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Post by bowhntr66 on Jul 4, 2013 5:40:33 GMT -5
Twice! Twice! Twice I started watching a jumbo that had a couple of bids on it, so that I could try for it, only to have the auction vanish! ( short rant, I'm done now!)
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Post by mecha-mania on Jul 4, 2013 8:44:18 GMT -5
Auction ended early?
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Post by bowhntr66 on Jul 4, 2013 10:38:48 GMT -5
Nope, took the listings off. Even dissapeared from my watch list. I'm thinking they took an offer and closed it....
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Post by toykrazy on Jul 4, 2013 11:25:43 GMT -5
Nope, took the listings off. Even dissapeared from my watch list. I'm thinking they took an offer and closed it.... Ebay is getting REALLY picky now. They just removed my listing because I had the word "Mazinga" in my title. It was a Jumbo D17, but I figured it flows along the lines of Jumbo Machinder, Shogun Warriors, etc..... . I guess I can see their point, but as a seller it, of course, helps to have it pop up as many categories as possible. Another auction I had that they removed I had to fight them on. I listed a Micronaut and they removed it because it had MEGO Corp in my title. I tried to explain it to them that Mego corp IS the manufacture and that is says it right on the package. They were obviously wrong but didn't do anything about it. So the good, the bad, but what are you going to do but just re-list the item......
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Post by bowhntr66 on Jul 4, 2013 12:43:54 GMT -5
That was your jumbo D17?!? That's the second one I was talking about that vanished.
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Post by Mr. Ginrai on Jul 4, 2013 15:42:28 GMT -5
eBay hates unnecessary words. Referred to as "keyword spamming" where you intentionally or unintentionally add related words to what you are selling (but items of that description are not included) to garner additional views and hits in search results viewed by others, or to populate your items higher in searches as well.
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Post by mecha-mania on Jul 4, 2013 21:52:06 GMT -5
oic...its good in a way though, try searching for "popy" and you get tons of unrelated items.
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Post by magengar on Jul 4, 2013 23:03:40 GMT -5
That sounds legit. I'm guilty of keyword spamming when I post videos at youtube! zozo-mag eBay hates unnecessary words. Referred to as "keyword spamming" where you intentionally or unintentionally add related words to what you are selling (but items of that description are not included) to garner additional views and hits in search results viewed by others, or to populate your items higher in searches as well.
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Post by bowhntr66 on Jul 5, 2013 4:41:57 GMT -5
Well, at least this one ended well. I bought the D17!
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Post by Mr. Ginrai on Jul 5, 2013 9:13:41 GMT -5
oic...its good in a way though, try searching for "popy" and you get tons of unrelated items. Exactly. I agree that it is good. If you run other similar searches it yields the same results and it sucks having to pick through all the crap.
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Post by Gakken on Jul 7, 2013 21:17:54 GMT -5
Maybe they sold it off ebay and didn't have to pay fees. I've done that before.
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Post by bowhntr66 on Jul 8, 2013 3:19:53 GMT -5
That's what I thought to Gakken. Turns out ebay closed it. Then he sold it to me through here.
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Post by admin1 aka Ed on Jul 17, 2013 11:48:39 GMT -5
Yeah, ebay yanked all my friend's sales based on spamming recently. The OLD way is no longer going to work....so we need to become better with searches. Then I hate the fact ebay ended wild card searches E
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Post by Dragonclaw on Aug 1, 2013 11:57:55 GMT -5
There are lots of sellers who just cancel and sell outside of eBay. It's happened to me TONS of times in the last couple months. It's especially frustrating on ones where I'm the high bidder. There was that one thread a few months back where the guy posted on here that he was running a ton of Marmit super robot auctions. I was going to make a run for 6-7 of them and was the high bidder on several when he dropped them to sell elsewhere.Too bad because I was NOWHERE near the top of my bid on several of them and once he dropped a bunch of them I decided not to up my bid on the couple that were still there...I would have otherwise, especially if I was already in for 5-6 pieces anyway, but in the end I figured he didn't give me the common courtesy to see if I'd match or beat the offer he had, despite my obvuos interst so why do business with someone like that. Hope he got a really good price...
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Post by bowhntr66 on Aug 1, 2013 14:24:15 GMT -5
YES!! I remember him! He had the 22" combattler that I started watching and was going to go after. I also had the Mrs. tslked into letting me buy one of his 6' ones. When he took the Combattler off, I didn't bid on any other one's. the 6' one sold for the starting bid. Like you said, his loss...
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Post by thebigr on Aug 2, 2013 9:56:27 GMT -5
I don't come here often anymore, but this thread reminded me of something going on lately and I wanted to clue you guys in on something I've noticed since January when I finally sold off the last bits of my vintage Popy stuff and a few other things. I got into a huge protracted argument with eBay about Keyword Spamming, as they labelled twenty of my auctions (which were for some coloring books, some machinder missiles and fists, and a few lots of junk gokins) as "intentional keyword spamming" and they killed my seller account I've had since 2002 over this issue. I discovered after a few days on the phone trying to get my account back, the words "POPY," "JUMBO MACHINDER," "MAZINGA" and "MAZINGER" are all now considered what the woman from eBay called "Watch Words" - which means that they keep an eye on auctions with these terms as they are listed. It was told to me that many users are misusing these keywords and eBay is cracking down. I asked her if they were going to crack down on the guys with 1,000 keywords in white text at the bottom of their listings too, and got nothing But of course myself selling legit Popy stuff, that's spaming? Anyway my Seller Account is now dead after 10+ years, and there's no way for me to sell again. Anywho, I got an email two days later from someone with an ebay store that caters to our side of the hobby, and was made a pretty lowball offer on all the stuff that was pulled. I'm not going to call them out as I don't *know* that they were the ones reporting my auctions- but the auctions only had maybe 20 views before they were pulled... I think what's going on is there's someone (or multiple people) obviously reporting any competing auctions with "Popy" in their titles, and then hitting up sellers once the auctions are taken down. I'm not naming names but this type of thing has happened to me many times and only when I've sold imports or vintage items, never for the GIJOE or LPs or books, only the gokins. There is a huge difference between making a deal behind the scenes, and nuking someone else's auctions in an attempt to kill competition and get better prices when they buy. I no longer do outside deals from eBay as 8/10 people just don't pay or play games afterwards with the price. We all know what this stuff goes for. Most can do a search on their phone. Games like this just make the hobby no fun for anyone, and for what, so some dude can make an extra ten spot on some grizzly jumbo fists? Kids, just buy what you collect and work hard at your day job. Everyone seems to want to flip everything nowadays, too much "Pawn Stars" I guess. And there are a huge amount of backroom deals in this hobby- I haven't bought anything japanese or robot related from a store or ebay in over a year, but this whole reporting of others in order to give yourself an upper hand- that is just plain dirty. If you buy lots and flip or trade the extras, good for you. If you're buying jumbo lots on Y!J just to flip, to make your credit card bill or your rent, realize that your customers are watching and bidding on those auctions too, we know how much they went for, so when you put everything up on eBay for double, we're not going to buy it. There are a couple of guys who have amazing overpriced stuff that no one will buy, because the seller paid market for them and now is trying to triple his money.
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Post by mecha-mania on Aug 2, 2013 10:46:14 GMT -5
Thanks for sharing
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Post by thebigr on Aug 2, 2013 15:18:44 GMT -5
I didn't even think about it really until I saw this thread last month. I was essentially told by the woman from eBay that since the stuff I was selling didn't have a box, I couldn't "prove" it was legitimate Popy product. She didn't even know what Popy was, she was just doing what she does for every other term that is questioned. She couldn't tell me who reported me, but she did let me know that I was reported by another member, and not from their internal staff. So, so many people spam "machinder" and "popy" it's shameful, and with the end prices on some things... I see why they would pay attention. This type of thing is talked about often in our hobby, but a lot of posts about it in the last six months... I would be cautious ending items early nowadays, especially the popy and jumbo stuff. There's been a huge upswing the last year or so of people who don't collect diecast (and especially jumbos) simply buying them to flip or trade for other stuff. I would watch out, as many of these dudes will work out a deal, you'll kill the auction, then you'll never hear from them, and you'll see them pop up on another forum a couple weeks later with the exact same item, double the asking price, trying to trade it for GIJOEs or something. So in other to fund their Joe purchase, they're flipping gokin and killing any auctions that potentially would be competition to their forum trade that week. I've seen it several times in the last year or so, and it's way, way not cool.
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