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Post by cyborgbushcricket on Nov 24, 2004 15:52:49 GMT -5
 NEVER, im soon gonna post some better pics of my figs, heres a mix of walders, just got green reissue, the hand weapons are just too cool. CBC. |
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Post by cyborgbushcricket on Nov 24, 2004 15:56:03 GMT -5
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Post by hypnotator on Nov 25, 2004 9:33:35 GMT -5
Too many Walders? Not possible! Is there such thing as too much of a good thing?
Hey! What are those weapons on KWJr? I didn't get those with mine.
I hope they do a blue KW now; they could give him two heads, blue and clear, to keep everyone happy. Also they could do the purple one without the Dokuro costume, and a yellow one, of course. And some other colour variations.
Nice pics, by the way, CBC, thanks.
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Post by cyborgbushcricket on Nov 25, 2004 11:47:35 GMT -5
ah, the walder jr weapons, they were an ultra exclusive mail away prize with some japanese magazine, limited to 20 pairs............JUST KIDDING, no they are customs, i based them on vintage versions although the red and green one became more elaborate and is now a cthulhuesque monstrosity, ive also done a purple scorch bore type with more in the pipe line.
Who would have imagined all this cyborg stuff just a few years ago??
CBC.
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Post by hypnotator on Nov 26, 2004 6:22:04 GMT -5
I'm impressed, CBC, those hand weapons look like the real thing. How did you do them? Are they mass-producable? Post pictures of any others you do. I'd love to see your Acroyear Amazon too.
I know what you mean about the new HC stuff. I sometimes look at my glass case and think, wow, if I could send a picture back in time to myself eight years ago, my past self would be so excited. Back then I didn't even know that Cyborg originated in Japan. I used to wonder why he wasn't in the Tomart book and the Micronauts were.
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Post by cyborgbushcricket on Nov 26, 2004 12:26:56 GMT -5
hi Hypno, thanks for the compliments!!
Im afraid they are made one by one but are easily done using citadel/gamesworkshop 'green stuff'- a two part epoxy putty which sets with a slightly rubbery texture. I put a plastic bag piece around KW jr arm and build up a 'sock' in rings (leaving each ring to set first before applying the next) until you have fully covered the end of the arm, at this stage you remove the 'sock', trim it up and them in stages build up the detail. the bag allows easy removal from the arm which would otherwise be impossible, it prevents adhesion to the toy plastic. Its really fun and easy as the walder weapons are organic so anything goes, the vintage ones were quite simple so are easy to replicate, ive got some excellent shots of vintage ones from yahoo jp as models. I'll try and post shots this weekend including the good old amazon acroyear.
CBC.
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Post by cyborgbushcricket on Nov 26, 2004 13:01:19 GMT -5
I have to say that ive been collecting microman/nauts and reissue TF's (and some binaltechs recently) over the last five years, ive got to a point where i pretty much had all the bits ive wanted but with these walders and cyborgs its all gone a bit crazy again. For sure though the dokuroking and red and green walders are my favourite toys in ages, particularly with the hand weapons, not sure on the real names but I think skullgun and hydra (snakes) are two of them (from what I read on pauls microforever site on the gashapon figs). I'm now just waiting for plant man and satan king, will these ever be realised? The takara website says that KW is all sold out, im just sooo glad Ive managed to get one each. obviously quite popular, more so than cyborg, I wonder if cyborg produced in greater numbers than KW??
CBC
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Post by admin1 aka Ed on Nov 27, 2004 15:14:47 GMT -5
-here's an offshoot question on the thread.
How do you end up telling a reproduction from the original Walder?
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Post by hypnotator on Nov 29, 2004 2:46:07 GMT -5
Ed, the reproduction Walders have soft vinyl brains and guts, whereas I THINK the vintage ones have hard plastic ones. Rednecktex should be able to confirm this; he has vintage ones. So all you have to do is remove the outer head and give his brain a squeeze. Doesn't that sound appealing?
CBC, I assume from the fact that the Dokuro King is called "Kaijin Collection 1" that the other two monsters are planned. I'm pretty sure that "kaijin" is Japanese for monster, and the Skeleton and Satan Kings and Plant Man are often referred to as the Walder Monsters. Takara do change their minds a lot, however. I once read that they planned to finish the reissue Microman line with Dashwing/Space Glider and roller skate Acroyear, which never happened, maybe because Pallisades got there first. Personally, I'd love the Satan King but I'll probably pass on the Plant Man, unless he has a unique coloured Walder. How does the Plant Man get through doors with that shoulder?
There seem to be tons of Henshin Collection made, like the Neos, and they will probably be hanging around on Ebay for years, getting cheaper and cheaper. The Walders, however, are released in such small numbers that they clearly fail to meet the demand, just like the Shonens/KWJrs and the first release of KW2. This seems to me to be such an odd way of marketing but it is so commonplace these days.
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Post by rednecktex on Nov 30, 2004 9:38:22 GMT -5
You are correct Hippy! My green old walder's head is hard where my black bounty hunter one is soft. Also the arm and leg ports wont combine with new and old. I wish they would release the blue with a blue head and the yellow! I paid $300 for the vintage green and it gets rereleased  |
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Post by cyborgbushcricket on Nov 30, 2004 12:08:57 GMT -5
Hi Hypno, microbrother for sure, i too was very excited over possible dash wing and acroyear 2 (real acro 2) from takara but as yet not realised, its a shame as they have done most of the original 'regular' microman and two die cast acros (well acro 1 and arden), dash wing in vintage style boxes would be so cool, i'd almost be able to stop collecting if i had a nice shiny set of those. Yes its a pity that we all couldnt have repro cyborgs/walders without fighting over them.
cbc.
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Post by hypnotator on Dec 1, 2004 2:31:56 GMT -5
I know how you feel, Tex; I paid $200, the most I have spent on a single toy, for a loose vintage silver Henshin Cyborg, and the first Henshin Collection figure came out about a month later. I didn't know it was in the pipeline, but the seller probably did. Still, it's only money, as I always say, and it's nice to have one vintage figure to compare with the reissues. If I were you I'd still treasure your green KW with its solid brain.
Steady, CBC, do you really think the toy exists that would stop you collecting? Hanging around on this site has taught me that even if I was a millionaire, there would still be stuff I would want. If I had every desirable Microman and HC figure, I'd be moving on to collect SOCs. As for Dashwing and Roller Acroyear, I'm happy with vintage Micronauts versions, and the only one I lack is the blue Space Glider. A carded one just went on Ebay for more than I'm prepared to pay, at least at the moment, so it'll have to be a VGC loose one when I find one. I think it was far more important that Takara reissue Titans and the other Acroyears, particularly the Amazons, but it doesn't look like they're going to.
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Post by rednecktex on Dec 1, 2004 8:02:01 GMT -5
Hey Bush here is a comparison of the jap dash wings with american. www.microforever.com/SuperSteelM21Xdashwing.htmI to would be very happy with reissues of the space gliders! They are so expensive on YJ! I paid under $70 for the blue glider mego carded, and the Japanese one boxed would cost between $2 and $300! |
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Post by rednecktex on Dec 1, 2004 8:05:18 GMT -5
I am still happy Hippy with my vintage green walder. The head is like new! Where many of the vintage turned dark from smoking and sunlight. You were right on the money with the silver chest cyborg. I paid the same for a gold one. If only they rerelease the blue chest !  He costs the most out of all of them! Go figure! |
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Post by cyborgbushcricket on Dec 1, 2004 12:08:31 GMT -5
hi rednecktex, no need for me to look at the photo of dashwing vs micronauts glider, i managed to get a genuine takara version, Yes, im gloating, lets just say i got VERY lucky with that one and i paid peanuts for it. It is one of the cornerstones of my collection, something I thought i'd never see never mind own. I'll post good shots at some point, generally a bit more slender looking than mego version but overall id say the construction is of similar standard, ive got a good condition blue SG to compare it with.
CBC.
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Post by rednecktex on Dec 2, 2004 22:24:42 GMT -5
Your killin me Bush!  It's just hard to spend over $200 US when the takara looks just like the mego in pictures! Is there really that much difference between the two? The space glider and the metal guy with the big gun seem to be the most expensive small microman. I wish they would reissue them instead of all the Pharoahs and Spy magicians!  |
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Post by cyborgbushcricket on Dec 3, 2004 1:59:52 GMT -5
HI redneck, the Dash wing and space glider have different moulds, they look very similar but all the details are different, the only really noticable difference though is the head of course, the DW one is small and elfish whereas the SG uses a less graceful retooled? spy magician head. Also DW lower legs are slimmer than SG and with movable feet. Overall the DW looks more stylish but the construction is just as good with the mego. I'll post some pictures soon. THis will REALLY kill you, one collector told me he got all 3 if i remember correcly MIB for $75 each on ebay as the seller didnt really know what he had!!!!!!!!!!!!!
CBC
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