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Post by dogmeatsausage on Sept 28, 2004 1:06:36 GMT -5
My Combattler v soc has suddenly developed a problem and I wanted to see if anyone else has this problem or can tell me how to fix it. Once he is combined as Combattler, the top part of him (the torso ) pops out really easily especially if I try and raise his arm. Does anyone know how to make the torso fit more securely?
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Post by Omni Existence on Sept 28, 2004 3:51:37 GMT -5
Check your Battle Machine 3. Make sure that the "claws" are retracted fully, and flat against the base of the claw housing. I thought I had the very same same problem with the GX-03B that I purchased. Upon closer inspection, I found out that the claw was not retracted fully. After fixing that, the problem was gone. Hope that helps!
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Post by Chen on Sept 28, 2004 10:40:10 GMT -5
I had the same problem too, the "claws" on the dozer are super stiff and you really need to use some force to push them in or pull them out.
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Post by dogmeatsausage on Sept 28, 2004 11:58:41 GMT -5
yes I tried and checked for that on machine 3 but I think the problem is with #2. If I seperate #2 from combattler's body I notice that his chest piece is sort of loose and will fold downwards very easy causing the torso section to pop out in robot mode. It has that "pin?" joint so I'm not sure how to tighten it, or if that's even possible. I think that's the problem If you guys have any ideas for that please let me know. p
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Post by mpchi on Sept 29, 2004 0:45:05 GMT -5
I know what you are talking about. That section is very tricky. Too bad its been too long since I did the gattai. But I can tell you that, if your upper torso is kind of loose or fall off, you are not connecting it right. And yes, it happens even if you have the claws of #3 all the way in. When you did it right, the thing locks quite tight, and only comes off if you lift the red plastic back center section at a certain angle, or push it way down by force. And following the way the instruction tells you usually doesn't get the job done most of the time. (which I think is align the diecast front, then push down the red plastic shoulder down)
I just went and fiddled with mine, finding no exact way to do this. I made sure the claws on 3 goes as low as it gets. Then i kind of follow the way the manual tells you, but kind of slightly nudge the top torso (#2) red plastic section down a bit here & there. After a few times of failure, it finally locked down. I do find that on mine when I did it right, the front chest gap (orange) would be flush (no more orange visible), while the on the back, you kind of see 1/3 of the 2 screw holes on the back of the red plastic on #2, meaning the connection between #2 & #3 on the back is not flush. You see quite a bit of gap, enough to show through a bit of those 2 screw holes. If you actually make the gap on Combattler's back to flush, hiding the 2 screw holes completely, the whole thing comes loose. Same thing if you have it tight already, then force the red plastic shoulder down to hide those holes completely, it comes loose again. So the key for mine is to get the front gap flush & perfect, while the gap on the back to be a bit wide, wide enough to show like 1/3 of the 2 screw holes. In this position, mine lock nice & tight.
Hope its not too confusing, but that's how mine work. Haha, now I have to fix mine again after trying to prove my "hiding 2 screw holes completely won't work" theory. ;D
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Post by dogmeatsausage on Sept 29, 2004 12:57:04 GMT -5
thanks for your reply. I have been trying that method but now i'm thinking my figure is just too loose now. The torso seems to fit into #3 too easily. With your figure, once #2 and #3 are connected for gattai, if you pull very gently downward on the top center of the red chestplate does that pop the torso out very easily? That's seemingly the problem with mine. The chest plate folds down so easily that it constantly pops the torso. The torso seems to always fit very snug and tight until I tap on that chest piece or move the arms. Does that mean my figure is just too loose for repair? I may need to get a new one one day, he has been dropped a few times
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Post by bootx2 on Sept 29, 2004 13:00:03 GMT -5
I have the same problem w/ my #2 piece. I thought it was the #3 piece as well, but it's the chest plate the always folds down. I guess mine is not as bad as yours by the way you describe it. I just "handle with care".
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Post by mpchi on Sept 29, 2004 14:47:00 GMT -5
dogmeatsausage, If you are talking about pulling the red chestplate (diecast), and the thing comes loose, most likely you still haven't lock the thing right. That happens when the #2 is not lock in place. But when it does lock, you can't pull the diecast chestplate at all, as if its super glued! If you force it, you'll chip some orange paint (which I did unfortunately when the first time I locked it right by accident, then I tried to force it out ) When its locked right, the diecast chest sits tight. Only moving the back red shoulder (plastic) will get it loose. Have you try to get that gap in the back & showing 1/3 of crew holes suggestion in my last post? It may work, but needs a number of trys to get it right, even now for myself. I am still thinking yours is not really gotten too loose, but didn't get the #2 sits right. Unless, you have done so much gattai with it that you totally wear off the red plastic (which you should be able to see). If not, its just that its not sitting right. From your description, it sounds more like that than the plastic got wore off too much. When I first got mind years ago, I've always thought that the chest is crap, as I follow the instructions to boot, and it just heck of loose like you mentioned. It just pops off everytime I try pose him & move the arms around. So one day I spend a lot of time fiddling with it, trying to combine #2 & #3 slightly differently, push it here & there, snug it here & there, then all of a sudden, BAAMMM! It locked like super glued! Then, I was a bit worried. "Did I jammed the thing too hard that it got stuck now?", I thought. So I unwisely yank the thing out from the diecast chest plate, causing the couple paint chips I still have today. But because of the incident, I realized the thing CAN lock tight if done right. Just very tricky that it only works once out of a number of trys. And since then, I am able to do it right in like 2 or 3 trys, and the thing stay put. Don't worry too much yet. It could be just that you loose the touch on that thing, or haven't been playing it for a while, and forgot how it worked. And even if you did wear off the red plastic, you just need to find out exactly where the area got worn out that connects to parts of #3. Then use a drop or two of super glue(use liquid, gel is too thick for this) to thicken (not to glue it to any other parts ;D just thickening) the red worn out plastic tab/peg or whatnot. Let it dry for a few hours to a day. Then it should be tight again. I used that to improve my Combattler "Grand Dasher" ankle, now he is less likely to nose dive on me. See if that helps. And don't whip out the super glue unless for sure you wore off plastic that you can spot. As you know having super glue in visible spot is not a very good thing, unless that is your last resort to save your Combattler. I am thinking its still because #2 is just not sitting right to cause the looseness, as it sounds exactly like mine when I didn't do it right even as of today.
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Post by dogmeatsausage on Sept 29, 2004 15:02:50 GMT -5
thanks a lot mpchi, I did try the thing with showing the screws but i had a hard time with it so maybe i didn't get it right. I;m going to really tinker with it and try to get it like you said, my combattler already has paint wear from gattai anyway. the red plastic is only worn down very slightly so i will save super glue for last resort. let me try those ways and get back to you thanks for your in depth response i appreciate it p ;D
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Post by mpchi on Sept 29, 2004 15:51:48 GMT -5
Not problem dude. Hope it works out for you. Just be a little patient with it.
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Post by dogmeatsausage on Sept 29, 2004 18:14:23 GMT -5
hey mpchi, i think i got what your talking about, but the red plastic is a little too worn down to keep the torso locked in very long, so how should I try the superglue trick?
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Post by gatchaman on Sept 29, 2004 19:12:57 GMT -5
Hi, I have a megazine that with pictures for combination of combattler V. It shows you the correct way for fitting the #2 into #3. I don't mind to scan it and mail to you if you are interested.
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Post by dogmeatsausage on Sept 29, 2004 20:10:05 GMT -5
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Post by mpchi on Sept 29, 2004 20:20:30 GMT -5
The scans might help dogmeatsausage, gatchman!
dogmeatsausage, can't really give you any specifics on where to use the super glue drop to thicken the plastic, as I never need to use that on mine yet. I guess would be try to locate exactly where #2's red plastic locks directly to the #3 blue diecast. See where the knob/peg/hook that supposedly lock them in place, then add a drop or two of super glue on that worn out knob/peg/hook thingie (on plastic, not diecast) to let the dried up super glue drop to give it back some thickness. Something like that.
But again, don't use the super glue method unless you are really sure about pinpointing the cause of the loose torso, which should be directly caused by the worn out area you spot. Once the super glue is on, its not going to come off, and the plastic won't look as smooth & nice as it used to. So don't just make a wild guess here. And maybe wait for gatchman's scan to see if it is helpful to fix your problem first.
Again, while you are fiddling with it, remember that whenever the front chest (diecast) plate is slightly movable, the thing is not locked right.
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Post by Pulse on Sept 30, 2004 7:19:23 GMT -5
I had a similar problem and found a, fairly, easy answer.
Put the lower three together. This gives you something to hold on to.
Make sure the chest machine is folded up right. If you don't have it in just the right shape it's going to be to narrow to stay in place.
Now, starting in the front, line up the two catches with the chest leaned forward.
Now roll the chest into place. Push it as far in as you can.
You'll be pushing back and down at the same time.
This should secure it in place. If it doesn't, turn the whole thing around and, carefully, pull down on the top/back of the toy. This will "seat" things into place.
The important things here are: Make sure it's is transformed right and rolling it into place. I've not had a problem with mine since I figured this out.
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Post by gatchaman on Sept 30, 2004 18:56:30 GMT -5
Hi, I have e-mail the pictures today and hope this will solve your problem. For those of you who wish to have it, do let me know and I will send it to you.
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