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Post by KumaStyle.com (TJ) on Mar 26, 2015 2:30:39 GMT -5
less excitement doesn't mean lost of interest i bought stuff with zero excitement but i did it just for the heck of it you used to work for marketing and sales ? i dont know what you were selling but your approach is wrong bro you never say no to a customer because thats totally not professional not mention its rude plus you dont know what will make them buy some people buy a product just because colors not features and why we are talking in general ? do you work for First Gokin ? its just a box of a toy if you are going to act secretly about it after couple of weeks im sure other people will share  - "Never saying no" to a customer is not a real rule and actually one of the first things you're taught against. It's unprofessional because it leads to false promises and unrealistic expectations on the customer's end. Overall bad rapport building. You have no idea of what you're talking about. - "Why are we talking in general" - You tell me: You're the one who can't accept no. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Msg'd supergetter and CFF re: Boxart. |
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Post by KumaStyle.com (TJ) on Mar 26, 2015 3:44:52 GMT -5
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Post by S_Gokin on Mar 26, 2015 10:11:53 GMT -5
less excitement doesn't mean lost of interest i bought stuff with zero excitement but i did it just for the heck of it you used to work for marketing and sales ? i dont know what you were selling but your approach is wrong bro you never say no to a customer because thats totally not professional not mention its rude plus you dont know what will make them buy some people buy a product just because colors not features and why we are talking in general ? do you work for First Gokin ? its just a box of a toy if you are going to act secretly about it after couple of weeks im sure other people will share - "Never saying no" to a customer is not a real rule and actually one of the first things you're taught against. It's unprofessional because it leads to false promises and unrealistic expectations on the customer's end. Overall bad rapport building. You have no idea of what you're talking about. - "Why are we talking in general" - You tell me: You're the one who can't accept no. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Msg'd supergetter and CFF re: Boxart. Not a real rule by who ? and i dont know what im talking about ? FYI i have a bachelor degree in that field so you are the one who dont know what hes talking about, you always go the extra mile with the customer because like i said before you never know what make people buy and i can accept any thing, but honestly if you were working with First Gokin i wouldnt buy any thing from them because you are giving me an attitude over a box and thats just rude, what will happen if i have a real problem with the item ? |
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Post by supergetterv on Mar 26, 2015 11:24:27 GMT -5
Not a real rule by who ? and i dont know what im talking about ? FYI i have a bachelor degree in that field so you are the one who dont know what hes talking about, you always go the extra mile with the customer because like i said before you never know what make people buy and i can accept any thing, but honestly if you were working with First Gokin i wouldnt buy any thing from them because you are giving me an attitude over a box and thats just rude, what will happen if i have a real problem with the item ? Calm down. There is no box. They have not created the packaging, manual etc... If you read the post carefully or watched the review, perhaps you are a New to collecting and don't understand that pre production sample has no box no packaging. This is a test shot, sent to reviewers to promote and advertise. The company also wants feedback on what can be improved before they go ahead with final production. They haven't even come up with a name for the product so how can they have a box? |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2015 12:14:05 GMT -5
And keep in mind that if there ever was a box, the manufacturer might ask the reviewer to not show it because it is not final.
Also this is a third party group, making an unofficial product, so they want to keep things on the down-low and do not want to set up both Playmates and Nickelodeon radars.
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Post by KumaStyle.com (TJ) on Mar 26, 2015 13:15:37 GMT -5
Thank you SGV/CFF
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Post by S_Gokin on Mar 26, 2015 15:13:50 GMT -5
Not a real rule by who ? and i dont know what im talking about ? FYI i have a bachelor degree in that field so you are the one who dont know what hes talking about, you always go the extra mile with the customer because like i said before you never know what make people buy and i can accept any thing, but honestly if you were working with First Gokin i wouldnt buy any thing from them because you are giving me an attitude over a box and thats just rude, what will happen if i have a real problem with the item ? Calm down. There is no box. They have not created the packaging, manual etc... If you read the post carefully or watched the review, perhaps you are a New to collecting and don't understand that pre production sample has no box no packaging. This is a test shot, sent to reviewers to promote and advertise. The company also wants feedback on what can be improved before they go ahead with final production. They haven't even come up with a name for the product so how can they have a box? clam down im not even typing with caps on lol Before you star imaging things about me or my understand read my posts then start talking trust me i understand more than both of you and just because im kinda new here that’s doesn’t mean im a new collector or I don’t know how manufacturers market their products I don’t think you were here in the past 3 months because I was participating a lot in the MT KOB thread BOTH of the threads I know how things go, and I watched his review he didn’t mention any thing about the box so I thought maybe he didn’t shot it yet that’s why I asked him instead of answering me I don’t have it or I cant share it, he just give me an attitude! And gave me his idea how to market things! And keep in mind that if there ever was a box, the manufacturer might ask the reviewer to not show it because it is not final. Also this is a third party group, making an unofficial product, so they want to keep things on the down-low and do not want to set up both Playmates and Nickelodeon radars. ok cff I understand your point man but you said it they might say no but they might say yes as well, when josh reviewed the KOB he showed us the full box and you know that product wasn’t licensed also when he reviewed ThreeZero Mazinger Z he said I don’t have the box because this unit is a sample , simple as that with no drama |
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Post by supergetterv on Mar 26, 2015 15:34:59 GMT -5
I have No interest in the KoB so I didn't post in that thread of pay much attention to it. You want to talk assumptions? How do you know I wasn't around this forum 3 months ago. I don't post much here on threads cause a lot of the stuff here don't interest me. I like some super robot stuff but the majority of it do nothing for me. all I can say is watch more video 3rd Party Transformers reviews from reviewers like Peaugh, Vangelus, Optimbotimus, Kumastyle and emgo316. Then you will see that in most cases, the pre production unit come in regular brown boxes wrapped in bubble wrap. You know manufacturing but do you know that when 3rd party unlicense products are ship to reviewers there is no official packaging and production box? Well, now you know.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2015 16:20:42 GMT -5
And keep in mind that if there ever was a box, the manufacturer might ask the reviewer to not show it because it is not final. Also this is a third party group, making an unofficial product, so they want to keep things on the down-low and do not want to set up both Playmates and Nickelodeon radars. ok cff I understand your point man but you said it they might say no but they might say yes as well, when josh reviewed the KOB he showed us the full box and you know that product wasn’t licensed also when he reviewed ThreeZero Mazinger Z he said I don’t have the box because this unit is a sample , simple as that with no drama [/quote] Yes, Josh got the green light for his review. And we all know what happened between Mad Toys and WEP after that review.  |
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Post by KumaStyle.com (TJ) on Mar 26, 2015 19:25:33 GMT -5
I don’t think you were here in the past 3 months because I was participating a lot in the MT KOB thread BOTH of the threads I know how things go, and I watched his review he didn’t mention any thing about the box so I thought maybe he didn’t shot it yet that’s why I asked him instead of answering me I don’t have it or I cant share it, he just give me an attitude! And gave me his idea how to market things! ok cff I understand your point man but you said it they might say no but they might say yes as well, when josh reviewed the KOB he showed us the full box and you know that product wasn’t licensed also when he reviewed ThreeZero Mazinger Z he said I don’t have the box because this unit is a sample , simple as that with no drama - Please be truthful. All I said was a simple "No" and that's when YOU took offense for whatever reason and continued to run your mouth. I didn't say anything about how to market things until you stated that "the customer is always right" which your posts alone are case-and-point as to why that's a very false statement in general. If someone simply saying "no" to you puts your undies in a bunch, then that's a personal problem. I've said off-thread why the current box/art hasn't been shown and doe public I'll leave it at it simply being "overboard" in terms of infringement. It's not even worth putting it out there to come up in a google search. |
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Post by kamenrider on Mar 27, 2015 8:08:34 GMT -5
Guys can we get back on topic of the figure. Thanks for the review of the figure TJ. Quick question do you have the Neca turtles by any chance? Reason is I don't have the classic turtles and wondering how they scale with the Big guy.
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Post by S_Gokin on Mar 27, 2015 10:50:06 GMT -5
I have No interest in the KoB so I didn't post in that thread of pay much attention to it. You want to talk assumptions? How do you know I wasn't around this forum 3 months ago. I don't post much here on threads cause a lot of the stuff here don't interest me. I like some super robot stuff but the majority of it do nothing for me. all I can say is watch more video 3rd Party Transformers reviews from reviewers like Peaugh, Vangelus, Optimbotimus, Kumastyle and emgo316. Then you will see that in most cases, the pre production unit come in regular brown boxes wrapped in bubble wrap. You know manufacturing but do you know that when 3rd party unlicense products are ship to reviewers there is no official packaging and production box? Well, now you know. Because most of the members on the forum were on hype for KOB so i thought at least you saw a couple of pages In this hobby everyone have his own unique taste and with all respect to the people you mentioned I didn’t watch any of them except for Kuma and it was long long time ago and im not into transformers honestly im more into classic super robots Are reading my post or you just type man fc I knEw about 3 rd party toys and 3 rd party companies; they are not just in toys they are doing everything since ever and still will do it And keep in mind that if there ever was a box, the manufacturer might ask the reviewer to not show it because it is not final. Also this is a third party group, making an unofficial product, so they want to keep things on the down-low and do not want to set up both Playmates and Nickelodeon radars. ok cff I understand your point man but you said it they might say no but they might say yes as well, when josh reviewed the KOB he showed us the full box and you know that product wasn’t licensed also when he reviewed ThreeZero Mazinger Z he said I don’t have the box because this unit is a sample , simple as that with no drama Yes, Josh got the green light for his review. And we all know what happened between Mad Toys and WEP after that review. [/quote] Yea it was an action movie lol but still a happy ending for us I don’t think you were here in the past 3 months because I was participating a lot in the MT KOB thread BOTH of the threads I know how things go, and I watched his review he didn’t mention any thing about the box so I thought maybe he didn’t shot it yet that’s why I asked him instead of answering me I don’t have it or I cant share it, he just give me an attitude! And gave me his idea how to market things! ok cff I understand your point man but you said it they might say no but they might say yes as well, when josh reviewed the KOB he showed us the full box and you know that product wasn’t licensed also when he reviewed ThreeZero Mazinger Z he said I don’t have the box because this unit is a sample , simple as that with no drama - Please be truthful. All I said was a simple "No" and that's when YOU took offense for whatever reason and continued to run your mouth. I didn't say anything about how to market things until you stated that "the customer is always right" which your posts alone are case-and-point as to why that's a very false statement in general. If someone simply saying "no" to you puts your undies in a bunch, then that's a personal problem. I've said off-thread why the current box/art hasn't been shown and doe public I'll leave it at it simply being "overboard" in terms of infringement. It's not even worth putting it out there to come up in a google search. Im been truthful Please go and read my post, I took it as an offence because it was rude man you didn’t say why and I thought you had the box but you won’t share it with me because I got *less excited* about the toy You said and here i was correcting you because that is just wrong and I never said the customer is always right please don’t quote my words wrong I said never say no to a customer and always go the extra mile with them If you said it off thread how should I know about it ? |
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Post by S_Gokin on Mar 27, 2015 10:50:39 GMT -5
Guys can we get back on topic of the figure. Thanks for the review of the figure TJ. Quick question do you have the Neca turtles by any chance? Reason is I don't have the classic turtles and wondering how they scale with the Big guy. sorry bro for me its hard to look the other side  |
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Post by KumaStyle.com (TJ) on Mar 27, 2015 11:07:08 GMT -5
S_Gokin - Thanks for saying why you were confused. I understand much better now. I simply thought you got mad at being told no in general which is nuts. If the box/art was showable, it'd definitely have been shown, but yea... it's rough. Guys can we get back on topic of the figure. Thanks for the review of the figure TJ. Quick question do you have the Neca turtles by any chance? Reason is I don't have the classic turtles and wondering how they scale with the Big guy. Unfortunately I don't own the Neca comic ones. I've been asked multiple times now so I'm going to check with locals to see if anyone has a set I can borrow for a pic. |
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Post by supergetterv on Mar 27, 2015 11:34:56 GMT -5
Yes, I've read your post and you were unhappy with the answer no. And you continue to post off topic rant about business. My subsequent post, all I have been trying to say to you is that there is no box. That's why it wasn't shown in the video review and also not in the pictorial review. They have not create box/packing etc... Because they have not decide on a name for the figure. I said to watch more YouTube review because the reviewers that I have mentioned have all done reviews of 3rd party pre production products. In some of those reviews, they show that it's in regular brown shipping box and are wrapped in bubble. It's not because they don't want to share, it just there is no box to show. I can't be more blunt about this.
And again, the assumption that I didn't read the MadToy King of Beast thread. I didn't post much on that thread because I had no intention or interest in buying that voltron, but I do know about that Gokin. What they did was kind of backwards in that they were more focus on getting and selling the product before it was ready. My speculation, likely cause WEP was going after them and they didn't want to cease the pre sales. Usually, companies, they don't make the packaging for test shots. Packaging is the last step when final production are made and ready to go out. if you want to believe that they were successful selling only to a small number of people, I am not stopping you. But they could have been more successful had they done stuff differently and stay out of the radar. Then Perhaps, more retailers would have been able to carry it instead of a select few.
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Post by gravewolf on Mar 27, 2015 11:47:18 GMT -5
This is a really good looking Krang figure. If I find one here one our local shops I might be tempted to buy one. Kuma really took great pics and I'll put all the blame on him if I buy this figure |
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Post by chogokinabdul on Mar 28, 2015 1:18:16 GMT -5
This krang is what I have been waiting for the longest time. The point though why is it a modern take on the character? It feels great but it is not anime accurate! Is it officially licensed product?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2015 1:55:46 GMT -5
This krang is what I have been waiting for the longest time. The point though why is it a modern take on the character? It feels great but it is not anime accurate! Is it officially licensed product? No, it is not an official product. |
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Post by supergetterv on Mar 28, 2015 2:01:15 GMT -5
This krang is what I have been waiting for the longest time. The point though why is it a modern take on the character? It feels great but it is not anime accurate! Is it officially licensed product? Not official, that's why there is no name for it really. We recognize what it is but due to it being unlicensed, shouldn't use the real name. They kind of have to add a touch of modern take on the design and Not entirely toon accurate for 2 reasons. Enhance the original design and two, maybe it's their way of saying it's not what it is because it somewhat different and not just a straight IP theft/ripoff. The company that made this made the SD lion Voltron a couple years back and used the name Goraion. That Goraion project was purchased/contracted by Toynami and is now officially licensed. Perhaps Playmate will approach them and offer them a deal in the future. Anyway, I have zero Ninja Turtle figures in my collection but I will be getting this. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2015 2:03:15 GMT -5
They also made a non-licensed SD Godmars.
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