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Post by crpdiablos on Jul 3, 2013 22:29:47 GMT -5
Anyone ever deal with guys on ebay trying to shake you down telling you what your selling is too much. Anyway, I was selling on ebay and this guy keeps emailing me making little stabs here and there then finally I said I can't sell any cheaper on ebay beacause of fees but would sell it for X amount through one of my sales on the forums. Next thing you know I'm getting a notice from ebay that I violated policy and one more and I'd get banned. What a weenie this guy is. Here is his auction so if your selling or buying please avoid this guy. He told me a mint in box popy golion is only worth $535.00. I sold one of those 10 years ago for more than that. I hope posting this auction doesnt get me in trouble but this guy has hassled me on two of my auctions recently and thought I should post it here so it gets seen.It's one thing to hassle me but when I try to be kind and he goes and tries to get me in trouble with ebay cause he can't afford my item that's another. Here's a link to ericcruzstealth otherwise know as Weenie www.ebay.com/itm/Voltron-III-Diecast-Matchbox-Made-in-Japan-/171068153383?pt=US_Action_Figures&hash=item27d474de27 |
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Post by mecha-mania on Jul 3, 2013 23:36:52 GMT -5
an ebay transaction should be willing buyer and willing seller, if anyone cannot accept the terms and price of a listing, just dont bid. when expectations between a buyer and seller dont match, theres no way the transaction can go through, simple as that. to be honest, i have experience similar problems when i sold on ebay where i get bargain hunters trying to, not negotiate, but low ball me. and when that happens, what i usually do is tell them to bugger off or simply ignore them and if i find the person to be too persistent like in your case, i would just cancel his bid and block him. and as a rule of thumb, i do not leave my contact number nor personal email account on my listings, all communications are done via ebay messgaing, that way, and i hope, it can be monitored by ebay which could be useful in case of any disputes.
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Post by xtrlowz75 on Jul 4, 2013 2:00:36 GMT -5
I just sold a Golion for $305 not mint but 90% complete. So its value is what ever someone finally pays for it. Dude sounds like a weenie haha.
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Post by crpdiablos on Jul 4, 2013 11:19:04 GMT -5
Was that your's on ebay recently? I was bidding on it.
He was actually talking about the original Japanese Box Popy with chrome elbows in box with every accessory still carded. I was selling one at a high price based on what I have seen a few sell for recently in Japan. If someone wanted it it was for sale and honestly after ebay fees and paypal shipping etc I wasn't making any money. My mistake was directing him to the forum so he could get a better deal when I list it here. He used that against me to tell ebay I was trying to sell outside ebay. Anyway lessen learned. I had a bad feeling about this guy from the msgs he was leaving me on a couple of my auctions and even thought I shouldn't respond any more to his msgs. I will be posting my Popy Dx Beast King soon in the for sale section, should have done that in the first place
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Post by Daltanias68 on Jul 14, 2013 19:03:12 GMT -5
Well, I guess technically, you were trying to sell outside ebay, after having listed on ebay. Personally I don't think there's anything wrong with that, it's just "unethical" to ebay because you're using them to advertise, but then when you finalize the sale outside of ebay you get away with not paying their fees. When you think about it, it's your item, you can do any damn thing you want with it. I see ridiculous stuff on ebay, absolute junk with insane prices, and the urge is always there to ask the seller, "what are you thinking? What are you basing this price on?!" but I just ignore it. Don't like it, don't buy. The only thing that bugs me is that a lot of people tend to use ebay like a price guide, & they will look at other auctions first before listing their item. If someone has the price jacked up, it certainly CAN, and does, influence other sellers to raise their prices, too. So it's not entirely harmless. But in the long run, buyers are not all dummies, & if something is priced too high, no one buys. The prices will come down or the seller will just go away & try again later if they're not in a hurry to sell.
One time I was selling a Lime Green Target exclusive Gameboy SP, and it wasn't overpriced or anything. But this jerk started harassing me saying I was trying to pass off a "regular SP" that I had simply changed the shell on. Well I had changed shells before & it's a royal pain in the ass to do, plus the shell itself is expensive besides the labor, so it wouldn't have paid to try to do that in the first place. It was selling at $75, half the cost of the system at the time. I wasn't "trying to get away with" anything but sell off an extra unit I had. I even had the box & posted pics of the box, but this idiot harassed me day after day saying I was a "fraud" and "I know what you're trying to do!" It was INFURIATING & ebay does NOTHING to get these morons off your back. EBay's policing system has NEVER worked, mainly because they leave it up to the buyers & sellers to police themselves. There have been a few occasions where I let someone know the name of something so if they relisted the item it would help get more hits, and even fewer times where I corrected someone (nicely) when they advertised something as being from the 50s or 60s when it was actually from the 70s or 80s. Aside from that, though, I just walk away from those overpriced auctions...if someone wants to blow their money on something they could get for a fraction of the price & they're too dumb to shop around, that's their problem.
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Post by Derik on Jul 27, 2013 6:54:48 GMT -5
Thanks for the warning. I have had a few persistent almost obnoxious people try to shake me down.
I always try to be polite the first few messages, but after that I just use the ebay blocking system.
Wish i could see there face when they find out they come up blocked. LOL! Life is too short to deal with assholes.
Fair warning on ciclope81 and iron-man82 on the france site. There both the same shady crooked ba$t*rd.
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Post by crpdiablos on Aug 25, 2013 18:08:09 GMT -5
How do I do the ebay blocking I tried but ebay can be confusing sometimes
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Post by mojacko on Aug 25, 2013 18:47:58 GMT -5
man this sucks....ebay always (most of the times) sides with the buyer.....limited buyer protection if there is anymore...?!?
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Post by crpdiablos on Aug 26, 2013 23:02:31 GMT -5
I can't believe this guy, I have told him my rock bottom then he tries to get me in trouble so I told him I never sell to him, now he offers me $700.00. This has been going on over a two month period not to mention my auction isn't even up any more. Just one of those guys that likes to annoy people. I think he is the same guy that made a comment on my sales thread on this forum about how he sees these sell between 600 and 800 and some other comment on the item to try and lessen the value. Id like to have this guy face to face. If he saw me he'd shut his mouth.
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Post by mecha-mania on Aug 27, 2013 0:35:27 GMT -5
why dont you try blocking the seller? way better than exchanging messages with him.
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Post by crpdiablos on Aug 27, 2013 1:54:53 GMT -5
I finally figured out how to do that so that is done
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Post by mecha-mania on Aug 27, 2013 5:06:49 GMT -5
Nice, didnt know you have issues setting it up, or i would have posted the link here. But yeah, better to get such buyer out of the way. I have encountered my fair share of those no good low ballers and hagglers when i sold stuff on ebay.
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Post by tetsuryu on Aug 31, 2013 11:13:55 GMT -5
When I saw the thread title, I expected this to be about people who manhandle their toys or just generally do stupid things (like leaving white plastic toys exposed to direct sunlight, etc).
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Post by ericcruzstealth on Nov 28, 2013 1:57:10 GMT -5
Hi I am the so called "villainous" ericcruzstealth on eBay. The originator of the post has only told you some of the context of what occurred. Yes I made him offers on his popy golion that was originally listed in excess of $1000. And yes I did buy a mint popy 1st edition golion for $535. You could ask seller bella91203 her real name is Nicole. Or ask Kwan another seller eBay user longbow008 who I met in person and bought a 1st edition popy golion for $600. The issue I had with this poster was one he got offended by me offering him a couple consecutive months. Hey it doesn't hurt to ask. I sell these things myself and am not so easily offended. The other issue is after he got offended then he got personal and said I couldn't afford his golion along with other personal attacks. Personally eBay doesn't need sellers who get offended by potential customers. I probably am more knowledgable than egmotorsports1 about popy golions, godaikin golions, voltrons and lionbots than he is and probably own more. I'll be adding some of those pictures models after the holidays.
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Post by ericcruzstealth on Nov 28, 2013 2:00:34 GMT -5
The other thing is I didn't do anything. He must have gotten in trouble with eBay on his own.
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Post by crpdiablos on Nov 28, 2013 3:59:48 GMT -5
Welcome to the forum. Please stop having people contact me on ebay to tell me that they bought a Golion from you. I'm not gonna get into it anymore than what's been said months ago but now guys are contacting me months later to tell me you bought their stuff. I'm glad your a Golion fan, I'm a huge Golion and lionbot collector, I actually am into the lionbot variants more as I've exhausted what's out there for the popy godaikin and matchbox but there sure are a lot of different lionbot variants that were made from the original molds. I haven't counted recently but just at my shop Ice got 15 different versions and at least 20 or more at home all are the die cast 12" versions. Anyway welcome to the board it's a great place
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Post by Mr. Ginrai on Nov 28, 2013 9:18:46 GMT -5
Welcome! It sounds like you have a great collection. Look forward to seeing it if you decide to post.
I will say that there are obviously two sides to every story. You wanted to buy at X and CPR didn't want to sell. CPR didn't want to sell after you asked him multiple times.
Another type of sale was offered and you and/or eBay may not have agreed so you guys may have both been a little irritated over on eBay and had some words. It happens to us all.
Yes, eBay probably picked up the policy violation as you said, not something you did. eBay watches intently for that because it cheats them out of money/violates the user agreement.
You bought some golions at killer prices, from some knowledgable voltron sellers, that's awesome - same thing happens to all of us, sometimes we get deals and sometimes we don't and have to pay market or more - sometimes prices change with demand as well. That's the journey of collecting and the nature of the market.
When the story was aired on the boards it wasn't an outright attack, more of a relay of a story. The thread was dead here months ago.
Now that you have added a little more I think that things are pretty much settled with this thread. Bottom line is this was an issue between the two of you and the price you were offering just wasn't going to work for the seller because he'd lose too much money, something we all deal with when selling on eBay unfortunately.
CPR is a good guy and you sound like a great collector as well. I really look forward to what you can bring to the community, we have many great members new and old.
I'm going to ask that this issue be left alone before a Moderator steps in to start deleting posts, and handing out infractions or bans. We all do our best to get along here and other than a couple fraud sellers and general trolls like every collector forum gets, we haven't really had to get serious with anyone.
So again welcome and have fun! It's the holiday season after all and we are all on the hunt for great toys!
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Post by xtrlowz75 on Nov 28, 2013 12:25:53 GMT -5
To all just remember when buying or selling, the price, regardless of how crazy it may be, is up to the seller. We have another thread where we have been joking around about listings with ludicrous prices for robots, but we are just talking about it, not taking actions against sellers. Anyway purchasing or bidding regardless of price, is the CHOICE of the buyer. If its to high, don't buy or bid. Maybe try to make and offer, but don't hassle the seller just because you think the seller is wrong, or he/she doesn't agree with your offer. Believe me, its time consuming just to get an eBay lot ready to list, and frustrating when someone reports you for stupid things like your price, or a simple mistake in the listing info. eBay does not give sellers the chance to correct listings before shutting down the listing when someone complains, costing time and possible money. Ebay gives buyers actually more control than necessary over the sellers, in my opinion. It has cost me possible sales from other watchers and bidders whom did not complain. So be considerate and remember buying on eBay is a choice, and its also the sellers choice to set his own price regardless what someone else thinks it should be. I hate over inflated prices too, but sometimes we do sell somethings that we think we can make a good buck on. I mean is a Tetsujin-28 SG-01 really worth $2000 to $3000? No it isn't, but sometimes they actually sell for that price. So each seller with one dreams he'll make the same awesome sale and profit. Heck I have a case of 5 mint Dyjupiters and 1 used. Each mint 1 goes for $250-$300 individually if you research them on eBay. So I set my price at $1200 for the lot. Is it fair? I think it is. Will some other buyer think it is fair? Maybe yes or no. Maybe they want a good or cheap deal and therefore won't be happy with my price. But 1 buyer out of the millions might think its the best deal ever (which it actually is since there isn't another like it in the world as we know of), and buy the lot. And that is the guy I have set the listing for. Its for the ONE buyer who does want them, feels its a fair deal, and chooses to bid and pay. Guess what, that was his choice to bid or/and pay the price, and my choice to sell and list it as such. Oh, and hey I take offers too. Now on RJ am I going to give a better deal than on eBay? Yes for 2 reasons. 1: RJ is not full retail and many of us are like family, so ya get the family discount. Will it be super cheap, no, but it will beat eBay. 2: On RJ I don't have to pay eBay percent for selling, so again the buyer gets a better price and I can take a deeper cut for a discount, not having to pay fees. Haha but don't ask me to sell the lot of Dyjupiters to low, as they didn't come cheap for me either  So if this little educational piece doesn't help a buyer or seller, then you really shouldn't be buying or selling anything. This is how it works. Like it or leave it, but don't file complaints on sellers listings just because you the buyer, thinks it is wrong. Its a choice so make the choice to bid or not. Sorry if I upset anyone. I wasn't meaning to, but just had to say it like it is. Much love all. |
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Post by Mr. Ginrai on Nov 28, 2013 17:03:10 GMT -5
Well said bro! :-)
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Post by ericcruzstealth on Nov 28, 2013 22:44:29 GMT -5
Mr. Ginrai wth are you talking about. I never filed any complaint against the seller. You need to read more carefully. I made offers and showed them facts of info on what I bought not made up. Seller got offended by facts. All they had to do was respectfully decline end of story. Instead they vitriolized my offer, threatened to block me, threw in some personal attacks not knowing anything about me. As far as your speculations on what the seller paid is irrelevant. Some sellers mark prices way up while others just try to eke out a profit. I know I sell things myself. I listed a godaikin golion at $400. No one bought it I had a few lowball offers but I respectfully counter offered and respectfully declined. I also ended up relisting item for less a couple extra times. Please quit throwing out meaningless opinions trying to characterize what happened.
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