Some People Shouldn't Collect

[ericcruzstealth]

I wouldn't call a few messages over several months hassling. Peoples situations change all the time. Tbh I text tons of offers on all sorts of things. I most likely inquired literally a few times ie 7 or less over a half year period. Maybe you lose a job and need some funds or something. If that is hassling then you guys need to get out. I believe I offered as high as $800. This part I'm not positive on as I tend to mix who what when up. If that is cheap well then I apologize. Idk sellers are entitled to list price of course, but when somebody makes an offer seller needs to keep in mind buyer is also gauging on where the seller stands. It's not meant to offend. Obviously if they throw in some info it's meant to see if the seller is open. Just the other day I made an offer on bart Starr auto rookie. The seller used the same tactics that i did. He sent me the link of a similar one that sold for x and x and told me that if I didn't take his offer he'd be raising his prices. This I can appreciate. And if I was egmotorsports1 well let's just say his response would be to that seller might be something along the lines like you shouldn't be selling or something overbearing.

[Mr. Ginrai]

Nov 28, 2013 22:44:29 GMT -5 ericcruzstealth said:

Mr. Ginrai wth are you talking about. I never filed any complaint against the seller. You need to read more carefully.
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I made offers and showed them facts of info on what I bought not made up. Seller got offended by facts.
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As far as your speculations on what the seller paid is irrelevant.
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Please quit throwing out meaningless opinions trying to characterize what happened.

1. No. You need to re-read. I never said you filed a complaint against the seller and I know you didn't do anything of the sort. He had an issue with eBay because eBay picked up on his offer to sell off of eBay in the message. eBay screens and monitors all messages.

2. I understand you validated your prior purchases. And yes maybe CPR priced it too high. Do popy golions sell as cheap as you have bought them? Yes. Do some also sell for 1,2, or 3k? Yes. Bottom line is CPR didn't want to take your offer combined with the eBay fees based on what he probably had spent on it. Anything else that happened between you two is irrelevant to me and was between you two.

3. My speculation on what he paid is relevant. Because, I am going to venture that he overpaid for the piece (not in his mind however - everyone has their individual thresholds) and couldn't take such a loss on it or didn't want to. Has it happened to me and others before? Yup, sometimes we make mistakes and sometimes we spend too much just because we want something. It happens in collecting.

4. I'm not throwing out meaningless characterizations to characterize what happened. I'm basically agreeing that you two had an issue and there are two sides to the story. I mainly speculated on why eBay gave him a problem and then said that you two basically couldn't reach an agreement to make a transaction happen. Apparently you both had some words as well. That's it end of story.

Bottom line is I welcomed you here and dropped into the thread because once party two shows up and says, "hi I'm the other guy", these threads usually turn into a sh*tstorm.

You both seem like decent guys and between what I said and xtrlowz75 said we are basically trying to say nicely great, we heard a little from both of you but it doesn't matter anymore. It's over and done with and old news.

Basically, it was a subtle hint to say great, let's drop it right here and move on. Why? Because it's five months later.

I'm sorry if you took it differently but that was not my intention to come across as "mean" at all if you re-read.

So again, good luck, have fun and look forward to seeing your collection. I'm not mad at all. That's it and I'm not going to comment further. Have a good night.

[xtrlowz75]

I'm going to get my fishing pole and fish out another comment from you Ginrai. You can't comment dodge that easy. Oh and to the new guy. Welcome aboard. Don't mind us crotchety collectors we are just a passionate bunch that like to collect and like a good deal. No offense and no harm here. We all make rough choices and thats just the fun of being human. Much love and happy Thanksgiving.

[B-]

Nov 28, 2013 22:44:29 GMT -5 ericcruzstealth said:

Mr. Ginrai wth are you talking about. I never filed any complaint against the seller. You need to read more carefully. I made offers and showed them facts of info on what I bought not made up. Seller got offended by facts. All they had to do was respectfully decline end of story. Instead they vitriolized my offer, threatened to block me, threw in some personal attacks not knowing anything about me. As far as your speculations on what the seller paid is irrelevant. Some sellers mark prices way up while others just try to eke out a profit. I know I sell things myself. I listed a godaikin golion at $400. No one bought it I had a few lowball offers but I respectfully counter offered and respectfully declined. I also ended up relisting item for less a couple extra times. Please quit throwing out meaningless opinions trying to characterize what happened.

Maybe its you who needs to read more carefully,Mr.Ginrai NEVER said that actually he said "Yes, eBay probably picked up the policy violation as you said, not something you did."

Were you aiming that at another poster?Mr.ginrai actually was very nice to you i think.I think your confuseed.But welcome anyhow.

[xtrlowz75]

Baron were you pointing when you said "Maybe its you"? I felt you pointing strongly on that one. All the way to Chico I might add. I almost had to slap your finger away due to the sharp gesture. hehe

[ericcruzstealth]

And I quote Mr. Ginrai's words not mine, "This is how it works. Like it or leave it, but don't file complaints on sellers listings just because you the buyer, thinks it is wrong. "

Don't file complaints on sellers listings because you think it is wrong.

[ericcruzstealth]

Appreciate your thoughts Baron!

[ericcruzstealth]

Thanks for the welcome and appreciate the comment Baron!

Jul 3, 2013 22:29:47 GMT -5 crpdiablos said:

Anyone ever deal with guys on ebay trying to shake you down telling you what your selling is too much. Anyway, I was selling on ebay and this guy keeps emailing me making little stabs here and there then finally I said I can't sell any cheaper on ebay beacause of fees but would sell it for X amount through one of my sales on the forums. Next thing you know I'm getting a notice from ebay that I violated policy and one more and I'd get banned. What a weenie this guy is. Here is his auction so if your selling or buying please avoid this guy. He told me a mint in box popy golion is only worth $535.00. I sold one of those 10 years ago for more than that. I hope posting this auction doesnt get me in trouble but this guy has hassled me on two of my auctions recently and thought I should post it here so it gets seen.It's one thing to hassle me but when I try to be kind and he goes and tries to get me in trouble with ebay cause he can't afford my item that's another. Here's a link to ericcruzstealth otherwise know as Weenie

www.ebay.com/itm/Voltron-III-Diecast-Matchbox-Made-in-Japan-/171068153383?pt=US_Action_Figures&hash=item27d474de27

1. I never said mint in box that is mistake 1. I did say a mint popy golion.
2. I'm unaware of what other auctions u r referring to. I'm pretty sure the only item I've had of interest was the popy golion.
3. Just because something sold for more 10 yrs doesn't mean its worth more. This should be obvious. Several factors like inflation and economics come into play. Houses in the US were generally worth more 10 yrs ago which goes against your analogy along with watches, my flat screen tv you get the point.

[crpdiablos]

I feel like chiming in on this but I know how these threads can go. Two sides of every story I'm right in my mind seeing I never sell outside ebay and from Eric constantly asking for a cheap price I broke my rule and told him it was for sale on robot japan or something to that affect. I was honestly trying at that point to help a collector get a better deal so to my surprise my gesture turned against me which definatley got me upset because next thing I know ebay is giving me a warning. Now I don't know why they would be watching my account. I was very hesitant to even direct Eric to robot japan or I may have said forums, I can't remember its been so long but I do remember how quickly after I wrote that I was warned by ebay. Now I have some high dollar Items we manufacture on ebay and that warning pissed me off cause it could have messed with my business. Coincidence maybe. I could say a lot here but what's the point. I don't have to be right or prove myself right, I may be wrong who knows I probab;y am;) Maybe ebay was watching my account but Ive never had a problem in the nearly three yrs Ive had this user name. If it will end this thread so no arguements start then this was all my fault I overreacted, truly sorry Eric lets let this thread disolve and get back to collecting. Apparantely we both have a love for the same items and Ive got a bunch of the hardest to find even a very rare Bandai 1984 marked golion with a very unique story and the only one I've ever seen.

If you wanna talk some more PM so this thread doesn't get weird!

[KingboyD]

Yes, please let's take this to PMs if it needs to be discussed further. No one is going to convince others of their causes in cases like this.

[Mr. Ginrai]

Nov 29, 2013 3:40:22 GMT -5 ericcruzstealth said:

And I quote Mr. Ginrai's words not mine, "This is how it works. Like it or leave it, but don't file complaints on sellers listings just because you the buyer, thinks it is wrong. "

Don't file complaints on sellers listings because you think it is wrong.

You show me exactly where the hell I said this. Go ahead. You won't be able to because I never did. Don't put words in my mouth.

You either can't/didn't read the right post or are trying to comment about someone else and inserting my name.

I don't care if you did it accidentally or on purpose, it just needs to stop. This is the second time you have misquoted me now (both Baron and I made you aware of the first time) and I don't appreciate it.

I commented in this thread from a middle ground and said hey you guys didn't do a transaction and it's over with.

I welcomed you here and others did the same. I don't know what else you want or why you continue to try to point a finger at me. Please just stop and enjoy your time here. Have a good day.

[xtrlowz75]

Fishing pole worked hehe. No it was not Ginrai, it was me. And please re-read what I initially said. I was not stating anyone did file a complaint, my statement was a general statement Not to file a complaint if anyone thinks a price is wrong. The price is the seller's choice, not the buyer. The buyer has the choice to buy it or not, but its not cool for any buyer to file a complaint if they don't like a price on eBay. I hope this makes it more clear. If it doesn't make it clear, then I may have to get the Windex.

[ericcruzstealth]

My apologies the way you guys board is setup appears the text precedes the user when it's actually the reverse. Again sorry for that mistake.

[ericcruzstealth]

Nov 28, 2013 12:25:53 GMT -5 xtrlowz75 said:

To all just remember when buying or selling, the price, regardless of how crazy it may be, is up to the seller. We have another thread where we have been joking around about listings with ludicrous prices for robots, but we are just talking about it, not taking actions against sellers. Anyway purchasing or bidding regardless of price, is the CHOICE of the buyer. If its to high, don't buy or bid. Maybe try to make and offer, but don't hassle the seller just because you think the seller is wrong, or he/she doesn't agree with your offer. Believe me, its time consuming just to get an eBay lot ready to list, and frustrating when someone reports you for stupid things like your price, or a simple mistake in the listing info. eBay does not give sellers the chance to correct listings before shutting down the listing when someone complains, costing time and possible money. Ebay gives buyers actually more control than necessary over the sellers, in my opinion. It has cost me possible sales from other watchers and bidders whom did not complain. So be considerate and remember buying on eBay is a choice, and its also the sellers choice to set his own price regardless what someone else thinks it should be. I hate over inflated prices too, but sometimes we do sell somethings that we think we can make a good buck on. I mean is a Tetsujin-28 SG-01 really worth $2000 to $3000? No it isn't, but sometimes they actually sell for that price. So each seller with one dreams he'll make the same awesome sale and profit. Heck I have a case of 5 mint Dyjupiters and 1 used. Each mint 1 goes for $250-$300 individually if you research them on eBay. So I set my price at $1200 for the lot. Is it fair? I think it is. Will some other buyer think it is fair? Maybe yes or no. Maybe they want a good or cheap deal and therefore won't be happy with my price. But 1 buyer out of the millions might think its the best deal ever (which it actually is since there isn't another like it in the world as we know of), and buy the lot. And that is the guy I have set the listing for. Its for the ONE buyer who does want them, feels its a fair deal, and chooses to bid and pay. Guess what, that was his choice to bid or/and pay the price, and my choice to sell and list it as such. Oh, and hey I take offers too. Now on RJ am I going to give a better deal than on eBay? Yes for 2 reasons. 1: RJ is not full retail and many of us are like family, so ya get the family discount. Will it be super cheap, no, but it will beat eBay. 2: On RJ I don't have to pay eBay percent for selling, so again the buyer gets a better price and I can take a deeper cut for a discount, not having to pay fees. Haha but don't ask me to sell the lot of Dyjupiters to low, as they didn't come cheap for me either

So if this little educational piece doesn't help a buyer or seller, then you really shouldn't be buying or selling anything. This is how it works. Like it or leave it, but don't file complaints on sellers listings just because you the buyer, thinks it is wrong. Its a choice so make the choice to bid or not. Sorry if I upset anyone. I wasn't meaning to, but just had to say it like it is. Much love all.

Was meant towards this guy! Last paragraph.

[xtrlowz75]

Sorry my last paragraph was not directed at you specifically. I was just making a "you" as in a general blanket statement for anyone shopping a bidding or selling site. No buyer should hassle or report a seller, unless the seller has truly done them wrong or is clearly violating the site's selling policy. Again buying/selling is a choice plain and simple.