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Post by supergetterv on May 8, 2013 22:47:13 GMT -5
I see this phrases a lot and hell, I used it my self. I just like to know what are the reasons some of you have when you use the phrase "I am on the fence". Off the top of my head, I can come of with three reasons to be on the fence on a specific item.
1, the price. Unless you earn money with ease, everyone want to get good value, meaning the most bang out of your buck. It is the uncertainty of an item that puts me in this position where I question, is the piece worth the price? In this case, I am thinking "So I am on the fence because I don't know if it is worth it and seems too overpriced".
2, how is it worth the price paid? Most of the time when I am on the fence about a specific item, I question the build quality and quality control i.e. the paint apps, durability, articulation and overall sculpt. If all good, then I am no longer on the fence, but if not all good I remain back on the fence unless convince otherwise.
And finally, lack of knowledge and hype. In this hobby, one way or another, you will buy into some type of hype. Whether it is the magazine or the Internet now with product advertisement or just the forum boards members word to mouth, sometimes the collecting community is all raving about a specific product and it suck you in, even though you little knowledge about the specific toy figure or story. So by not following the trend, I am on the fence.
So there are my example or reasons that I can come up with. So what are your reasons for being on the fence?
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Post by TheMazingerZ on May 8, 2013 22:52:56 GMT -5
Liking the character, but maybe not enough to spend much money on it.  }D |
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Post by Mr. Ginrai on May 8, 2013 23:54:47 GMT -5
I like the reasons you stated. The money one is especially obvious, because well some people are cheap, some people are on a budget, and some are just indecisive (this sentence is meant to be random opinion and not directed at anyone).
Quality and general reception overall is a big factor, kind of like how people anticipate sci-fi or comic movies nowadays, the same criticisms are applied to toys.
From what I have seen friends do, "On the fence" is more along the lines of:
A toy is coming out. It doesn't matter if it is fabulous or crap, expensive or cheap. You can't tell if you want it, even from reviews of people who got a prototype off eBay, or got it for a review from a vendor. Even if you really don't want it, your collection at the time may (or may not) need it, and you don't know if you should just suck it up and buy.
Two things could happen:
1) the toy tanks big time and you overpay greatly - if you bought early you're screwed, if you have to buy it late you make out great!
2) the toy is super hot and flys off the shleves/out of the vendors and even disappears off of ebay except for a few because the aftermarket price has skyrocketed - if you bought early you made out well, if you have to buy it late you're screwed.
This creates a moral dilemma (more so than any underlying price issue because the same uncertainty could happen with a toy that is $10 retail msrp or $1000 msrp. So you go in circles, call or text your buddies, post up on the boards until someone or some reason cracks you and you make the decision to buy...or not.
We've all been there at one point or another LoL. The less times you have to say "I'm on the fence", you know you are becoming a more seasoned/focused collector.
This was a good topic, I'm interested to see what everyone else says.
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Post by magengar on May 9, 2013 0:18:01 GMT -5
I'm on the fence about which specimen(s) I'd like to get first,
and then I have to worry about my budget after I've taken care
of priorities outside of this hobby.
For example: I want the DX Mazinger, therefore I must put off
"malling" around at whatever cool robot toy happens on the
scene at the current moment, as in Impulse Buying.
I've also stopped buying fillers on impulse, because they often
turn out to be other robots that are not among my top
favorites, and afterwards I realize I've been distracted from
my main goal to collect as many Mazinger merchs as I can find.
So, with all that in mind, if I don't keep my horse-blinders on,
I'll never achieve my goals and I'll always be schtuck
"on the fence".
zozo-mag
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2013 0:45:41 GMT -5
How about one of the biggest reasons to be on the fence in our Hobby:
WHAT IF A BETTER VERSION WILL BE COMING OUT??? SHOULD I WAIT? WHAT IF I DO AND A BETTER VERSION NEVER COMES??
LOL...thats the way I feel about Big-O, I dont think there is a gokin out yet that TRULY does it justice. Do I buy the Max Gokin, or do I wait? What if they never make another Big-O?
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Post by supergetterv on May 9, 2013 1:32:05 GMT -5
One thing that I have learned in collecting as long as I have is better versions are always coming out. That is why one of the advice I give to newbies in this hobby it to never backtrack and always collect the newer up and coming release rather than paying a high premium on the secondary market on a out of production item. For example, if you like Grendizer, it really doesn't make sense for you to backtrack and look for a old SoC GX-04s when you have option of getting the SRC, the Metaltech version or even the up and coming CM's version. But say for someone like me who already owns the SoC Grendizer, no matter how much better the newer version are, I have no interest in getting any of the new ones. I mean, I could be on the fence on the new ones but I am not the type of collectors that goes out and buy multiple versions of the same character. If I do so, it is only because I am not satisfy with the version of the character that I have in my possession. Take for instance the newer SRC Shin Getter. I already have a Aoshima Shin Getter and also the Perfect Change SHE Shin Getter, both version I am already happy with so I have no desire to own the the new SRC. But I wouldn't recommend new collectors to buy these older ones because I dont think they are better than the newer SRC one.
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2013 3:28:28 GMT -5
Well said supergetter. I'm that newbie collector ur talking about and I've bought some older out of production toys like u said. So what about the cm jeeg? If I can get a good deal on it and other versions are inferior, shouldn't i get that?
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Post by xiombarg on May 9, 2013 16:14:59 GMT -5
I've often been on the fence about something because I can't decide how much I like an unusual design.
Figures I've been on the fence about:
Genesic Gaogaigar
Fewture Getter Ryoma
Garo and Zero
Gurren Lagann
In most cases these unique designs grow on me and end up being some of my favorite figures, but not always. With Gurren Lagann I've actually lost interest in him over time.
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Post by Nostalgia on May 9, 2013 19:29:17 GMT -5
I'm on the fence when a figure straddles between the fine line of cost vs desire, as most folks do.
As a huge GaoGaiGar fan, any GGG SRC is preordered on sight, no questions asked. Same case for Transformers Masterpieces.
"I'm on the fence" situation hits when I'm not initially interested in a figure, but has either gotten rave reviews, a cool gimmick or just looks plain badass. Some examples would be Yamato Shield Liger for the huge amount of diecast, Riobot Gurren Lagann for its unique engineering and Fewture Getters for both diecast content and positive feeddback.
As always, cost is the main prohibitive factor. I do some mental gymnastics of cost vs coolness vs resale value, and if it goes past the tipping point, I get off the fence and purchase it.
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Post by Gakken on May 17, 2013 17:55:29 GMT -5
Personal connection? Yes, if No don't buy.
Does it look amazing? Yes, if No don't buy.
Is it a good price? Yes, if No look for a deal.
Do you have room and money to spend? Yes, if No sell an old toy you don't like.
Profit!
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2013 22:30:44 GMT -5
Gakken brings up a great point many forget about - space. It's as limited as money and we don't think about it as much as money but its important.
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Post by droutmaster on May 19, 2013 18:32:14 GMT -5
for me it would be depending on certain situations like:
- having doubts with the figure and i wait for someone to do a review of it.
- is the price acceptable in comparison to what the figure is?
- is there another version of the figure by the same company or another coming out which it could be better.
- is the figure or an accessory of the figure exclusive? (which it kills the deal for me pretty much).
- space issue.
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Post by kurochan24 on May 19, 2013 23:40:12 GMT -5
Hi everyone, my first post.
With regards to the question, it's usually money, if it's worth my money to be exact. I have bought some thing before even if it's a bit steep simplky because I knew what I'm going to get.
For example right now, I'm adamant to buy the generations Blitzwing simply because of that nosecone and some design flaws. I'll be paying for it and live with the issues while there are other great voyagers that I can get like the beast hunters Shockwave.
And up until this point, I haven't made a decision yet.
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Post by Gakken on May 20, 2013 12:42:42 GMT -5
I think it's important for people to curate their collection, not just collect their collection.
Buying is the easy part.
Getting rid of toys you don't need or enjoy anymore, making space for the boxes and displaying them, that's the hard part! But it's very rewarding, and I feel it's where the true soul of the hobby lies.
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Post by bowhntr66 on Jun 9, 2013 6:50:33 GMT -5
"On the fence".... Story of my life!!! Current situation, I've been eyeing up SOC pieces, but I'm a jumbo collector with a semi-rare wish list. I do have a lot of other items that I've picked up to accent my collection, but they are not my primary focus. Do I pick up the SOC pieces to add with the jumbos and risk not having the cash when one of my wishes comes along?? So I guess, for me, the big one is cost. Especially when we're talking $500 or more for a jumbo....
Tom
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