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Post by chogo on Jan 20, 2018 14:48:38 GMT -5
Why are selling KO Lions in separate boxes anyways? Buy couple Lions, get cease and desist, then have incomplete set due lack of production. Just little odd to me.
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Post by smokinchogokin on Jan 20, 2018 15:04:28 GMT -5
Voltron sets need to be sold complete in one package.
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Post by GetterBoi on Jan 20, 2018 15:06:34 GMT -5
Judging by what Bandai did to Dragon Momoko late 2017, it seems they are losing their patience with Chinese KO companies. what did they do ? honestly the whole SOC KOs are brand new to me (the exact copy paste figure) Not SOC KOs, but there was a 3rd party Chinese gunpla company called Dragon Momoko that was making Master Grade kits of mechs that Bandai had not done, and also stylized versions and variants from Bandai's existing catalogue. DM was considered one of the best 3P gunpla companies out there, their material was good, the parts rarely had fitment issues. But around Summer of 2017 they started announcing PO for actual KO of Bandai kits with added weapon sets. I forgot which kits but I think Gundam Astray Blue Frame was one of them. Bandai obviously took notice of this and took action. In November of 2017 DM factory in China was raided by police, and all the molds were destroyed on site. So it is certain Bandai is very aware of the KOs coming from China, and will not hesitate to take legal steps when it pisses them off. More on this story: www.gundamkitscollection.com/2017/11/bandai-shuts-down-dragon-momoko-and.htmlWeijiang has been lucky since they've mostly been KO-ing Takara Tomy, and TT does not have the size or money to deal with legalities in China. But Bandai is a beast. Weijiang will be lucky if they actually can complete all 5 lions, so that may be part of their strategy to release one lion at a time, to cash in on whatever they can. It would suck for anyone who goes in on this to be stuck with 3 lions and Weijiang get shut down by Bandai. |
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Post by GetterBoi on Jan 20, 2018 15:10:45 GMT -5
Why are selling KO Lions in separate boxes anyways? Buy couple Lions, get cease and desist, then have incomplete set due lack of production. Just little odd to me. They probably anticipate this might happen, so they are releasing whatever molds are complete and cash in on it ASAP. By the time they mold the Black Lion, Bandai might already be knocking at the door. |
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Post by chogo on Jan 20, 2018 16:17:30 GMT -5
This kind of reminds of Marvel Build a Figures. Lol.
You got all the pieces except one and secondary market is playing
Ransom with you to pay for very limited piece. 😂😜🙏🏼
Stuck with A Voltron missing torso.
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Post by f360 on Jan 20, 2018 19:46:51 GMT -5
Voltron sets need to be sold complete in one package. Why are selling KO Lions in separate boxes anyways? Buy couple Lions, get cease and desist, then have incomplete set due lack of production. Just little odd to me. 3rd party makers normally release 1 piece at a time so that the money earn can be used for the next piece. They don't invest too many money at one time. what did they do ? honestly the whole SOC KOs are brand new to me (the exact copy paste figure) Not SOC KOs, but there was a 3rd party Chinese gunpla company called Dragon Momoko that was making Master Grade kits of mechs that Bandai had not done, and also stylized versions and variants from Bandai's existing catalogue. DM was considered one of the best 3P gunpla companies out there, their material was good, the parts rarely had fitment issues. But around Summer of 2017 they started announcing PO for actual KO of Bandai kits with added weapon sets. I forgot which kits but I think Gundam Astray Blue Frame was one of them. Bandai obviously took notice of this and took action. In November of 2017 DM factory in China was raided by police, and all the molds were destroyed on site. So it is certain Bandai is very aware of the KOs coming from China, and will not hesitate to take legal steps when it pisses them off. More on this story: www.gundamkitscollection.com/2017/11/bandai-shuts-down-dragon-momoko-and.htmlWeijiang has been lucky since they've mostly been KO-ing Takara Tomy, and TT does not have the size or money to deal with legalities in China. But Bandai is a beast. Weijiang will be lucky if they actually can complete all 5 lions, so that may be part of their strategy to release one lion at a time, to cash in on whatever they can. It would suck for anyone who goes in on this to be stuck with 3 lions and Weijiang get shut down by Bandai. There's a good chance this will not happen at all. Everyone should know that BANDAI = GUNDAM , so I can see them doing what they did to DM, it was just too close to their own stuff. But this is Voltron and that does not equal to Bandai as it does with Gundam. Wei Jiang lost his marbles if he thinks he is selling a ko for nearly $300! I though he was going for $150 for the full set. I think he forgot he is selling a ko. Arms $50, Legs $60, Torso and accesories $80... That’s $300!!!! Hell no! to be fair ,another member said their whole seller price is around $25 for the arms so that's what Wei Jiang is selling them at. the $50 is the reseller price. |
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Post by thayora on Jan 20, 2018 22:44:11 GMT -5
There's a good chance this will not happen at all. Everyone should know that BANDAI = GUNDAM , so I can see them doing what they did to DM, it was just too close to their own stuff. But this is Voltron and that does not equal to Bandai as it does with Gundam. That's a good point. For Gundam, it's understandable for Bandai to be protective of an incredibly profitable and active property. But for a one-time thing like the SOC Voltron, it's hard to tell if they would be as protective over that to go through such lengths. |
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Post by S_Gokin on Jan 21, 2018 3:56:14 GMT -5
thanks for the info guys
im sure Bandai is very aware of how successful the GX-71, but why they didnt reissued it ? the GX-31V got a reissue about a month later, the new GX48k got another production run while its on preorder ! so again why they dont reissue the GX-71 ? a 2nd run for it will be another hit since alot of people still didnt get one not to mention those who want a 2nd unit to display in the lions mode
maybe its a license issue ?
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Post by shingetterova on Jan 21, 2018 6:44:12 GMT -5
I'm selling my gx 71 (plus others things) on the on sale section if anyone is interested.
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Post by Coletron on Jan 21, 2018 12:32:52 GMT -5
I'm guessing there hasn't been a reissue because of a hold up with World Events Productions. The original GoLion/Voltron is Bandai's #1 selling gokin of all time. And. current demand is high. Bandai has no reason not to.
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Post by mrclean08 on Jan 21, 2018 13:08:05 GMT -5
After seeing so much of the Playmates Classic '84 Voltron all over Facebook and Instagram, it totally makes me appreciate how beautiful the SOC is all the more.
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Post by S_Gokin on Jan 21, 2018 13:53:32 GMT -5
After seeing so much of the Playmates Classic '84 Voltron all over Facebook and Instagram, it totally makes me appreciate how beautiful the SOC is all the more. did you see how ugly that thing is specially the lions legs the only kinda good was the LEDs in chest lol glad i bought the GX-71 as soon as they release it, one of the best SOC ever made hands down |
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Post by Holygrail on Jan 21, 2018 20:16:18 GMT -5
glad i bought the GX-71 as soon as they release it, one of the best SOC ever made hands down What are you talking about Gokin? IT IS the best SOC ever made, and the greatest toy of all time. Say you're sorry. |
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Post by S_Gokin on Jan 22, 2018 2:30:37 GMT -5
What are you talking about Gokin? IT IS the best SOC ever made, and the greatest toy of all time. Say you're sorry. yea sorry lol, best SOC ever made but the greatest toy of all time in my opinion is the DX Mazinger z  |
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Post by ninjarobot on Jan 22, 2018 9:14:10 GMT -5
to be fair ,another member said their whole seller price is around $25 for the arms so that's what Wei Jiang is selling them at. the $50 is the reseller price. right, the reseller can set the retail price at whatever he wants. Even still, if there was minimal markup, its still going to cost $200+. which honestly isnt that bad. but TF-Direct $50 plus shipping. hell no. |
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Post by shintitan on Jan 22, 2018 10:23:08 GMT -5
to be fair ,another member said their whole seller price is around $25 for the arms so that's what Wei Jiang is selling them at. the $50 is the reseller price. right, the reseller can set the retail price at whatever he wants. Even still, if there was minimal markup, its still going to cost $200+. which honestly isnt that bad. but TF-Direct $50 plus shipping. hell no. Shipping is free so I think it a good price. Specially if it has WeiJang quality. Siriusly the quality is very good sometime it surpass the original. Becides, when I asked them about the wholesale price it's actually 37$ not 25$. |
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Post by ninjarobot on Jan 22, 2018 10:57:22 GMT -5
right, the reseller can set the retail price at whatever he wants. Even still, if there was minimal markup, its still going to cost $200+. which honestly isnt that bad. but TF-Direct $50 plus shipping. hell no. Shipping is free so I think it a good price. Specially if it has WeiJang quality. Siriusly the quality is very good sometime it surpass the original. Becides, when I asked them about the wholesale price it's actually 37$ not 25$. I guess your quote was worse then mine! lol. I talked to them over several emails. I was quoted RMB155.00 which is $24.20 USD. |
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Post by shintitan on Jan 22, 2018 12:17:24 GMT -5
Shipping is free so I think it a good price. Specially if it has WeiJang quality. Siriusly the quality is very good sometime it surpass the original. Becides, when I asked them about the wholesale price it's actually 37$ not 25$. I guess your quote was worse then mine! lol. I talked to them over several emails. I was quoted RMB155.00 which is $24.20 USD. Lol. I don't no why but is ether because I asked about the shipping to my country or about the minimum order quote. |
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Post by GTMQ8 on Jan 22, 2018 17:06:55 GMT -5
I have, and always will be, against KO and bootleg toys/figures. Never liked them. Of course like most collectors I have run into a few of them, either by purchasing them by mistake or seeing them in person. It's also the reason I avoid 3rd party Transformers figures...it's just..wrong.
Now Voltron/Golion is being targeted for that purpose? I hope Bandai shuts this operation down too. I love the SOC line too much to see it desecrated by these people who don't have any respect for copyright laws and intellectual properties.
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Post by xephon0930 on Jan 22, 2018 18:15:18 GMT -5
I have, and always will be, against KO and bootleg toys/figures. Never liked them. Of course like most collectors I have run into a few of them, either by purchasing them by mistake or seeing them in person. It's also the reason I avoid 3rd party Transformers figures...it's just..wrong. Now Voltron/Golion is being targeted for that purpose? I hope Bandai shuts this operation down too. I love the SOC line too much to see it desecrated by these people who don't have any respect for copyright laws and intellectual properties. Granted if Bandai does announce a reissue of the SoC Voltron,I would drop the KO version in a heartbeat even with the money I have invested in the Red Lion right now. It is a huge matter of when and that WEP license Bandai has I am unsure is still up atm. |
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