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Post by truecrud on Oct 1, 2013 1:10:54 GMT -5
Hi guys I need some help. I have two, what appear to be almost identical 1st edition Mazinger jumbos. The difference is in their legs. On the first one, there is a U shaped depression where the screw goes into the leg, on the second it is just a simple round hole barely big enough for the screw. You can see it clearly in the picture. Is one an earlier release or maybe a European release? I don't know and I figured someone here may know. I have included other pictures so anybody who wants to can compare the rest of the jumbo to one another. Any comments welcome and all help is greatly appreciated.  ,  ,  Thanks, Truecrud |
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Post by sabbath on Oct 4, 2013 12:33:14 GMT -5
Hi, interesting question, I have not the answer, but is the firing hand molded in dark blue or black?? On the first picture it seems dark blue, but second is really more black? Mine is without the U, and the firing hand is black (with 'Japan' printing). Hope someone find the answer!
It's really not easy to know everything about Jumbos as Mazinger Z, Raydeen, Gaiking, Dragun various models. So since a couple of years I collect pictures, infos...all as possible, and this week I print 2 books for me, with 210 pages of JM pictures (infos) (A4 size), yes 210 pages, of all jumbos as possibles and releated. But it's for my personnal using, (because I can't sell a book without all pictures crédits!) But I know, it's not a complete work, just a fan work. It's really difficult to find infos! And a complete holy Jumbo Bible still don't exist until now, so I printed mine !!!
Thanks
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Post by truecrud on Oct 7, 2013 1:08:33 GMT -5
I found other variations between the two> where the fists snap on to the arms one has one groove and one has the common 2 grooves. Another variation is that one is about a quarter on an inch taller than the other. last thing is that one has a backwards 4 on it's butt while the other has a backwards 3 above the made in japan. Come on guys some body has to know something 115 of you have read this thread.
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Post by toykrazy on Oct 7, 2013 4:29:57 GMT -5
I found other variations between the two> where the fists snap on to the arms one has one groove and one has the common 2 grooves. Another variation is that one is about a quarter on an inch taller than the other. last thing is that one has a backwards 4 on it's butt while the other has a backwards 3 above the made in japan. Come on guys some body has to know something 115 of you have read this thread. I don't have an answer.....yet...please post a pic of the top of the head without the plider |
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Post by bowhntr66 on Oct 7, 2013 6:08:53 GMT -5
I'm wondering if they're from different runs? The first molds couldn't have held up through mass production. May explain the 3 & 4 on the butt too.
I've tried to reasearch different things about variations on my jumbos, the 2 different Combattler waist stickers, the 2different Delta Wings (one is hollow on the bottom), etc. I keep getting the same answers, noone knows for sure, you'd have to find someone who worked there at the time. I haven't found anyone yet.
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Post by truecrud on Oct 7, 2013 10:18:17 GMT -5
Toykrazy here is the picture you asked for and a picture of the arm variation as well.   |
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Post by truecrud on Oct 7, 2013 10:19:53 GMT -5
Thank you for the effort in helping me guys, I am struggling to find any information and have only found one picture on line of the same leg variation and it's frustrating to not be able to fine what I want
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Post by bowhntr66 on Oct 7, 2013 10:36:49 GMT -5
Just a guess on the arm differences... If you also look at the Dragun arms, they're the same. I would guess that they may have started using Dragun upper arms on the Mazingas as well. If it helps, my first edition has the hole like the one on the right and the arm like the one on the left.
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Post by magengar on Oct 8, 2013 0:35:46 GMT -5
I wish I were more knowledgeable about Jumbos.
But, to be honest, I never really took this hobby serious enough
to study toy lines and learn all that technical stuff about
specimen variants.
I've only had Great Mazinga version 1 and version 2, and the
only difference I can see between them is the Brain Condor
(version 1 has a full-nose Condor, while version 2 looks like
someone force-crammed a fish lips-first into a keyhole. lol)
zozo-mag
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Post by glane21 on Oct 8, 2013 4:58:15 GMT -5
I'm wondering if they're from different runs? The first molds couldn't have held up through mass production. May explain the 3 & 4 on the butt too. I've tried to reasearch different things about variations on my jumbos, the 2 different Combattler waist stickers, the 2different Delta Wings (one is hollow on the bottom), etc. I keep getting the same answers, noone knows for sure, you'd have to find someone who worked there at the time. I haven't found anyone yet. I covered the differences between the 2 Combattler versions in this thread robotjapan.proboards.com/thread/19905/post-marvel-comics-jumbo-trinity |
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Post by toykrazy on Oct 8, 2013 20:15:51 GMT -5
Toykrazy here is the picture you asked for and a picture of the arm variation as well. Well, I was almost certain that you had a "big head" version of Great Mazinga which is the earliest of the Great Mazingas made. From what I understood, it was only available in the Popy version. The differences that I know of is the leg area near the missiles are different and the head spikes being taller. Unfortunately, I don't have one yet, I've only seen pics. The pics that I have seen, the inside of the head has four grooves (two on each side) where the plider wings would rest and the missile dock area looked similar. The fact that one is taller than the other is a good sign, but the fact that it has the missile shooter (Popy versions had the fist) and only two grooves throws it off. Who knows, there may have been a two groove big head version and someone could have easily changed the arm...... Hoping someone with a "big head" version can clarify.... Sorry, best I could do without actually comparing it side by side. Are the spikes on the head the same size on both?? |
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Post by toykrazy on Oct 8, 2013 20:17:19 GMT -5
Hi, interesting question, I have not the answer, but is the firing hand molded in dark blue or black?? On the first picture it seems dark blue, but second is really more black? Mine is without the U, and the firing hand is black (with 'Japan' printing). Hope someone find the answer! It's really not easy to know everything about Jumbos as Mazinger Z, Raydeen, Gaiking, Dragun various models. So since a couple of years I collect pictures, infos...all as possible, and this week I print 2 books for me, with 210 pages of JM pictures (infos) (A4 size), yes 210 pages, of all jumbos as possibles and releated. But it's for my personnal using, (because I can't sell a book without all pictures crédits!) But I know, it's not a complete work, just a fan work. It's really difficult to find infos! And a complete holy Jumbo Bible still don't exist until now, so I printed mine !!! Thanks See this post regarding the firing arm, pics towards the bottom.... robotjapan.proboards.com/thread/20522/mazinger-missle-hand |
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Post by truecrud on Oct 8, 2013 23:34:09 GMT -5
Toykrazy I have both the black and the dark blue (almost looks purple under light) firing hands. Both hands have individual red pieces. I will have to see which version came with what hand.
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Post by glane21 on Oct 9, 2013 17:02:06 GMT -5
Don't know if it's relevant, but the Unifive reissue has the U-style groove like the one on the left.
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