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Post by mrclean08 on Jul 5, 2016 22:15:47 GMT -5
CD Japan does not require immediate payment...just a pre-authorization. The only place that has a no-frills cancellation is BBTS. But, they are going to be pricier overall (at least for me since I'm buying from Canada). Doesn't BBTS have a two week cooling off period? Pretty sure you're locked in after two weeks expires from the date of your order. I rarely buy from BBTS, as their international shipping fees are the highest of any US retailer I've ever dealt with; and their packaging isn't always bullet-proof - like it used to be. They also take much longer than any other retailer to process your order, when I'm paying an arm and a leg for express shipping, I expect consideration as regards my order being hurried along. Amazon is a good example of how to do it right, their handling time is commensurate to the shipping speed you've opted for, HLJ is also lightning fast - as are most Japanese retailers, but HLJ is consistent. I have to disagree somewhat with Amazon. Yes, you can get things fast, but Amazon sometimes has the worst packing in packaging. It's hit or miss with them. And especially since they use those little air baggies, sometimes you don't get sufficient baggies surrounding your object and your object ends up sliding around and the box arrived scuffed or even has corners dinged. This happens to me all the time with books, much more toys. If I ever order chogokins from Amazon, it's hit or miss if they will arrive in good condition, at least from my experiences. I've never had BBTS pack insufficiently. |
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Post by Deckard on Jul 6, 2016 1:26:47 GMT -5
Doesn't BBTS have a two week cooling off period? Pretty sure you're locked in after two weeks expires from the date of your order. I rarely buy from BBTS, as their international shipping fees are the highest of any US retailer I've ever dealt with; and their packaging isn't always bullet-proof - like it used to be. They also take much longer than any other retailer to process your order, when I'm paying an arm and a leg for express shipping, I expect consideration as regards my order being hurried along. Amazon is a good example of how to do it right, their handling time is commensurate to the shipping speed you've opted for, HLJ is also lightning fast - as are most Japanese retailers, but HLJ is consistent. I have to disagree somewhat with Amazon. Yes, you can get things fast, but Amazon sometimes has the worst packing in packaging. It's hit or miss with them. And especially since they use those little air baggies, sometimes you don't get sufficient baggies surrounding your object and your object ends up sliding around and the box arrived scuffed or even has corners dinged. This happens to me all the time with books, much more toys. If I ever order chogokins from Amazon, it's hit or miss if they will arrive in good condition, at least from my experiences. I've never had BBTS pack insufficiently. Agreed with Amazon's hit & miss packaging, but they totally look after you if there's a problem - as in full refund, and new replacement sent via express shipping. As for BBTS' packaging; sure, they love that green bubble wrap, and it works great in most instances. My problems have been with multiple goods, they line the box with the wrap; and throw everything within the remaining cavity to bang around with everything else. Maybe I should mention it to them, because it's the primary reason I no longer care for their POL feature. Anyway, gone way off subject here... XD |
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Post by S_Gokin on Jul 6, 2016 1:32:19 GMT -5
details? what details? the shadows and shading? those are not considered details. details are the nooks and crannies, not shadows. and that picture is from a still in the anime, not from the animation. thats why it has more shaded areas. so you just ignored the details on the lions body, the details on his chest & belt, the details on face and over all head design and went to shadows ? those were popular back in the days but even if you remove it you still have all the details, the still picture are the best example of any character in that era because it show every part of it as the creator of it want it, also it was nearly impossible to keep the exact look in every scene you have different Painters and every one going to do his personal touch that represent the character, they also skip some of the details in fast action scene to save time and money, but this is not a problem in our time any more look here this is an animation from the anime  |
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Post by boricua on Jul 6, 2016 18:05:24 GMT -5
yes. where are those details you mention? i dont see them, just more shadows. voltron is a very simplistic 1980s drawing. yes, unlike the later 80s, 90s, and later robots full of details like dangaioh, gaogaigar, etc.
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Post by jaylive on Jul 6, 2016 19:38:37 GMT -5
yes. where are those details you mention? i dont see them, just more shadows. voltron is a very simplistic 1980s drawing. yes, unlike the later 80s, 90s, and later robots full of details like dangaioh, gaogaigar, etc. ive always said the same thing. voltron is a super simple design, just blocky and flat. barely any details at all. with that and the anime magic of the legs disappearance im completely confused why people are so stringent with "anime accuracy" of course its all individual tastes I suppose but i dont get it. |
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Post by mrclean08 on Jul 6, 2016 23:22:32 GMT -5
From an animator's point of view, it would be painstakingly difficult to draw all the lion legs at various angles during Golion's combined mode. I'm assuming that's possibly why they elected to have the legs disappear in the anime. It was far less work to draw/animate. Is it cool to me if Bandai somehow finds a gimmick to hide the legs? I guess so. But at the same time, I don't want the gimmick sacrificing the aesthetics of what can possibly be undersized lion legs just for the sake of somehow fitting inside the lion bodies or what not. Removable legs would be doable, but then it's no longer a perfect transformation.
I'm happy with the chrome legs being visible per the original toy. But I do have faith that Bandai could figure out a way to do it, because they did it with Beralios' lion arms for GX-59 Daltanious robot mode.
That being said, I'm more concerned that the black lion doesn't look like a fat brick more than anything. If we don't get lion necks or hidden lion arms, oh well, so be it. But please Bandai, with all your engineering genius, please somehow give us a slender as possible black lion that doesn't look like a fat brick compared to the other four.
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Post by faelon on Jul 6, 2016 23:42:48 GMT -5
I'm hopeful on Lion necks. Even Toynami looks to have pulled that off with their latest grossly overpriced plastic offering. I don't think we will get the lion legs hiding though. And honestly I am not sure that I really want them to. Both Bandai and Takara have been reasonably good in recent years at channeling nostalgia that serves both anime accuracy to a point, and nostalgic love of the original toys. While the lion arms do disappear from the anime via animation magic. They are and always have been a key pronounced detail of the toys. With their crisp chrome. I think I will be happiest is they fold up cleanly and neatly while still remaining visible. If they want to leave the legs off of an SRC, by all means. But for the SOC I think respect for the old Popy almost requires them.
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Post by S_Gokin on Jul 7, 2016 13:34:45 GMT -5
you guys make it sound like Voltron is a mine craft character , just a couple of cubes on top of each other which make no sense
yes the robot design is simple but it have alot of details in it, every lion body have its own detailed design even their weapons are different than each other, and Bandai Voltron looks promising so far, all i care about at the moment is they give it decent joints if the KOB can do the high kick pose i dont see why Bandai Voltron cant
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Post by Coldbreakar on Jul 7, 2016 17:01:18 GMT -5
I'm as happy as everyone about the SOC Golion/Voltron, for me i'll keep my thoughts until the day they reveal it at San Diego Comic Con.  All i'm hoping that its size will be around GX-50 Combattler V, GX-59 Daltanious & GX-60 God Sigma.  |
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Post by boricua on Jul 7, 2016 17:26:56 GMT -5
the discontent is that bandai can make a lot better looking voltron in the soc line, but it looks like they decided to take the easy way instead. a lot of people were waiting for bandai to make voltron because the were thinking bandai engineering would give them an almost perfect voltron or golion, but instead bandai just gave us the same toy as everyone has. it will have deformed lions and not much anime accuracy after all. see my point?
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Post by krimpov on Jul 7, 2016 17:59:23 GMT -5
1) Bandai has made "perfect transformation" figures with exchangeable anime-accurate parts before.
2) The only thing we got on this one is a blacked-out bust shot where we barely see anything.
So, maybe this time they won't include any anime-accurate parts. Maybe it will really just be another rehash of the old toys' design. Maybe it will be the biggest pile of sh*t ever made. Maybe. But right now, we can't tell. You can crank up the brightness all you want, it won't show you what's not in the shot.
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Post by locidm on Jul 7, 2016 18:27:39 GMT -5
Are we seriously criticizing the toy even before its announcement and actual reveal?
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Post by germie on Jul 7, 2016 18:40:35 GMT -5
Are we seriously criticizing the toy even before its announcement and actual reveal? Exactly. Not much to go by but a poorly lit photo of a portion of the product. |
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Post by TaurusOxford on Jul 7, 2016 18:53:13 GMT -5
the discontent is that bandai can make a lot better looking voltron in the soc line, but it looks like they decided to take the easy way instead. a lot of people were waiting for bandai to make voltron because the were thinking bandai engineering would give them an almost perfect voltron or golion, but instead bandai just gave us the same toy as everyone has. it will have deformed lions and not much anime accuracy after all. see my point? It's amazing that you can judge an entire toy based on one solitary image that barely shows the upper body. "It's not a 100% replica of my childhood memories therefore it sucks sh*t" - person who needs to go outside more often |
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Post by supergetterv on Jul 7, 2016 23:14:11 GMT -5
It remains to be seen what kind of accessories this figure will come with. And we can't entirely rule out that they aren't going to engineer it where the lions legs can transform and hide away. Perhaps they will offers anime accurate covers to the anime magic trick. We don't know. But part of the charm, the soul part of the SoC line, IMO has something to do with paying homage to the old Popy/Godaikin toy. Part of the draw for the SoC line has to do with its nostalgic feel the chogokins produces in comparison to the old godaikin and popy toy. So I am happy that the teaser picture show something that looks like the old figure which I never owned. Yeah I have the first MPC from toynami. And I still think it's $100 I've ever spent. But it's still not the high quality high end that I've grown to expect and accustom too. Whether it's priced at $200, $300 or even higher, with the SoC line, they always seem to give the customer its value and worth in their product. The price paid is usually warranted with the quality of the build, in its material used, the sound structure engineering of the toy, spectacular paint apps with high QC on applying the paint. I haven't purchased a SoC in a long time. This announcement easily made it to my most wanted, most anticipated toy releases in years. Right now, it's just hard to get excited for any other toy announcement.
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Post by nickgreat on Jul 8, 2016 0:44:09 GMT -5
I was actually hoping that the lion legs will be able to hide into the body. That would be a step up in terms of engineering, kinda lie Godmars, where the old toy had arms that simply folded back out of view, SoC managed to up it by having the arms fold in. That was impressive.
Wonder if SoC voltron will do this. Then again, part of the charm of the robot is being able to see those shiny lion legs on the sides too.... I'm contradicting myself.
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Post by S_Gokin on Jul 8, 2016 2:39:44 GMT -5
guys guys lets just take a deep breath and relax
i totally understand if some don't like it its their opinion, for me i like what im seen Pros are much more than the Cons so far, even tho its not a complete picture we still didn't see the blue lion (my personal fav) and the yellow lion yet, along with the accessories
of course Bandai can include covers to cover the lions legs but even if that doesn't happen will it be a deal killer ? i don't think so
the expectations bar particularly for this figure is very high since Bandai is knowing for acing combiners and for their brilliant engineering, and im sure they wont
disappoint lets just wait and see
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Post by bader on Jul 8, 2016 6:04:53 GMT -5
Lol....... All this because of one picture.
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Post by RoboFestivus on Jul 8, 2016 7:42:10 GMT -5
Nerds. Y'all keep arguing about Voltron's pic. I'm gonna go put on my pocket protector and glasses, rearrange my SOC collection display, play some video games, then go watch a Scifi movie. |
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Post by vgm on Jul 8, 2016 13:12:39 GMT -5
The madtoys one is better!  |
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