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Post by Gold on Feb 24, 2016 11:57:15 GMT -5
Finally! A properly subtitled SRW OG game for the consoles!
Gold
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Post by greengetterguy on Feb 24, 2016 14:24:03 GMT -5
Awesome......with this and FF 7 remake
Its a sign i FINALLY get a PS4.....
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Post by krimpov on Mar 7, 2016 21:10:53 GMT -5
Eh? OG 1 and 2 for GameBoy Advance were not properly/officially translated?
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Post by droutmaster on Mar 8, 2016 18:01:36 GMT -5
Eh? OG 1 and 2 for GameBoy Advance were not properly/officially translated? yes they where, both got released by atlus. i was very surpise to see a SRWOG game here for the western side. as for this new SRW game is it really an official translation and will it officially come to the western side thats beg the quaetion. |
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Post by greengetterguy on Mar 8, 2016 21:06:59 GMT -5
Id love to see legitamate one with all our beloved classic robots before i die.
..........It could happen
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Post by cmal on Mar 9, 2016 7:38:59 GMT -5
Most modern consoles aren't region-locked, so an official English-language Asia release is sort of a workaround from having to deal with publishing in NA and Europe. And let's face it, SRW, even the non-licensing nightmare OG series, is pretty niche and doesn't really warrant that kind of hell. Basically anyone who'd be interested would have experience importing things. Hopefully, this will become the norm and maybe one day in the near future we'll get a mainline SRW with an English Asia release.
Add me to the "Buying a PS4 For This" Club. Originally, I was gonna buy a Vita for Gundam Breaker 3, but then I heard this got announced too, so, like, yeah. I've been meaning to get a BD player, anyway...
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Post by krimpov on Mar 9, 2016 16:18:09 GMT -5
Just trying to find out who owns each local and international licenses needed to bring over a "regular" Super Robot Wars game to America and make sure no one else can pop out of nowhere to throw a wrench in the gears (hello Harmony Gold!) must be a complete nightmare. And that's even before all the dealings and business talks. The jerks who owns the rights to that one little property and will ask for a ridiculous compensation because they know that project won't happen without them.
They'd probably need to secure the rights for the North American market before starting production on the game in Japan. So they'd know which licenses they can include. Maybe that would get some potential troublemakers to play a little nicer, knowing that if they don't want to be reasonable the game will just be made without them.
But even if all the cards are in place for an English release, that may be still too risky. Maybe if they get most licenses for next to nothing. We get a surprising number of niche games from the likes of Atlus and Xseed, bust most of these are original IPs, or involve only one or two entities to deal with for the rights. A American Super Robot Wars game would be a game in a niche genre, with a large number of niche licenses and loads of text lines to translate. From a business perspective, that must be quite scary. I mean, other than Evangelion and Gundam, which robot licenses could be considered big names in America? We got a few Gundam games, but did we even get one Evangelion game? I don't remember. (Not that it's a big loss, though. Those I saw looked passable at best.) Gurren Lagann has a relatively big following, but it might not even be enough. Macross, under the Robotech name for the extra nostalgia push, maybe? But then you'd have Harmony Gold to deal with. Transformers would be an obvious choice, but they have yet to appear in the series... and some might say they have no place in it anyway.
It might be a lot of work for too little, unfortunately. And Atlus doesn't even seem interested in bringing over more OG games after the two they imported - three, if you count Endless Frontier, which didn't have much to do with SRW. That could be in part because the market for GBA games was pretty much dead when they were released, but you could argue that the first DS models could still play GBA cartridges, so maybe that wasn't really a factor.
Not much hope, but do I wish it would happen! I'd preorder the darn thing on day 1 (and I barely ever preorder anything). I'd even go for the collector's edition with whatever overpriced cheap "collectible" trinket they'll throw in there.
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Post by krimpov on Mar 9, 2016 16:40:50 GMT -5
Most modern consoles aren't region-locked, so an official English-language Asia release is sort of a workaround from having to deal with publishing in NA and Europe. And let's face it, SRW, even the non-licensing nightmare OG series, is pretty niche and doesn't really warrant that kind of hell. Basically anyone who'd be interested would have experience importing things. Hopefully, this will become the norm and maybe one day in the near future we'll get a mainline SRW with an English Asia release. Whoah! I hadn't even noticed that was an english ASIAN release with no US version (yet). Indeed, if Namco Bandai themselves finally decided to do that, an official English release of a "real" Super Robot Wars title doesn't seem so unlikely anymore. Preordering that one right now. Oh yes. |
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Post by greengetterguy on Mar 9, 2016 20:20:37 GMT -5
I def understand and agree with the horrid licensing nightmare......
I hate how greedy people get. If they can leagally inforce to have parties split the licensing fee fairly and they all agree to it that would be awesome.
I do feel there are enough english speaking fans in the world to warrent a main SRW release.
IMHO, it can do very very well. A million unit seller im willing to bet.
Look how Nintendo got a shock of how well Fire Emblem did. They Never ever expected that one.. The latest iteration is current #1 release for DS at Amazon!
So Nintendo, Bandai/Namco or someone, release it and we will buy!!
Just removed the problem licensors from the game! I dont mind missing few superrobots as long as most of the main guys are in the game..thats easily done!
1producer, 1 translator/1editor/1proof reader, 1 lawyer/1assistant, 1artist and1 programmer can localize an existing game under a year. Less then 10 men full timer team! Come on!
No? Too hard? Then how about SRW based just on Go Nagai. No? Still too hard? How About just Characters from Mazinger univers. Just Getters?
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Post by cmal on Mar 10, 2016 8:28:50 GMT -5
I don't think FE is a good comparison. For one, its a "standard" RPG, so it has appeal to a wide range of demographics. Outside of a few noteworthy titles, robot games have traditionally never really done well (we can't account for other peoples' poor tastes, after all). Additionally, one could make the argument that FE has the good fortune of being able to piggyback on Persona's and other similar games' success, whatever that encompasses.
Additionally, English release outside of Asia just because there are "enough English-speaking fans" is oversimplifying it. You have English for the Americas and English for Europe -- relatively simple for some publishing outfits, a big hassle for others, and the bean counters holding the purse strings don't necessarily get the big picture.
And honestly, I don't think you should EVER water down a mainline SRW title just to try to test the waters. That's bad business. Either a full game or nothing, because there are expectations that get set and expectations that need to be met.
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Post by mazingetter on Mar 22, 2016 21:16:47 GMT -5
Some of the the J antagonists get slightly redesigned mechs, which probably was done to to give the idea that the Fury aces customize their units. On the other hand, the GC antagonists get completely new mechs, replacing the ones they had in GC. It has something to do rights with of the original mecha designs if you count Endless Frontier, which didn't have much to do with SRW. While the Endless Frontier games didn't have the same gameplay as a standard SRW game, they are canonically part of the Original Generations timeline. |
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Post by krimpov on Mar 23, 2016 15:28:57 GMT -5
Canon doesn't matter much when the robots take so little place in the game, reduced to summon attacks and almost cameo-level appearances in the storyline. "Super robot" may be in the title and it may be part of the SRT OG universe, but super robots take the back seat in this one. That's what I mean.
But I liked the game anyway.
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Post by Vendetta on Mar 23, 2016 18:32:11 GMT -5
I was already going to get this, and now knowing that we will be able to play the Asian release with English subtitles is awesome news. I actually liked the PS3 OG game quite a bit more than Jigoku-hen; that reminds me that I need to go back and finish Dark Prison!
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Post by Gold on Mar 29, 2016 11:01:08 GMT -5
Eh? OG 1 and 2 for GameBoy Advance were not properly/officially translated? Whoops, lol, sorry forgot about those, I never played the Gameboy Advance. Thanks for the correction.  Gold |
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Post by cmal on Aug 5, 2016 7:50:32 GMT -5
Just got my shipping confirmation from Play-Asia. Anyone else getting this?
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Post by mpchi on Aug 8, 2016 0:52:41 GMT -5
Just got my shipping confirmation from Play-Asia. Anyone else getting this? Same here. Waiting for its arrival and see how I like the English in the game. I can read enough Japanese and very used to the original text and UI. Hope the English doesn't throw me off in some ways, but also excited to check it out. |
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Post by cmal on Aug 8, 2016 8:21:36 GMT -5
I imagine it'll be pretty similar to Gundam Breaker 3's english (which was pretty good, though there were some headscratchers), but I'm guessing there'll be some translations that'll be different from expectation. I can recognize the Japanese for most of the SP skills and enough of the really common terms and I did play the localized OGs and Endless Frontier. Even so, I'm still pretty used to how they've been done in the fan-translations.
My copy should be arriving today (decided to spring for the extra shipping and get Fedex instead of slow boat from China like with GB3), so if I've got time I'll fire it up after I get home from work.
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Post by mpchi on Aug 8, 2016 14:18:56 GMT -5
I imagine it'll be pretty similar to Gundam Breaker 3's english (which was pretty good, though there were some headscratchers), but I'm guessing there'll be some translations that'll be different from expectation. I can recognize the Japanese for most of the SP skills and enough of the really common terms and I did play the localized OGs and Endless Frontier. Even so, I'm still pretty used to how they've been done in the fan-translations. My copy should be arriving today (decided to spring for the extra shipping and get Fedex instead of slow boat from China like with GB3), so if I've got time I'll fire it up after I get home from work. NOICE! Please post some first impressions of the game and translation. I went with normal shipping, so most likely won't get the game to try out until another week or two since it shipped from Hong Kong. I am very used to the Kanji SP menus as well as the name sorting of the robots and pilots. That's what I am concern about the menus and UI layout in English, less so on the dialogue. Ideal for me if there is an option to turn English on and off, in case I don't like the English menus. But it is what it is. Happy to see some official English version especially when this means more exposure to westerners on this awesome franchise, particularly for folks on this forum and other robot anime fans alike. Moon Dwellers will be the warm-up of the SRW V English next year! |
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Post by cmal on Aug 9, 2016 19:41:32 GMT -5
I only got to play the prologue stage tonight, and this is my first modern SRW (I haven't played a game in some time) so there are features and functions that they've added since my last game.
The dialogue is mostly fine, so there's no worries there. Some of the menu items and tooltips are a bit off, but pretty understandable and don't require too much extra effort to figure out. Some of the choices for certain phrases will take a bit of getting used to, but they make enough sense once you "experience" them. Also, really helpful that you can bring up a tooltip doodad on pretty much any screen to remind you of what stuff does. Again, there's a ton of new stuff for me, so I can't comment on that aspect of the experience. But it plays like the SRW I'd expect.
Side note: Calvina and the co-pilot girls are so much hotter in HD on a console compared to J's handheld pixeleyness. :3
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Post by mpchi on Aug 10, 2016 10:10:14 GMT -5
Does it allow you to switch back & forth between English and Japanese? Or English only on everything?
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