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Post by cyborgbushcricket on Feb 16, 2006 18:53:21 GMT -5
Guy mentioned that that very soft vinyl costumes use more of a particular chemical. I wonder if this is the same substance that you could smell very strongly on reissue dokuroking costume? I notice the opaque areas on my walder occur on parts not even touching the costume as so i assume it was gas that had affected the plastic. The costume has very little smell left so may now be safe to put on the toy. Anybody else out there noticed the reduction in smell and no damage?? i wonder if heating the costume can drive off the substance more?
CBC.
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Post by GUYx1 on Feb 16, 2006 19:21:47 GMT -5
Please be aware that this is a softening chemical that makes some vinyls more ply-able than others. Japan got in trouble with overusing such chemicals many years back. Vinyl is porous, like a sponge and this chemical will eventually break down, leaving you with a stiffened vinyl toy. I'm talking decades here. You could leach it out with Acetone, but that kinda defeats the purpose. It's a nice soft vinyl toy.
Removing the chemical often causes the vinyl to shrink.
I've had loads of fun "Head Shrinking" as the kit bashers call it, however that sort of process takes MONTHS. Just use the protective plastic and be careful.
Remember you are taking to someone who has a Big Jim collection. The Rubbery Arms and the Torsos of those figures can NEVER touch. They fall over, they will severely melt within a few days, turning them all into a big giant Big Jim WAFFLE.
(I swear I saw this happen once!)
Now try keeping loose figures like that safe for 20 years...
It's a nightmare. Thankfully some countries manufactured them with different chemicals than others.
Cyborg is generally less of a nuisance than that.
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Post by johnnyhaggis on Feb 16, 2006 22:30:16 GMT -5
Head shrinking? How do you do that?
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Post by bryanarchy on Feb 17, 2006 2:39:46 GMT -5
Now try keeping loose figures like that safe for 20 years... It's a nightmare. Thankfully some countries manufactured them with different chemicals than others. Its funny, but i've never thought about the conservation aspects of older toy collections. I used to do a lot of work for a provincial museum and conservation of collections was a huge deal. What sort of stuff do you do to 'keep' your collection? I bet there's actually an academic paper for some museum periodical in you, guy! |
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Post by GUYx1 on Feb 17, 2006 5:34:01 GMT -5
Guess the longer you are around, you will actually see the toys which are mint in the box, become "not mint" all on their own.
If the toys weren't cool, we wouldn't care that they are degrading and turning to goo!
It gets kinda depressing if you need to sell a vintage toy and a young newbie collector gets all snippy about the condition of a toy which has never been removed from it's box in 30 years.
(I am happy to say even the Victory Cyborg book had Cyborg Jaguars prominently photographed with cracked necks!)
After awhile you learn what is normal wear and normal degradation. Not to mention what REAL Japanese vintage vinyl Smells like. (that musty Japanese vinyl mold...)
As non Bio-degradable as plastic is supposed to be, it certainly seems to disintegrate fairly well on it's own.
I have a whole ton of articles buried within me. Just no time to tell anyone half these stories.
Anyway for figure preservation it's best to use Acid free boxes & mylar bags, etc. A tight little strip of thin mylar placed over any potential area that worries you on the walder will prevent a lot of problems. Heck, I just used a hair dryer and vacuformed the Mylar strip tightly to his chest. Problem solved.
If I ever win the lottery, I need to invest in a ton of Tupperware plastic storage crates.
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Post by thebigr on Feb 17, 2006 19:23:54 GMT -5
I know what you mean- I handle vintage toys all day at work. White turns a nice yellowy tan, cloudly vehicle windows, etc. And those are the mint in box ones.
Sometimes it makes me think how great damage can be to some of these toys, though. Sometimes, kids break things into the coolest shapes. Transparent pieces turning a kalidescope of colors. battle wounds perfectly placed.
But gooey costume/bodies ALWAYS suck. it gets all over your hands. and foam parts... they just turn to a disgusting paste, it gets everywhere.
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Post by GUYx1 on Mar 2, 2006 19:37:19 GMT -5
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Post by bryanarchy on Mar 2, 2006 21:28:16 GMT -5
hahahah that's unreal!!!
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