Popy Daltanious Question

[crpdiablos]

I just purchased a boxed Japanese Popy Datanious. When I received it I checked for the made in Japan logo and it was absetn it did have all the other marking that a Godaikin Daltanias has. Did popy ever sell these in the Japanese Popy Box without the made in Japan markings? The missles packaging is also slightly different than my other Popy Daltanious. My other one the clear plastic cover is form fit to the missles and my new one does not form fit to the missles.

[Mr. Ginrai]

Maybe it is transition stock or someone swapped in a godaikin version? I have a childhood godaikin daltanias and a mint one owner godaikin daltanias, both are MIB if you want me to check those for reference. If I remember correctly, the godaikin bubbles for the tiny skinny red missiles do not "form fit" in the best way compared to some of the other toys.

[crpdiablos]

Thanks, I was able to compare it to my Daltanias as well and it is a match. I think this was swapped out with the Godaikin. The seller gave me a partial refund which I was happy with but he said he had this since 1982 so either his story is bogus or this is transition stock like you say. It did have the original manual but not the cards. He didn't even question it when I asked for a partial refund which was sizeable almost half of what I paid it was either that or I was gonna snd it back for a full refund. I have heard of these being swapped out before and not too long ago a guy was selling one in the Godaikin Box that was actually the Popy version. In the auction he even stated that he had sold the Godaikin in the popy box by accident which was why he was selling the popy in the Godaikin box. Now the question I have is ..were versions sold that were transition stock and where were these being made?

[Mr. Ginrai]

That's good that you got the $$$ back. I will still check my sets just to be sure, but I am familiar with what you are talking about. It's weird, some figures had the stamping change, but I don't think godmars did from popy to godaikin, for example.

I would say maybe a Taiwan factory?

Check with Brent (xtrlowz75). He may not be sure about the daltanias, but he is pretty familiar with the Taiwan factory that was later (and still is) pumping out the godbot, godtron, and lionbot Taiwan versions.

Repairtechjon may know also.

[admin1 aka Ed]

Pop up a picture when you have time. I found that many Godaikins had "made in Japan' STAMPINGS taken off with a grinder. Then the Godaikins put Stickers on them stating Made in Japan.

I continue to be suspicious that production was outsourced on later Godaikins to Taiwan. Godaikins tended to be assembled from parts with domestic boxes. So partial production in Japan could logically be mixed.

As to the Japanese boxed toy, I would expect a Japanese marking since Daltanious was made around '79 and pre Godaikin times.


Ed

[crpdiablos]

So I checked them out, you can definately see on Gnuper where they have machined out of the mold where it says made in Japan on Atalus it is more difficult to see but you can tell that something used to be there. I can't tell if it was machined out of the mold or ground off of the toy.

Here are some pics. Starting on the left is my near mint Daltanious the box is one of the nicest I've seen, The middle is my Godaikin once again a near mint box and unused toy on the right is the Daltanious in question. I took the comparison photos in that order as well. Of all three only my Minty Daltanious has form fitting missle trays. I believe this is a swap out but still very nice. I will be selling this one so if anyone wants to make me an offer let me know.

[xtrlowz75]

That is a Taiwan version from Bandai (missing Made in Japan). When the Bandai factory moved over to Taiwan in late 1984, the "Made in Japan" was removed from the Bandai toys. Like the later Matchbox Voltron IIIs, they no longer have the "GB-36 Made in Japan" decal, but the "Golion D made in Taiwan" decal. So yes that is a change over Daltanias. Your made in Japan one is the older or more original version. Your lucky as if it was made after 1986 it would have no logos at all, and you would have parts from a Godsphinx, the so called "knockoff" of Daltanias. Though, for repeated info even the later Diecast Metal robots all come from the original Bandai Taiwan factory and original molds with the logos removed. Even a Diecast Metal Lionbot, Godbot, GodTron, Protector, and Godsphinx are still true Bandai chogokins as they are made from the original molds. They just are no longer licensed by Bandai. The current Lionbot today, along with the 1997 Trendmasters diecast Voltron were made using the original Bandai Golion molds with a few slight differences.

[crpdiablos]

Thanks for the information