vintage to go up in price (i dont). So although I have dabbled in new toys and TF here and there, I consistently find myself not only sticking with vintage, but now also going after even older toys that came well before my time that are pretty much unknown to me. I have absolutely learned on my still ongoing collecting journey to respect the roots from which many of our childhood favorites came from, and that is important to me because there are many people out there who are completely blind/ignorant to that fact. Not saying that anyone has to collect that stuff, but don't act like it didn't happen either, because then you wouldn't be playing with many of the pieces in your collection. Good to know I didn't come off as too nutty with that post. Yeah, I feel the same way you do on the spending of the big $ on vintage over modern. ALot of these toys were pieces I used to drool over when I was a kid and now, some 30 years later, i can sort of afford them....again.  When it comes to modern pieces over vintage, I really like the daitarn, Ideon (can't stand the Tomy DX), Daltanious, the newer Combattler, The Mazingers, Zambot, Dancougar, etc. But my rekindled interest in nothing but vintage will probably have me sell them off. It really feels like 1998 again with my interest in vintage....it's pretty fun! |
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Post by xtrlowz75 on Apr 18, 2013 1:55:29 GMT -5
Vintage Godaikins all the way. But I have to admit I will fill the gaps in my Godaikin collection of the high priced ones with SOC versions namely Tetsujin-28 with a GX-44, Voltes-V with a GX-31, and Combattra with a GX-50. Now Daimos I will fill the void with a GX-43 for now, but am on the hunt for a vintage one after letting the Godaikin Daimos I had go (self ass kick).
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Post by mecha-mania on Apr 18, 2013 3:09:44 GMT -5
I guess i'm the opposite to most of you guys ;D I started off with modern bots, GFFs and SOCs (very late starter from GX-40 Godmars, although i made sure i gave the original GX-04S top priority and bought it first), then turned my attention later on to vintage brands such as Godaikin, Takatoku, Clover and Popy. But i guess i had my fill with them now, interest and focus somewhat died down and i have since switch my attention back to modern bots. Although i am still known to pick up an odd vintage specimen every now and then when something catches my eye. But from a bigger picture perspective, i could still be at a transitional stage as i am still relatively new to toy collecting, and my habits could once again change  |
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Post by cupnoodles on Apr 18, 2013 6:04:24 GMT -5
I like the modern stuff. And not all of the modern stuff, just the SOC line and bits and pieces of transformers. I am not interested in SRC. I like some of the kayaba small models as well.
I originally quit collecting in 1994 (ironically driven out of the hobby by Ed Sanford) and those toys were excellent and lots of fun so I understand liking them.
In case you are wondering, the only things I kept were my Kamen Rider Belts (and machine dolphin I have no idea why).
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Post by jeffsung66 on Apr 18, 2013 10:12:05 GMT -5
I don't think you can compare the two. With the modern stuff, you are "buying" robots. The key (if you are not filthy rich) is budgeting. With vintage, you are "collecting". The key, in addition to money, is patience. You might have to go 5, even 10 years before getting a chance to pick a dream piece. It's the unknown that keeps me addicted to vintage.
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Post by bt1 on Apr 18, 2013 11:21:00 GMT -5
Well said Jeff! For me, the 'hunt' is half the fun. Clicking the next page, never knowing what goodies will show up. That's as good for me as actually getting and opeing up the packages.
Asside from a couple pieces I bought early on, I've stuck with vintage. To me, the vintage toys just have a charm to them that I don't get a feeling for from modern renditions.
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Post by cybermuton on Apr 18, 2013 12:31:25 GMT -5
Agreed...hunting for a sample of something that was not globally available in the first place, then had to survive years of play, storage/neglect, and then discovery makes vintage collecting much more rewarding. Newer stuff is admirable in technology and conception, but the almost universal availability and the fact that it's 'collected' from day one means survival and discovery rates are close to 100%. Hunting for new stuff is like shooting fish in a barrel...
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Post by cupnoodles on Apr 18, 2013 15:00:38 GMT -5
Anyone have complete series of Force Five taped off the broadcast air in 1983 or whatever it was? I have been looking for those forever.
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Post by arkboy on Apr 18, 2013 21:18:50 GMT -5
I fully agree, the thrill is in the hunt for these vintage bots, it never ceases to amaze me when I received a mib vintage bot. I mean these were made like 30 over years ago and most still held up until now. I wonder how will the modern gokins fare in 20 to 30 years from now. That being said, I collect both modern and vintage. and I try to attain only one version of each, I bought a GX-43 Daimos 1st but later sold it when I got a Godaikin Daimos. I've GX-36 Ideon and I think it's the best presentation of Ideon ever so I'm not looking to acquire the Tomy version. I don't think modern have an edge over vintage or vice versa, and we should not compare them, just appreciate them for what they are as they represent a different era of culture, believe and manufacturing.
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Post by Mr. Ginrai on Apr 18, 2013 22:15:46 GMT -5
As a few people have mentioned, I will chime back in and agree that there are a handful of vintage bots that are just so bad we have to make the exception and give the modern one the top spot. Not because its modern, but because it is just good, looks correct, etc. Ideon is a perfect example.
And yes. The hunt is the drug we can't get off of. Not the toys themselves, it may be hard to let them go but it's doable. It's the hunt that, just when you thought you were out, pulled you right back in!
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Post by demonseed on May 6, 2013 18:37:15 GMT -5
My issue is I like having the vintige AND modern version of a bot.
With that said, if I had to pick one I'd go vintige.
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Post by xtrlowz75 on May 7, 2013 2:25:31 GMT -5
Haha I like the vintage hunt too, but like to remain focused. I pick up stuff here and there all the time, but do turn it for one thing, completing my Godaikin collection. Of course I have to admit that focus is shifting just a bit as I can't afford the over expensive Godaikins so I am filling their slots with modern SOCs. But it is still only to get 1 of each of the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd series of Godaikins. A few spots I will fill with SOCs, but the majority will be the original real deal vintage Godaikins.
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Post by mecha-mania on May 7, 2013 5:03:48 GMT -5
Its hard to be overly aggressive in procuring vintage pieces as they can cost a small fortune  mixing them with SOCs is definitly more affordable for me. |
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Post by drwily008 on May 16, 2013 22:11:36 GMT -5
I find it a blast to look for both for good deals. I will hardly ever pay full price for a bot. With that said, I can find more vintage robots that go under the wire.
The people selling SOC's and Revoltech have $XX.XX into their item and hardly ever discount them.
I am a bargain hunter and I really like the look of vintage so that has always been my focus.
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Post by KingboyD on May 17, 2013 7:42:45 GMT -5
I find it a blast to look for both for good deals. I will hardly ever pay full price for a bot. With that said, I can find more vintage robots that go under the wire. The people selling SOC's and Revoltech have $XX.XX into their item and hardly ever discount them. My sentiments exactly! I always lamented that the asking prices for secondhand modern toys are always so high. If people are buying at that price, then I guess it is justified. But I see people offering discounts on vintage items all the time. So that sort of drives me too. But all that being said, I still dabble in both, just mostly vintage. |
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Post by mecha-mania on May 17, 2013 8:09:44 GMT -5
You guys are lucky! Its usually very difficult to get a bargain on vintages from where i come from, local sellers normally set delusional prices on their vintage stuff, i turn to ebay to get my stuff.
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