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Post by Deckard on Apr 29, 2014 1:15:12 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2014 1:51:16 GMT -5
The only prejudice that I perceive here is your constant outlandish claims incinuating that I do not know what I am talking about because I disagree with you.
If you live in the tropics, regardles how hard you try to preserve them, vinyl does degrade faster compared to colder less humid area. I know that for a fact as I lived in Venezuela for 17 years, and I saw it happen to vinyl figures that I and friends of mine had.
As for die-cast crumbling. This happens if you buy cheap knock-offs.
If you buy an original vintage other parts of the toy (mostly plastic) will break before the metal part. Again I know that because I have vintage originals and knock-offs.
Modern toys on the other hand have more intricate designs; therefore some pieces regardles if they are metal or not will break if mishandled.
I am not implying that 3Zero is using low quality materials. But as far as I know all vinyls have a very similar chemical composition. Unless you can provide me a list of all materials used by 3Zero.
As I mentioned before, I am not against good quality plastics. And if they can help the overall design of the toy, they are welcome. So stop making it sound that I am pro metal and against plastics crap, OK.
On more than one occasion, I made it clear that I do not agree on the pricing of a vinyl figure due what I hear how the manufacturing run will cost from various sources.
So if you don't agree that is fine by me. And let's leave it at that.
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Post by Deckard on Apr 29, 2014 2:24:01 GMT -5
The only prejudice that I perceive here is your constant outlandish claims incinuating that I do not know what I am talking about because I disagree with you. If you live in the tropics, regardles how hard you try to preserve them, vinyl does degrade faster compared to colder less humid area. I know that for a fact as I lived in Venezuela for 17 years, and I saw it happen to vinyl figures that I and friends of mine had. As for die-cast crumbling. This happens if you buy cheap knock-offs. If you buy an original vintage other parts of the toy (mostly plastic) will break before the metal part. Again I know that because I have vintage originals and knock-offs. Modern toys on the other hand have more intricate designs; therefore some pieces regardles if they are metal or not will break if mishandled. I am not implying that 3Zero is using low quality materials. But as far as I know all vinyls have a very similar chemical composition. Unless you can provide me a list of all materials used by 3Zero. As I mentioned before, I am not against good quality plastics. And if they can help the overall design of the toy, they are welcome. So stop making it sound that I am pro metal and against plastics crap, OK. On more than one occasion, I made it clear that I do not agree on the pricing of a vinyl figure due what I hear how the manufacturing run will cost from various sources. So if you don't agree that is fine by me. And let's leave it at that. Please don't accuse me of making "outlandish claims" and "insinuations" because of a lack of comprehension on your part. Your responses to my prior comments were irrelevant, and thus they were politely pointed out to you. You are blindly reading my comments, and then jumping to conclusions in your responses. Sorry for my cutting comments, but I don't appreciate baseless accusations... I'm done here... Anyways, all that crap aside, and I'll understand if you don't want to answer this... But what type of vinyl toys did you have in Venezuela? I own 40yr old Japanese sofubi that's doing just fine, and I live in a city with hot and humid summers... And let's not forget the weather where these toys come from, Tokyo's summer is horrid. |
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Post by magengar on Apr 29, 2014 3:13:31 GMT -5
If I break the news to my LeReve Mazinger and Yamato vinyl Grendizer, they will cry. zozo-mag Sorry Mage, don,t mean to be a preachy Debbie downer.. But you know I'm the resident "green" nerd. Honestly I also have many Mcfarlanes and obviously most if not all the gokin I have do have PVC... So I'm in the same boat. I have to raise the issue when it comes up. Please blame CFF for bring it up  I don't buy all PVC or all vinyl figures anymore. I don't care how cool or limited they are. It's just not worth the risk for me. No worries here, I understand. I had no idea that the vinyl material in toys could pose such an environmental hazard. I love my vinyl figures, but I also know that vinyl won't last forever and I'll have to figure out a way to properly dispose of it so it won't add to the environmental damage. zozo-mag |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2014 11:46:08 GMT -5
The only prejudice that I perceive here is your constant outlandish claims incinuating that I do not know what I am talking about because I disagree with you. If you live in the tropics, regardles how hard you try to preserve them, vinyl does degrade faster compared to colder less humid area. I know that for a fact as I lived in Venezuela for 17 years, and I saw it happen to vinyl figures that I and friends of mine had. As for die-cast crumbling. This happens if you buy cheap knock-offs. If you buy an original vintage other parts of the toy (mostly plastic) will break before the metal part. Again I know that because I have vintage originals and knock-offs. Modern toys on the other hand have more intricate designs; therefore some pieces regardles if they are metal or not will break if mishandled. I am not implying that 3Zero is using low quality materials. But as far as I know all vinyls have a very similar chemical composition. Unless you can provide me a list of all materials used by 3Zero. As I mentioned before, I am not against good quality plastics. And if they can help the overall design of the toy, they are welcome. So stop making it sound that I am pro metal and against plastics crap, OK. On more than one occasion, I made it clear that I do not agree on the pricing of a vinyl figure due what I hear how the manufacturing run will cost from various sources. So if you don't agree that is fine by me. And let's leave it at that. Please don't accuse me of making "outlandish claims" and "insinuations" because of a lack of comprehension on your part. Your responses to my prior comments were irrelevant, and thus they were politely pointed out to you. You are blindly reading my comments, and then jumping to conclusions in your responses. Sorry for my cutting comments, but I don't appreciate baseless accusations... I'm done here... Anyways, all that crap aside, and I'll understand if you don't want to answer this... But what type of vinyl toys did you have in Venezuela? I own 40yr old Japanese sofubi that's doing just fine, and I live in a city with hot and humid summers... And let's not forget the weather where these toys come from, Tokyo's summer is horrid. I could come back to you on that one, but I rather not. At least we can agree on something, as I am done with you. |
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Post by greengetterguy on Apr 29, 2014 12:49:06 GMT -5
Sorry Mage, don,t mean to be a preachy Debbie downer.. But you know I'm the resident "green" nerd. Honestly I also have many Mcfarlanes and obviously most if not all the gokin I have do have PVC... So I'm in the same boat. I have to raise the issue when it comes up. Please blame CFF for bring it up I don't buy all PVC or all vinyl figures anymore. I don't care how cool or limited they are. It's just not worth the risk for me. No worries here, I understand. I had no idea that the vinyl material in toys could pose such an environmental hazard. I love my vinyl figures, but I also know that vinyl won't last forever and I'll have to figure out a way to properly dispose of it so it won't add to the environmental damage. zozo-mag Hi Mage. There no way to properly dispose of vinyl as far as i know.... Its just best not to buy them in the first place. So I would just enjoy what you have behind air sealed display glass enclosure like Baron and air out your place with opened windows once in a while which we do anyway. Oh and wash your hands when you handled them. and when you're finally done just double bag it in zip lock and toss them in garbage. They won't be recycled as its not a recyclable plastic...or you can ebay it let someone else deal with it. In the end it will indirectly poison someone all the same. it will all end up in ground water. Sealed double bagging is what EPA would suggest doing anyway. That's how they want lead painted objects handled too..  I know, lame but short of shooting to the sun or dropping it in the black hole, theres no permanent safe solution. |
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Post by TheMazingerZ on Apr 29, 2014 16:06:03 GMT -5
Well, the Sun rays are pretty harmful to humans as well.  Actually, everything in extremes is very harmful to humans and other living things. Moderation is the key. }D |
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Post by greengetterguy on Apr 29, 2014 17:29:30 GMT -5
Yeah that why I'm still in the hobby although there,re are PVC parts and the risk of even minute amount of lead might be present in metal parts...
I wish I were in different hobby but I can,t. But even my wife,s hobby a flower arrangement has its poison pit fall. The green foam for flower arrangement?
Yup, a carcinogen. You thought styro was bad, sticky fine powdery green foam particle everywhere! Aren,t human great?
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Post by magengar on Apr 29, 2014 22:16:54 GMT -5
No worries here, I understand. I had no idea that the vinyl material in toys could pose such an environmental hazard. I love my vinyl figures, but I also know that vinyl won't last forever and I'll have to figure out a way to properly dispose of it so it won't add to the environmental damage. zozo-mag Hi Mage. There no way to properly dispose of vinyl as far as i know.... Its just best not to buy them in the first place. So I would just enjoy what you have behind air sealed display glass enclosure like Baron and air out your place with opened windows once in a while which we do anyway. Oh and wash your hands when you handled them. and when you're finally done just double bag it in zip lock and toss them in garbage. They won't be recycled as its not a recyclable plastic...or you can ebay it let someone else deal with it. In the end it will indirectly poison someone all the same. it will all end up in ground water. Sealed double bagging is what EPA would suggest doing anyway. That's how they want lead painted objects handled too.. I know, lame but short of shooting to the sun or dropping it in the black hole, theres no permanent safe solution. I could never do that to my LeReve Mazinger and my Yamato Grendy... well, I could try copying them as resin statues, and then ebay them. I'll just hold on to them as long as I can, I like 'em too much to get rid of them like that.  zozo-mag |
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Post by chogokinsnake on Apr 30, 2014 0:40:06 GMT -5
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Post by xiombarg on Apr 30, 2014 1:19:38 GMT -5
Its good to finally see a face forward shot, but it really confirms that this isn't for me.
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Post by Deckard on Apr 30, 2014 2:40:23 GMT -5
Thanks for the pic.
Threezero has totally nailed the "real robot" aesthetic. Mazinger Z as a grimy, mechanical war machine, that's barely getting down-time for repairs to it's ravaged chassis... awesome! And it's also appropriate, seeing as Mazinger Z frequently gets mutilated in the fiction. I see why Go Nagai gave this his blessing.
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Post by magengar on Apr 30, 2014 21:53:11 GMT -5
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Post by magengar on May 1, 2014 5:26:54 GMT -5
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Post by Deckard on May 1, 2014 8:38:02 GMT -5
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Post by droutmaster on May 1, 2014 18:34:31 GMT -5
thats pretty cool, so it does have a light feature.
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Post by greengetterguy on May 1, 2014 19:48:45 GMT -5
I'm happy for those who are getting this.
The lit eyes are very cool. The orange lit eye looks really classy.
As usual ThreeA standard, The paint app and color choice is superb!
I'm done thread crappying on this guy. Def difference in opinion but that's what makes this world go around.
Different strokes for different folks as they say...
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Post by xiombarg on May 1, 2014 21:55:42 GMT -5
I really like the hands.
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Post by Dead-Man on May 8, 2014 8:54:40 GMT -5
Review by JoshB @ CollectionDX
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Post by xiombarg on May 8, 2014 11:33:27 GMT -5
The working pistons on the hips are freaking cool, but I especially love the hands. The joints look fairly tight probably due to the size of the pins and the thickness of the fingers, but very cool.
I wouldn't mind if they would have put a little more black paint in the grill on the face, and some eyeliner around the eyes. Other than that I think is does a great job in accomplishing it's goals. Looks solid and well crafted.
Not my cup of tea overall, but I totally respect what this design is doing. I actually really hope to see more robots in this design idea.
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