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Post by B- on Oct 17, 2013 20:34:53 GMT -5
Hi guys looking for someone who KNOWS resin painting and has done many models to help me get started with an expensive Z-Mazinger resin model I just bought.
Ive heard many options for paint brands,can anyone help? Im not looking to save a buck,so what is the BEST paint to use,and what is the best route to go?. Please only reply if you have actual experience with resin model kits,no garage craft warriors please.I want expert opinions ok?i want to do this right. Im talking teh guys that do resin kits,Gundam resin kits Super robot kits etc.Please help.Again only if you have DONE real and high end models respond.Thanks so much!
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Post by mojacko on Oct 17, 2013 21:36:57 GMT -5
i've started doing some plane models before but preparation is too tedious i've done some HG and MG Gundams before, customize some macross toys, TF's & action figures. The first thing to do is to clean them from any extra plastic and unnecessary plastics sticking out, use fine sand paper to make the surface smooth, i used tamiya sand papers but i've checked Home Depot even Canadian Tire, both carry different types of sand paper and its cheap too. Next is to prime them with Mr Hobby or those pylox spray cans, if your using spray cans you need to use sand paper on them (again) to make it smooth, if your using airbrush be sure to thinned the primer, sand them down if the surface is still rough. Most primer are lacquer base, its a bit toxic so be sure to spray in a well ventilated room. if you wanted to paint them really nice you need to invest with an airbrush. but if your hands are really steady you can do good using your hand and a nice brush, painting the kit. though there are many advantage of using an airbrush but then again true artist mix airbrush and hand painting the details. Paints come different forms, lacquer based paints are the best next are the acrylics which are really good as well, havent tried enamels but i've read they dont stick pretty much. im using Testors paint which i bought from Michaels using their 50% coupon turned out like $12 for a starter set. the preparation paert is really the most tedious part but after the preparation its really easy painting the kit, you just need to be attentive to details, observe, be inspired and plan ahead so that you wont miss important details on the kit. anyway i think that about it and happy painting.
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Post by B- on Oct 18, 2013 5:25:02 GMT -5
Thanks so much! I have an airbrush,I was thinking going spraycan with the special nozzle spray attachment as I dont have a compressor right now...any advice on spraypaint brands?
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Post by mojacko on Oct 18, 2013 7:14:30 GMT -5
testors or mr hobby/color (if available) spraypaints are meant for hobbyist, thou you can get away with those pylox spray can. the only downside of it is you have minimal control as where as airbrush you can do a lot specialy if you have a dual AB. i've searching for a cheap compressor and the one i found was here: harbor freightlucky for those rj peeps living in the US....i couldn't find a sweeter deal than this....
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Post by magengar on Oct 18, 2013 8:09:50 GMT -5
@ Mojacko: Have you tried contacting Harbor Freight via email to see if they'll ship to your country? Hopefully they will. If I were an airbrush artist I'd jump on this compressor asap. @ Baron:Bro, there ya go, that compressor sold at Harbor Freight would suit you fine. There's a Harbor Freight store at 1770 Central Ave. in Albany (near New Karner Rd), which is a straight drive from your neighborhood. zozo-mag testors or mr hobby/color (if available) spraypaints are meant for hobbyist, thou you can get away with those pylox spray can. the only downside of it is you have minimal control as where as airbrush you can do a lot specialy if you have a dual AB. i've searching for a cheap compressor and the one i found was here: harbor freightlucky for those rj peeps living in the US....i couldn't find a sweeter deal than this....
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Post by mojacko on Oct 18, 2013 10:57:22 GMT -5
@ Mojacko: Have you tried contacting Harbor Freight via email to see if they'll ship to your country? Hopefully they will. If I were an airbrush artist I'd jump on this compressor asap. @ Baron:Bro, there ya go, that compressor sold at Harbor Freight would suit you fine. There's a Harbor Freight store at 1770 Central Ave. in Albany (near New Karner Rd), which is a straight drive from your neighborhood. zozo-mag testors or mr hobby/color (if available) spraypaints are meant for hobbyist, thou you can get away with those pylox spray can. the only downside of it is you have minimal control as where as airbrush you can do a lot specialy if you have a dual AB. i've searching for a cheap compressor and the one i found was here: harbor freightlucky for those rj peeps living in the US....i couldn't find a sweeter deal than this.... I did try to send them (harbor freight) an email, think it was a year ago in the hopes of acquiring 1, but havent receive any reply ftom them....NADA!....:
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Post by magengar on Oct 21, 2013 2:03:11 GMT -5
Keep hitting them up, they'll have to respond to you sooner or later. zozo-mag @ Mojacko: Have you tried contacting Harbor Freight via email to see if they'll ship to your country? Hopefully they will. If I were an airbrush artist I'd jump on this compressor asap. @ Baron:Bro, there ya go, that compressor sold at Harbor Freight would suit you fine. There's a Harbor Freight store at 1770 Central Ave. in Albany (near New Karner Rd), which is a straight drive from your neighborhood. zozo-mag I did try to send them (harbor freight) an email, think it was a year ago in the hopes of acquiring 1, but havent receive any reply ftom them....NADA!....:
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Post by mojacko on Oct 22, 2013 17:55:48 GMT -5
addendum....thin down your paints...nothing ruins a nice custom with uneven paint strokes.
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Post by xiombarg on Oct 22, 2013 22:10:56 GMT -5
Oops I didn't really read your request when I originally posted (I was at work). I'll let the experts step forward, if any.
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Post by B- on Oct 24, 2013 5:26:34 GMT -5
testors or mr hobby/color (if available) spraypaints are meant for hobbyist, thou you can get away with those pylox spray can. the only downside of it is you have minimal control as where as airbrush you can do a lot specialy if you have a dual AB. i've searching for a cheap compressor and the one i found was here: harbor freightlucky for those rj peeps living in the US....i couldn't find a sweeter deal than this.... I do have an airbrush but no compressor right now,I did by testors spraycans gonna go that route.i did magengars Mazinger custom in spraycan.just sanded alot between coats.
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Post by mojacko on Oct 24, 2013 9:02:29 GMT -5
testors or mr hobby/color (if available) spraypaints are meant for hobbyist, thou you can get away with those pylox spray can. the only downside of it is you have minimal control as where as airbrush you can do a lot specialy if you have a dual AB. i've searching for a cheap compressor and the one i found was here: harbor freightlucky for those rj peeps living in the US....i couldn't find a sweeter deal than this.... I do have an airbrush but no compressor right now,I did by testors spraycans gonna go that route.i did magengars Mazinger custom in spraycan.just sanded alot between coats. goodluck and please keep us posted for the progress....
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Post by magengar on Oct 24, 2013 14:59:01 GMT -5
Here is Baron's GX-45 as he custom-painted it. I can't remember Why he painted it red/white, and I'm not gonna change it because of its sentimental value as something unique from a friend and fellow RJ member. I'd cast a resin copy of its parts to make a plastic SOC version of this awesome figure, and leave this one As Is. For just using spray cans, the paint-job on this GX-45 looks soOo Factory-SchwEEt! Again, thank you Baron! Sorry about the bad quality pic. Tonight after I get home from work I will snap a new pic of this Maz now that he's wearing his Jet Scrander. zozo-mag testors or mr hobby/color (if available) spraypaints are meant for hobbyist, thou you can get away with those pylox spray can. the only downside of it is you have minimal control as where as airbrush you can do a lot specialy if you have a dual AB. i've searching for a cheap compressor and the one i found was here: harbor freightlucky for those rj peeps living in the US....i couldn't find a sweeter deal than this.... I do have an airbrush but no compressor right now,I did by testors spraycans gonna go that route.i did magengars Mazinger custom in spraycan.just sanded alot between coats.
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Post by mojacko on Oct 24, 2013 15:18:31 GMT -5
I can't remember Why he painted it red/white, and I'm not gonna change it because of its sentimental value as something unique from a friend and fellow RJ member. I'd cast a resin copy of its parts to make a plastic SOC version of this awesome figure, and leave this one As Is. For just using spray cans, the paint-job on this GX-45 looks soOo Factory-SchwEEt! Again, thank you Baron! Sorry about the bad quality pic. Tonight after I get home from work I will snap a new pic of this Maz now that he's wearing his Jet Scrander. zozo-mag Intriguing....what's with the red & white scheme? did it appear in some of Maz's anime episode ? or perhaps a holiday robo special kinda thing.....
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Post by B- on Oct 24, 2013 18:09:00 GMT -5
Just a custom,I was originally going to do a Captain america themed Mazinger! But I decided not to,and just wanted to do something striking.
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Post by B- on Oct 24, 2013 18:13:13 GMT -5
I ended up getting testors actually they are enamels.I used enamels on teh Maz SOC they work great,as long as a good primer is used Ive read everywhere any paint works well.
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Post by TheMazingerZ on Oct 24, 2013 22:01:14 GMT -5
testors or mr hobby/color (if available) spraypaints are meant for hobbyist, thou you can get away with those pylox spray can. the only downside of it is you have minimal control as where as airbrush you can do a lot specialy if you have a dual AB. i've searching for a cheap compressor and the one i found was here: harbor freightlucky for those rj peeps living in the US....i couldn't find a sweeter deal than this.... I do have an airbrush but no compressor right now,I did by testors spraycans gonna go that route.i did magengars Mazinger custom in spraycan.just sanded alot between coats. FYI... According to the reviews in Harbor Freight, that compressor is not very good. }D
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Post by magengar on Oct 24, 2013 23:54:08 GMT -5
Okay, as promised, here's Baron's custom painted GX-45 wearing his Jet Scrander... First top two pics showing the GX-45 with his Jetto Sukuranda... I friggin LOVE that metallic finish on the Scrander's belt; I wish all the SOCs had been done up consistently with that metallic finish on all the limb/waist parts instead of the stoOopid Chrome-combination-metallic mix of the classic SOCs. Because that's what I wanna do with my GX-02R. In my opinion, die-cast handles enamel paint really well if you sand it and prime it properly. The bottom pic, of course, is some dweebiss actin a Foo with his bigazz mug of COFFEEEEEEEEEE! --------------------- Back on topic........ I generally tend to equate Resin to Plastic, and based on that thought I just go ahead and sand the resin material with fine sandpaper, and then apply the new paint-job with a brush. By sanding the resin surface with Fine sandpaper I'm literally scuffing and scratching the resin surface... this will help the new paint-job adhere to the surface and the enamel will somewhat "dig" its way into the scratchy grooves of the sanded area. Applying the new paint-job:Once the resin surface has been sanded, I quickly rinse the object in tap water to remove the sanding residue and then I use a can of compressed air to blow the sanded surface dry. The jet blast of the compressed air will also blast out any remaining sanded micro dust that had been trapped inside grooves of the sanded surface. By this time the sanded object will also be dried and any micro drop of water will also be blown away by the compressed air. Ready to paint: I gather only the amount of paint I need by pouring some paint into a 3 liter soda-bottle cap and thin the paint with a very light almost-a-drop of paint thinner. If I don't thin the paint, I'd apply the paint directly in extremely thin coats. I dab the tip of a small paint brush with paint and proceed to apply extremely thin coats of the new paint, stroking the paint in one direction. Once the object is fully coated with that first thin coat, I let it dry thoroughly for up to two hours. Then I gently sand the first coat, and apply a thin second coat of paint for complete coverage and let the second coat thoroughly dry. I prefer to paint in very thin coats rather than one thick coat. A thick coat will make the painted surface feel tacky and goopy. Also, brush streaks tend to blend away uniformly under thin coats. Once the new paint-job is done I then place the object suspended on pieces of plastic sticks and place the whole setup underneath a large box or plastic storage bin to protect the painted object from any air-born specs of dust. There's no single technique carved in stone for painting Resin material. However, you can draw reference from hobbyists who have painted their resin objects and have done a very good job prepping the resin surface and applying the paint to it. zozo-mag
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