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Post by Falconhood on Jul 30, 2006 6:14:15 GMT -5
Robotech: Lancer's VFA-6I, Volume 3 www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=4329360i have always wanted this toy, back when Robotech disappeared, ...the originals sell for hundreds of $ on eBAY. Robotech Lancer's VFA-6I is being sold at walmart.com! is it worth $79.88? |
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Post by Ben-Ohki on Jul 30, 2006 9:24:40 GMT -5
Not worth that much... This is the recent "Masterpiece Collection" by Toynami. And about $80 is the normal list-price when it was first released only a few years ago. I'm sure if you poke around eBay a bit and look for "Toynami MPC Alpha" you'll save $20 or so.
Actually this is pretty sad - when Toynami first marketted the MPC series it was such a big deal... numbered limited edition for collectors... and now they're at Wal-mart? Bleah.
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Post by *UltimateGaoJP* on Jul 30, 2006 10:54:22 GMT -5
Wasn't this Rands?
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Post by Omni Existence on Jul 30, 2006 12:02:37 GMT -5
Actually this is pretty sad - when Toynami first marketted the MPC series it was such a big deal... numbered limited edition for collectors... and now they're at Wal-mart? Bleah. Well, if you claim that your product is an ORIGINAL SCULPT and come up with an enlarged replica of a 20 year old Bandai HCM Valk sculpt instead, then a few days before the release of the items you announce that you reduced the amount of diecast from the actual content the toy should have... you're bound to have your product end up in the 30%-50% marked down SALE isle of Walmart. Karma... is that what it's called? ;D |
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Post by lurkerx on Jul 31, 2006 13:24:25 GMT -5
If I was more of an avid fan of the mospeada series I'd go for the original 1/35 gakken versions as they're both bigger and sturdier than the MPC alphas
However, I'm not and I just wanted some alpha veritechs so I went for the MPC's overall its looks and details aren't bad if you can get over the brush stroke marks and other paint issues. Actually I may even go so far as to say that they're better detailed than the gakkens.
The QC problems are another story there's quite a bit to list that I've experienced that I don't feel like re-typing over again. The words fragile and breakable comes to mind.
I got all 4 for about that @ $70 each. oh and that wal-mart price is regular, if you want it cheaper go to ebay perhaps you may find someone trying to get rid of his.
are they worth that?
To me they are as it satisfied my alpha cravings for the price of 1 gakken 1/35 MIB .
on top of that the beta's for these may be down the pipes soon [if the project hasn't been killed off already].
Plus I really dig the shadow alpha
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Post by mayita on Jul 31, 2006 15:51:52 GMT -5
i think that there is no way near that the mpc alphas can compete against the 1/35 gakkens , the gakkens are stronger and very detail toys (those are the ones i really love)
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Post by Falconhood on Aug 2, 2006 6:10:01 GMT -5
the Gakkens are the guys on the motorcycles that become armor...right? how much are those? how many are there available?
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Post by Ben-Ohki on Aug 2, 2006 7:46:16 GMT -5
Not quite, Gakken was a brand known for having made a huge 1/35 scale transformating version of the Legios (or Robotech Alpha)... But yes, there was also a transforming toy of the Mospeda armour also... here's a picture of one: www.toyboxdx.com/g-20cyclone.htmlIIRC, matchbox brought a FEW of these over when Robotech was made... but they haven't been seen since. |
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Post by thebigr on Aug 2, 2006 17:44:01 GMT -5
a complete Loose 12"(?) Armor Cycle should run you about $80-100, depending on condition, but with no broken parts.
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Post by howieh on Aug 7, 2006 10:50:03 GMT -5
One of my all-time favorite toys was a green Gakken Alpha. I still have the pilot figure. The toy was long gone...Until I was able to get a used one recently. Nice, tight clicky joints and the landing gears that would hurt your nails if you held your fingers too close.
Ah...memories!
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Post by mayita on Aug 7, 2006 20:46:24 GMT -5
One of my all-time favorite toys was a green Gakken Alpha. I still have the pilot figure. The toy was long gone...Until I was able to get a used one recently. Nice, tight clicky joints and the landing gears that would hurt your nails if you held your fingers too close. Ah...memories! I agree the old alphas were one of the best toys i ever had |
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Post by Falconhood on Aug 8, 2006 19:11:26 GMT -5
but are the MasterPiece Alphas worth it?
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Post by lurkerx on Aug 8, 2006 21:01:03 GMT -5
If you want something huge and sturdy and you're willing to spit out about $350 for a decent rendition of one then the gakkens are the way to go. If not and you just want a decent looking transformable alpha the the MPCs are your way out. It really depends on what you are looking for I'd compare the MPC alphas to the 1/60 Yamato VF-1 or the YF-19 in terms of quality and detail. I really think that it's asthetically prettier than the gakkens It's also got a lot of die-cast, but they are troublesome. As expected the Shadow Alpha has the least amount of problems actually It's the only one out of the 4 I don't have a quality issue with on top of that I like its looks the best  |
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Post by alisama on Aug 23, 2006 22:19:37 GMT -5
i really liked the mpc alpha. I have all 4 of them. I also own a red gakken and i like the mpc more.
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Post by howieh on Aug 24, 2006 6:07:15 GMT -5
Eh, the MPC is only so-so for me. It's nice and detailed and way heavy but the subtle (and sometimes not so subtle) production problems really plagues what would otherwise be a fantastic toy. Despite the Gakken one being light and simple, there is a comfortable feeling one gets when playing with it. Almost Zen-like.  |
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Post by thebigr on Sept 3, 2006 10:49:35 GMT -5
i've got one MPC alpha, and i've had all the double-change mid size Gakken Alpha's (diecast!)
i would say save your money, especially if you're in the US. for the price of 2 MPC alphas, with sloppy paint, bad QC, and loose connection joints in all three molds, you could get a c6+ MIB Gakken, which have been popping up pretty frequently on ebay the last 6 months or so.
it's all about what hassles you want to deal with:
with a Gakken- expensive, sometimes fragile, if you're paying less than $400+ for one you probably have a slightly beat up incomplete toy, cheaper ones (under $150) are usually pretty broken.
it will display great, hold its value or increase, and i will envy you for having one.
with a Toynami- Wildly inconsistant paint and QC, you probably will have a broken piece if you force any part too much (let's put it this way- mine is more fragile than my Yamato 1:48 Valk), the hands don't fold all the way in, the jet mode is a little sloppy, in robot mode the knees flop around (there is a sliding knee cap that just can't support the weight of all the diecast), and it frequently drops its gun in any mode.
you would also be supporting the most scumbag of companies to touch a robot anime. besides giving us bad QC and cheap almost-model-kit plastic for a $70+ item, they're NOT making a Beta, and just re-hashing their molds for their new MACROSS valks.
but if you have all the other MPCs you will have a nice in-scale set of robots, the detailing & sculpt is great, posability is good, and the box is super durable and really great for storage. plus its US item so no high import costs or YJ! fees.
i own one MPC and im not getting another. i plan on getting a Gakken soon.
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Post by lurkerx on Sept 8, 2006 16:13:10 GMT -5
you're right about the associated QC hassles with the MPC but lets not forget you would've experienced the same amount of hassles if not more with initial yamato products such as the VF-1 1/60s as well as the 1/72 Macross Plus Valks
so over all it evens out.
I really should stop defending toynami, not too crazy about them. I just think for my purpose the MPCs are a better buy than the 1/35 gakkens [IMHO]
Didn't even consider gakken's 1/55 Alphas as they're not asthetically pleasing to me.
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Post by Ben-Ohki on Sept 9, 2006 9:38:30 GMT -5
But over the course of time and experience, Yamato's QC issues gradually faded away - their last serious "batch" complaint was the early 1/48 scale Roy Fokker VF-1S of which almost all the pieces in that run had crooked skulls printed on their stabilizers. And that was years ago. Toynami on the other hand has been around for at least 4 years now... and they haven't produced a complaint-free MPC product. The only thing they've been good at are small-fry items like the gashapon-styled PVC figures, etc...
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Post by mayita on Sept 9, 2006 13:00:57 GMT -5
i would say that old school items are better , there is no way that the new alphas are better in any way than the 1/35 gakken
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