ptjoe
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Post by ptjoe on Jun 1, 2004 16:14:14 GMT -5
I'm thinking of bidding on a GX-13R Dancouga on ebay if it doesn't get released to the public. I would rather wait and just get it at retail cost.
Does anyone have info on this?
Thanks,
ptjoe
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Post by andrewdsz on Jun 1, 2004 16:53:49 GMT -5
No official announcement about the re-release of GX-13R yet. But the GX-01RG did re-release after the exclusive chogokin expo 2003 show, with a different box(the stupid fuccking BANDAI... ...).
Buy it or not, it is all up to you. I got my set, i donno about u.
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Post by ptjoe on Jun 1, 2004 17:22:03 GMT -5
I'm looking at a GX-01RG now on sale for around $50. I understand your frustration. I really don't think it's right to release limited edition items if they are going to have a full production build later on. It devalues them significantly. Especially if it's only a color change. That is exactly what I'm worried about...
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Post by Jryu on Jun 1, 2004 18:55:20 GMT -5
I can see why rereleasing a Ltd. item could be a source of frustration only if the price of the rerelease is significantly lower than the original Ltd. It would piss me off that I paid a premium and could have saved money but that's just being pissed at myself for not waiting. However, if you were to buy one now and then worry about it devaluing, is resale the reason you're buying it in the first place ? If it's going to just sit there on your shelf as a showpiece then it wouldn't matter as much since you're just going to keep it. If you're buying a piece as an investment with all intents to resell later, there are prolly much easier things to invest in and get a more likely return. The GX01RB if a fine example of high appreciation but I doubt that anyone that has one seriously contemplates selling it if they are a purist. I'm a relative newcomer to the SOC but I have quite a few old chogokins from my childhood. However, Zoids are my main focus right now and their appreciation and depreciation fluctuates wildy since Tomy seems to suprise us with rereleases every year. It's just a part of the game as a hard core collector I suppose. Sell high, buy low as always.  And to think, a original release red gorilla kit (Iron Kong MK II Ltd) that is more easily available as a rerelease (Iron Kong PK in a slightly different red color) was sold in February for over $2600. I myself sold a original Salmander F2 for about $1250 last month. A recolored recent version of the same kit sells for $9.99 at KB. Would I be pissed if a rerelease came about and devalued the kit? Yeah but not really at the manufacturer because there will always be someone that wants it because it's the original. Also, for the record, Ken over at Toy Wave said that he expects the GX-13R to be released sometime during the summer. j*ryu I'm looking at a GX-01RG now on sale for around $50. I understand your frustration. I really don't think it's right to release limited edition items if they are going to have a full production build later on. It devalues them significantly. Especially if it's only a color change. That is exactly what I'm worried about... |
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Post by andrewdsz on Jun 1, 2004 20:19:52 GMT -5
One thing i want to mention, the re-release version of GX-13R wont devaluate the expo one at all. The expo version of GX-01RG just sold over 200$ at Yahoo Japan, even nothing differences but the box.
Think about it deeper, the 1974 version chogokin mazinger z GA-01, can be sold over 700$ via the 1984 re-released one can only be sold over 300$.
Even though only the box is different, the memorial value is quiet different.
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Post by Jryu on Jun 2, 2004 0:24:05 GMT -5
Exactly, the intangible memorial value will always be priceless to those who treasure it. Nicely put! j*ryu One thing i want to mention, the re-release version of GX-13R wont devaluate the expo one at all. The expo version of GX-01RG just sold over 200$ at Yahoo Japan, even nothing differences but the box. Think about it deeper, the 1974 version chogokin mazinger z GA-01, can be sold over 700$ via the 1984 re-released one can only be sold over 300$. Even though only the box is different, the memorial value is quiet different. |
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Post by ptjoe on Jun 2, 2004 0:28:50 GMT -5
I understand your points. I'm faced with the fact that I like the GX-13R color scheme, but don't want to pay a premium price. I'm willing to wait for a re-release for those purposes, but will gladly pay for it if that is my only option.
These are not investments for me, but some people may see them that way. If they go up in value, then that is a positive side effect! I wasn't aware that the box made such a difference in value.
I'm going to get this soon!
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Post by andrewdsz on Jun 2, 2004 8:50:59 GMT -5
Plus, this GX-13R is for the 30th chogokin anniversary. Im sure the value of it will over 1000$ later on, which become another legendary SOC.
This time is not like last year(the regular GX-01RG re-released after two months of expo), no any official announcement about repoduction of GX-13R till september.
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Post by Chen on Jun 2, 2004 10:50:25 GMT -5
What they should have done was add an extra to the GX-13R Expo version like little pewter statues of the pilots like the black SOC's have. Then release GX-13R in the summer without them, it would make the Expo version be a little more special than just having a different box.
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Post by changetter123 on Jun 14, 2004 21:46:31 GMT -5
Question: Is it possible to get the GX-13R for 180 usd? I'm seeing few of them selling for that price and was wondering that how is it possible? Cause even with mail order from the web site it's 24,000 + yen before shipping. Anyone knows about this?  |
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Post by dme3o on Jun 15, 2004 19:02:39 GMT -5
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Post by andrewdsz on Jun 15, 2004 19:43:39 GMT -5
Question: Is it possible to get the GX-13R for 180 usd? I'm seeing few of them selling for that price and was wondering that how is it possible? Cause even with mail order from the web site it's 24,000 + yen before shipping. Anyone knows about this? I have no idea where that price is coming from. Come on, make some single sense, this is a 23000 yen price LIMITED EDITION toy, 180 is not gonna get you anything. Just like if somebody is selling a Grendizer GX-04S for 180 or a daigokin mazinger -Z for 400, if it is online, i will never risk it. If you pay 180 online and thinking that you will get anything, you'd be nuts. |
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Post by dme3o on Jun 15, 2004 19:46:04 GMT -5
what are you talking about? I'm selling you a GX-06 at a steal!! LOL!!  |
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Post by changetter123 on Jun 15, 2004 22:08:27 GMT -5
Hmm.. I'll have my bro to meet this seller in person see if he's for real or just another bsing seller on the net.
To be continued...
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Post by andrewdsz on Jun 16, 2004 8:00:12 GMT -5
what are you talking about? I'm selling you a GX-06 at a steal!! LOL!! Carlo, im doing the delivery myself!! ;D ;D ;D |
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Post by chogokinabdul on Jun 17, 2004 0:02:41 GMT -5
 oh my god ...... I am still confused .... which version to pick!! I like the metalick collore of dancouga's face!!.. but still the gx13-R is cool looking!! ... oh I need to decide!
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Post by ataru on Jun 17, 2004 6:48:42 GMT -5
If you're trying to decide between the gx-13 and the gx-13r, one factor to consider besides the cost is your lighting conditions. The gx-13 with its glossy paint job, metallic and chrome parts looks really awesome in the right light, but if your light source is just a ceiling lamp or something it won't look nearly as cool as it could. You also need good light to make the dark grey parts look dark grey instead of black, and it's cooler when you can clearly see that the land cougar and eagle are black while the rest is grey. The gx-13r looks great in good light too I'm sure, but it would look better in poor light than the gx-13 thanks to its lighter flat paint job. As far as anime accuracy goes, if you care, neither of them are quite right- dancougar's color is actually between the 2. The red parts are red in the show, like the gx-13, not pink like the gx-13r. The gx-13r has a more accurately colored daigun however. At first I was psyched about the gx-13r, then saw that it wasn't going to be generally available and carefully reconsidered my options after comparing pics. Ended up deciding I preferred the gx-13 anyway, because of the metallic stuff. My perfect dancougar would have been the gx-13 colors painted with flat paint and panel lines like the gx-13r, gx-13r colored daigun, gx-13 non-weathered booster, and gx-13 metallic and chrome parts. Well I guess I can dream.  |
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Post by changetter123 on Jun 17, 2004 6:49:47 GMT -5
No need to decide, if you like Dancouga and are a SOC collector I suggest get it while it still cheap, who knows the price might go up....  |
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Post by dme3o on Jun 17, 2004 7:19:28 GMT -5
Question: Where are you guys planning on getting your GX-13R or GX-13 from? |
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Post by andrewdsz on Jun 17, 2004 7:48:54 GMT -5
oh my god ...... I am still confused .... which version to pick!! I like the metalick collore of dancouga's face!!.. but still the gx13-R is cool looking!! ... oh I need to decide! If you have fairly large amount of budget, i recommend you to get GX-13R first, because it is pretty rare even now. GX-13 is always availble everywhere on the interent, you can purchase it anytime you have extra money. |
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