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Post by blitzkriegomega on Jan 3, 2014 23:43:33 GMT -5
The Mazinger Z from the model is Go Nagai's design. The Shin Mazinger from SRC is Ken Ishikawa's design. They are not identical. As a matter of fact, the only similarity between the two is the little protrution from the chest armor. Other than that, they are way different. For starters, the Nagai Mazinger Z does not have the horrible thunder-thighs/wasp-waist sindrome!  }D I think that's more of a Proportion thing than an actual Design thing...like how SRC Gurren Lagann was designed to look like it was ripped right out of the animation in an off-model moment rather than from any actual lineart. |
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Post by TheMazingerZ on Jan 4, 2014 12:36:40 GMT -5
The designs are different. Ishikawa's are always bigger and fatter (Mazingers, Getters, enemies) than the original Nagai versions. Grendizer never had crazy animations or off-model moments like Gainax may have done with Gurren Lagann, but it was still designed weird in the SRC version.  }D |
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Post by magengar on Jan 4, 2014 12:53:40 GMT -5
...For starters, the Nagai Mazinger Z does not have the horrible thunder-thighs/wasp-waist sindrome! }D  LOL!!!  zozo-mag |
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Post by blitzkriegomega on Jan 4, 2014 20:21:21 GMT -5
okay, that was brilliant Mag. +10!
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Post by magengar on Jan 7, 2014 7:10:25 GMT -5
I don't know where to put this next info, cos I'd like model kit builders and scratchmakers here to see this... ...if your Lighter runs out of fluid, DO NOT toss it in the trash, save it and use it for THIS............... www.starshipmodeler.com/tech/tr_turret.htm....Yep, that's right. Now gather your old Bic lighters, and start havin some Bic FUN! zozo-mag |
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Post by magengar on Jan 12, 2014 19:47:23 GMT -5
Ever since I started using the camera on my Blackberry Torch 9800, my pics have been turning out much better with the help of some ambient lighting/defusing, with and without flash. On that note, this is the first time I've been able to snap very good photos of my Mechanic Collection super-robot model kit Mazinger-Z and I wanna show it off so those of you who have seen it before can have a better look at the custom paint-job and modification repairs I've done to this model kit. Using my photos as reference, I wanna try using the spray-can "Chrome" paint as the next brighter shade of "metallic silver" for my models. I'm not a "Chrome" fan, lol. ( exception: Swords and other bladed toy robot weapons) I've always been a fan of the Silver Metallic finish on robot toys and model kits. If you own any SRC figures, that smooth silver-grayish metal finish ( Not the chrome part) is what I try to imitate, and I use the Rustoleum name-brand metallic silver paint for my models and figures. I apply the metallic silver paint ( un-thinned, straight from the can) with a small brush ( small brush to small figures and objects; large brush for larger objects), and I use a maximum of two thin coats-- First I fine-sand the raw surface of the object, then I apply thin coat #1 as a "primer" and let it fully dry for a couple hours ( six hours at max), then I feather-touch the primed surface with a gentle fine sanding, then I apply the thin coat #2 as a "top coat" and let it fully dry for a full 24 hours. I try not to overlap each brush stroke. Here's a sample of my metallic silver paint-job with my Mechanic Collection super-robot Mazinger-Z model kit, which I painted back in the summer of 2010. I only used the metallic silver on the silver armor parts...  ( All other parts -except the black rubber armor, and the blue rubber fits- and colors
were hand-painted using the same brush technique.
The forearm armor, the lower leg armor, and the feet, were sanded and lightly spray-misted
with two thin coats of of Rustoleum blue spray-paint; and the black panel lines throughout
the model in the joints and the Hover Pilder were drawn in with a fine-point Sharpie marker.
The Z arrow on the Scrander dorsal fin -not shown- was stenciled in with a mist
of Rustoleum red spray-paint.) Here's a few more snapshots with my Blackberry, and by the way, these photos were shot on my custom-built Photo Bench which I discussed in another thread... Under a spotlight lamp, flash OFF... With flash ON... ...flash OFF, back to the spotlight lamp...
I love panel lines on my robots, so I just Haaad to thicken some panel lines
on my MC Maz model. I got carried away with doing the panel lines by hand
with a small Dremel tool bit. lol
Since the time I applied this paint-job, I never had to re-touch up the paint. I've even rinsed the model kit under quick running hot water to wash away dust... ...the paint held up good. If I hadn't fine-sanded all the parts and applied the thin coats in the manner which i had described, this paint-job would have been ruined. Back on topic, now I would like to try using the Spray-can "chrome" paint to see if I can use it as a Brighter imitation of my metallic silver, using my brush-on technique. The only difference is that I would squeeze the spray-can nozzle to "drip" a large deep puddle of the chrome paint into a 4-ounce glass baby-food jar, and stir it to consistency, so that I can apply the chrome with a brush. I'm not looking to achieve the "mirror-finish" smooth chrome look, but I'm looking to achieve a metallic "matte" finish using Chrome as a brighter color than the grayish tone of the silver. If any of you have ever used the Spray-can "chrome" paint, I would like to see some picture samples of it if you have any pics available, or I'll search the net--- --just so I can get an idea of how much brighter the chrome would look in comparison to the metallic silver. No hurries, no worries... Thanks in advance! By the way #2, now I have several more model Bandai kits to build. Among them are the two vintage Bandai Mazingers kits which I got from Bourno for Christmas as part of the Christmas party at Baron's house. I'm anxious to start building the kits and applying these paint techniques!  zozo-mag |
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Post by lexcars2007 on Jan 14, 2014 16:22:38 GMT -5
Super awesome there buddy...ever finish the pilder model  |
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Post by tsamtsam28 on Jan 15, 2014 22:58:54 GMT -5
not my video but i thought this is a pretty cool dairugger kit and build:
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Post by magengar on Jan 17, 2014 2:42:29 GMT -5
Super awesome there buddy...ever finish the pilder model That project has been on haitus forever since almost four summers ago, as far as I can remember. And, I had also gotten lazy over that time, besides going through some personal problems with my health and employment situation. Any leftover un-used resin/mold-making supplies had reached their shelf life and expired (those chemicals were recommended to be used within a year's life span), and had dried up (atmospheric hardening). So, now I'm back to Ze-Ro with no fresh resin/mold-making supplies. As soon as I get a fresh batch of Everything, for the projects intended, I will resume work to finish my custom Pilder. zozo-mag |
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Post by magengar on Jan 17, 2014 2:53:24 GMT -5
Oh man, now that makes me wanna get a Bandai Dairugger-XV model kit! I've seen two Dairugger kits, each a different size, listed on eBay... ...But which kit is bigger, the 1/300 scale or the 1/500 scale? zozo-mag not my video but i thought this is a pretty cool dairugger kit and build: |
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Post by tsamtsam28 on Jan 17, 2014 9:24:47 GMT -5
Oh man, now that makes me wanna get a Bandai Dairugger-XV model kit! I've seen two Dairugger kits, each a different size, listed on eBay... ...But which kit is bigger, the 1/300 scale or the 1/500 scale? zozo-mag the lower the number, the bigger the scale. in this case, 1/300 is the bigger one. 1/1 is always the scale that you strive for...haha |
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Post by magengar on Jan 17, 2014 15:27:31 GMT -5
Oh man, now that makes me wanna get a Bandai Dairugger-XV model kit! I've seen two Dairugger kits, each a different size, listed on eBay... ...But which kit is bigger, the 1/300 scale or the 1/500 scale? zozo-mag the lower the number, the bigger the scale. in this case, 1/300 is the bigger one. I think I see what your saying. This isn't the first time I've asked questions about Scale size. Many other RJers have tried to explain it to me over and over again, but I still can't grasp the concept. I'll get the hang of it if I were more involved in kit building. When I try to do the math ratio thing I get lost and then I gotta try to visualize what I'm looking at as though the object were in my hands. Because when I browse at model kits online, such as these Bandai kits, I see things like "1:400" ...and I'm afraid if I buy a model kit thinking I'm getting
a large 12" model, I'd end up with a small 4" model instead. So, I drew this chart to help me understand how to visualize scale sizes...  ...The black bars represent a model... a model kit of a Voltron, a robot toy, a spaceship toy, a model car, whatever. The 1:1 ratio represents the actual size of the model, in proportion ( the : symbol means proportion, ratio) to the actual object. The number in red is the actual object. The number in yellow would represent the unit of measure for the model. The object could be in Inches or Feet measurments, I don't know. A Voltron model measuring 1:100 scale would be waaay taller than a 1:300 scale model... so, let's say the 1:100 Voltron model is about 12 inches tall and the 1:300 Voltron model is about 8 inches or whatever.... ...and the 1:500 Voltron model is about 4 inches or whatever. lol I should just forget about this whole thing and remember your comment next time I go shopping for model kits: Go for the lowest Scale number to get the biggest kit. By the way... Did I get this chart drawing correct? ( again, Thanks!) zozo-mag |
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Post by supergetterv on Jan 17, 2014 16:16:19 GMT -5
the lower the number, the bigger the scale. in this case, 1/300 is the bigger one. I think I see what your saying. This isn't the first time I've asked questions about Scale size. Many other RJers have tried to explain it to me over and over again, but I still can't grasp the concept. I'll get the hang of it if I were more involved in kit building. When I try to do the math ratio thing I get lost and then I gotta try to visualize what I'm looking at as though the object were in my hands. Because when I browse at model kits online, such as these Bandai kits, I see things like "1:400" ...and I'm afraid if I buy a model kit thinking I'm getting
a large 12" model, I'd end up with a small 4" model instead. So, I drew this chart to help me understand how to visualize scale sizes... ...The black bars represent a model... a model kit of a Voltron, a robot toy, a spaceship toy, a model car, whatever. The 1:1 ratio represents the actual size of the model, in proportion ( the : symbol means proportion, ratio) to the actual object. The number in red is the actual object. The number in yellow would represent the unit of measure for the model. The object could be in Inches or Feet measurments, I don't know. A Voltron model measuring 1:100 scale would be waaay taller than a 1:300 scale model... so, let's say the 1:100 Voltron model is about 12 inches tall and the 1:300 Voltron model is about 8 inches or whatever.... ...and the 1:500 Voltron model is about 4 inches or whatever. lol I should just forget about this whole thing and remember your comment next time I go shopping for model kits: Go for the lowest Scale number to get the biggest kit. By the way... Did I get this chart drawing correct? ( again, Thanks!) zozo-mag Couldn't resist so I have to jump in. Your chart is actually in reverse order. Think of it as shrinking. If you shrink something 300 time then of course it is bigger than something you shrink 500 times. So let's take the 1:1 scale Gundam in Tokyo. In real life that RX-78-2 is 18 meters tall. That's 59 feet. Now a Master Grade RX-78-2 is in 1:100 scale. They shrunk it 100 times. That makes it 18 centimeter tall. 18 cm is roughly 7.5 inches or so. |
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Post by magengar on Jan 17, 2014 16:55:38 GMT -5
..........So, I drew this chart to help me understand how to visualize scale sizes... ..........By the way... Did I get this chart drawing correct? ( again, Thanks!) zozo-mag Couldn't resist so I have to jump in. Your chart is actually in reverse order. Think of it as shrinking. If you shrink something 300 time then of course it is bigger than something you shrink 500 times. So let's take the 1:1 scale Gundam in Tokyo. In real life that RX-78-2 is 18 meters tall. That's 59 feet. Now a Master Grade RX-78-2 is in 1:100 scale. They shrunk it 100 times. That makes it 18 centimeter tall. 18 cm is roughly 7.5 inches or so. So then, That's what they mean by the :whatever-hundred scale... SHRINKING. I see now..... like something of actual size shrunk 100 times. Even stuff shrunk at 24 times (1:24), or six times (1:6, like those human action figures). I'll need to study the metric system as well... we don't use it much here in the U.S. But I can use online metric converters for converting inches to metrics. The way you simplified it as "shrinking" makes perfect sense, and that was the interpretation I had been looking for all this time. Because until now I've read scales and I was screaming stuff like "Yeah, 1:400..... but 400 WHAT?" lol Time for me to stock up on rulers of Inches AND Centimeters, and some Scale rulers as well, so I can measure stuff and practice this math. I'll leave that chart up so anyone else who also wants to know how to do this can see this discussion for reference and read your reply for the help. Thank you Thank you Thank you!!! zozo-mag |
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Post by magengar on Jan 17, 2014 17:18:41 GMT -5
This would be the correct way to look at it then....  I hope I got it right this time. zozo-mag |
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Post by supergetterv on Jan 17, 2014 17:28:36 GMT -5
This would be the correct way to look at it then.... I hope I got it right this time. zozo-mag You got it. The world uses the metric system because it is just easier cause it measure by units of 10. Inches to foot is measure by units of 12 and foot to yard is measure by multiple of 3. Division of inches is measure by units of 16, which is even more confusing. Anyway, let say we are making a action figure of you and you are 6 feet tall. Haven't meet you in person so I wouldn't know but in 1:1 scale, you would be 6 feet tall. A action figure of you in 1:2 scale would be 3 feet tall as I shrink the figure in half. And if I shrink that 1:2 figure in half , then the figure is at 1:4 scale which would be 1 and a half feet or 18 inches tall. So if I take the 1:4 scale figure and shrink that in half, the figure will be 9 inches tall and the scale is 1:8. At 1:16 scale the figure is 4 and half inches. And at 1:32 scale the figure is 2 and 3/4 inches. Roughly the size of small G I joe or star wars action figures. |
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Post by magengar on Jan 17, 2014 17:34:16 GMT -5
This would be the correct way to look at it then.... I hope I got it right this time. zozo-mag
Anyway, let say we are making a action figure of you and you are 6 feet tall. Haven't meet you in person so I wouldn't know but in 1:1 scale, you would be 6 feet tall. A action figure of you in 1:2 scale would be 3 feet tall as I shrink the figure in half. And if I shrink that 1:2 figure in half , then the figure is at 1:4 scale which would be 1 and a half feet or 18 inches tall. So if I take the 1:4 scale figure and shrink that in half, the figure will be 9 inches tall and the scale is 1:8. At 1:16 scale the figure is 4 and half inches. And at 1:32 scale the figure is 2 and 3/4 inches. Roughly the size of small G I joe or star wars action figures. I'm friggin Lovin this!!! Damn, if I didn't have to leave for work right now I'd grab my tape measure and start practicing with my robots and things around the house! BTW, I'm 5' 11". zozo-mag |
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Post by tsamtsam28 on Jan 17, 2014 18:01:05 GMT -5
You got it. The world uses the metric system because it is just easier cause it measure by units of 10. Inches to foot is measure by units of 12 and foot to yard is measure by multiple of 3. Division of inches is measure by units of 16, which is even more confusing.
Anyway, let say we are making a action figure of you and you are 6 feet tall. Haven't meet you in person so I wouldn't know but in 1:1 scale, you would be 6 feet tall. A action figure of you in 1:2 scale would be 3 feet tall as I shrink the figure in half. And if I shrink that 1:2 figure in half , then the figure is at 1:4 scale which would be 1 and a half feet or 18 inches tall. So if I take the 1:4 scale figure and shrink that in half, the figure will be 9 inches tall and the scale is 1:8. At 1:16 scale the figure is 4 and half inches. And at 1:32 scale the figure is 2 and 3/4 inches. Roughly the size of small G I joe or star wars action figures. I'm friggin Lovin this!!! Damn, if I didn't have to leave for work right now I'd grab my tape measure and start practicing with my robots and things around the house! BTW, I'm 5' 11". zozo-mag let's put your new found knowledge to the test. if we want to create a 1/6 scale magengar, how tall with the figure be?  (queue the jeopardy music) |
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Post by magengar on Jan 18, 2014 2:04:00 GMT -5
THANK YOUUUUUUUU!!! DO NOT delete this thread, I'm taking notes! I'm friggin Lovin this!!! Damn, if I didn't have to leave for work right now I'd grab my tape measure and start practicing with my robots and things around the house! BTW, I'm 5' 11". zozo-mag
if we want to create a 1/6 scale magengar,
how tall would the figure be? (queue the jeopardy music) I had just arrived home from work a while ago. Okay! Here goes...... If I could make a 1/6 figure of Me... I'm 5' 11"..... as a 1:2 scale, I divide by 2 and the figure would be 2.5' 5.5" as a 1/4 scale, I divide 2.5' 5.5" by 4 and the figure would be 0.625' 1.375" as a 1/6 scale, I divide 0.625' 1.375" by 6 and the figure would disappear, because it would be so small a friggin germ would Eat it! Doesn't look right. Why don't I just divide 5' 11" by 6...... in 1/6 scale the figure would be 0.83" or .8 inches! Damn... wish I were just 6ft tall just to get all that math over with already! zozo-mag |
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Post by supergetterv on Jan 18, 2014 3:36:12 GMT -5
let's put your new found knowledge to the test.
if we want to create a 1/6 scale magengar,
how tall would the figure be? (queue the jeopardy music) I had just arrived home from work a while ago. Okay! Here goes...... If I could make a 1/6 figure of Me... I'm 5' 11"..... as a 1:2 scale, I divide by 2 and the figure would be 2.5' 5.5" as a 1/4 scale, I divide 2.5' 5.5" by 4 and the figure would be 0.625' 1.375" as a 1/6 scale, I divide 0.625' 1.375" by 6 and the figure would disappear, because it would be so small a friggin germ would Eat it! Doesn't look right. Why don't I just divide 5' 11" by 6...... in 1/6 scale the figure would be 0.83" or .8 inches! Damn... wish I were just 6ft tall just to get all that math over with already! zozo-mag Lol. At 1:6 scale, you would be slightly under 12 inches or 1 foot tall. 6 ft is 72 inches. 5 feet 11 is 71 inches. 71 divided by 6 is 11.833333 inches. Which is slightly bigger than 11 and 3/4 inches. I made a slight error in yesterday's example. A 6 ft tall person at 1:32 scale would be 2 and 1/4 inch tall. Your math of 0.83 inches? If I were to shrink you down to 1:100 scale, you would be 0.71 inches tall. Which is like almost as big as a dime. |
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