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Post by johnnyhaggis on Oct 20, 2004 15:30:47 GMT -5
Hey - does anyone know if I can take the heads, gloves and boots off of a vinyl walder cheapo statue and stick them onto a KWII figure or a neo-henshin figure?
I've seen ads on yahoo japan where the guy stuck the comstumes onto old style walder bodies.
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Post by hypnotator on Oct 21, 2004 4:07:46 GMT -5
Hello Johnny, thanks for posting; I was beginning to think this board had died!
Yes, I believe you can do this, but I haven’t tried it. I owned the vinyl Dokuro king and Invader Z very briefly. I bought them blind and sold them on without opening the boxes as they were so disappointing. I think I saw the same ad on YJ that you mention and when I ran the text through the Babelfish translator it mentioned cutting the vinyl to make it work. I know from building Horizon model kits that you can use a hairdryer (or hot water but it’s messier) for a few seconds to soften vinyl and make it more pliable. This is handy for getting the heads on and off KWJr figures and I used the same technique to get the crocodile costumes off of Coboboy and Skullbonz, as they were pretty stubborn. So, if you wanted to try taking one of those Walder Monster vinyls apart, I recommend you heat the joints and they should pull apart easily. I imagine you might need to make slits in the back of the head and under the arms on the chest piece. Again, I recommend you heat the vinyl before cutting and use a sharp scalpel.
I have a picture that I found on some Japanese site of KWII figures with all three monster costumes on. It dates from long before the recent Kaijin Dokuro King reissue. Unfortunately I only have a printed copy, or I would post the picture. I presume that the vinyl figures were cut up and used, BUT the Plant Man has a GREEN KWII body, which doesn’t exist, so this is a Takara custom, presumably, so the monster costumes COULD be one-offs too. It’s another HC mystery…..
If you try this, keep us posted!
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Post by johnnyhaggis on Oct 21, 2004 9:25:49 GMT -5
Sounds work intesive! I was under the impression that you can simply remove them. THey sure are cheap looking dolls, aren't they! Here's the yahoo japan add. And this guy "does do the overseas dispatch" if you can communicate properly in Japanese. He's removed the heads etc and put them on what looks like old Henshin figures. Those guys look skinnier than the neos and KWIIs., so I'm thinking maybe the gloves and boots won't fit. Somebody out there must have one of these vinyl dudes, they seem to sell whenever they're up on ebay. Thanks for the instructions though! Here's the ad by the way: page3.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/c63579138It doesn't mention anything about cutting vynil though from what I can tell. I have a friend who's japanese, but he's working like crazy these days, and I hate to bother him to start ordering stuff for me! |
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Post by johnnyhaggis on Oct 21, 2004 22:32:12 GMT -5
Ok, so maybe no one had the goofy vinyl walder monsters *BUT* here's a question you guys can answer - are the forearms and calves of cyborg 99 figures about the same width as those of the old Henshin cyborg 12" figures?
If so, then the parts will fit, if they're bigger on the 99's then they won't.
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Post by rednecktex on Nov 3, 2004 23:52:50 GMT -5
I am sorry to say each line is different. Even the reissued cyborgs aren't compatible with the old ones!  The only thing compatible is the Medicom Real Action Hero Mirror Man released in the 90's. His body is totally white and the same mold as the old black robot Cyborg with the human head. Sorry to let you down. God knows I have tried! |
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Post by johnnyhaggis on Nov 4, 2004 23:05:19 GMT -5
Actually, I just got in the mail the purple General Walder 99 (aka Shaft) and the cheapo vinyl Skull King . You can just pop off skull king's head and gloves and they fit decently on the walder. (What kind of name is Walder for bad guys - how non-fearsome can you get? Im sure it sounds more imposing in Japanese!) However the chest piece is another story. You have to slice it off the body with a knife - I used a sculptor's knife (its like a metal pen, with a little blade fasterned to it). Then you have to make modifications to it so that it fits on the cyborg 99 body.
It's too annoying to have to write it all down, I guess Ill wait until I can take some pictures. You have to make a slit from the arm holes down so that it can open enough to put on the body, and you also have to open up the arm holes and the neck hole by making the holes bigger, carving a circle around them.
The point is that in the end, I have a nice Dokoro King! It looks better than the real one because the paint is actually silver instead of dull gray. The chest piece is smaller relative to the body than the real dokoro, but it still looks cool, and the real dokoro is just too bloody expensive!
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Post by hypnotator on Nov 5, 2004 4:06:26 GMT -5
I look forward to seeing pictures, Johnny
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Post by hypnotator on Nov 8, 2004 4:46:25 GMT -5
Okay, Johnny, you got me wondering, and Tex’s reply got me wondering too. I’ve only got one costume, the reissue Dokuro King, so I tried it on all four types of figure. First off, a 99 body, Magma’s:  It all goes on, but the gloves don’t push on too far, so he looks spindly-armed, a bit like the UK Torg. The head is just sat in place and it’s a bit slack. If I could have been bothered to disturb my 99, I could maybe have used his head inside the skelly one, but I only thought of that now.  He looks quite nice with the KW2 brain showing too. Spot the Bride of Frankenstein.  And now the Dokuro King is being modelled by a smoked Neo. Give us a twirl, darling! You will note that the boots won’t go on; the ankle of the Neo is too flared. Again, the head just sits on slackly. I left the purple KW head inside the skelly one for all these shots, by the way.  Lastly, we have this fabulous garment modelled by a vintage HC. Best fit of all and the head sits properly and can be posed. I found it hard to believe, Tex, that the costume would not go on a vintage one, and it doesn’t not go on, it does go on! The shins were a little tight in the boots. Of course, the vintage Dokuro King costume has slits in the back of the boots, and the reissue does not, which accounts for this. |
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Post by Garvy on Nov 9, 2004 1:39:53 GMT -5
I love what you did with Magma. Looking at it again, it resembles the Microman AcroyearX Scorl. Check out this picture:  Cheers, Garvy |
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Post by johnnyhaggis on Nov 10, 2004 0:39:48 GMT -5
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Post by hypnotator on Nov 10, 2004 4:25:30 GMT -5
So there is some use for those cruddy vinyls. He looks good, and he gave that wimpy Neo a proper seeing to. Thanks for posting, Johnny.
Yes, Garvy, I agree that Scorl owes something of his design to Dokuro King, as well as Satan King, and Alien 4's skeletal alien. The prosthetic arms are like something Giger might have drawn. I like the Acro Force set a lot, and the influences on the design of each figure are many.
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