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Post by Mazinish on Dec 17, 2006 10:28:41 GMT -5
Hi guys, any info/help provided would be greatly apreciated, which one of these(1/60, 1/48) is the way to go and why?   |
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Post by Ben-Ohki on Dec 17, 2006 11:02:29 GMT -5
ok - I'll bite first.  Yamato's two scale line-ups are very different products... but both are highly collectible designs. I'll just list the main points of each... 1/48 Scale are:The BIG one - the ultimate in "perfect-variable" for folks who've been waiting for a big model Valkyrie ever since they laid eyes on G1 Jetfire. Super-detailed - including working landing gear, pivoting flaps, hidden heat-shield and opening cockpit canopy, gunpod that actually extends from compact (for loading on the fighter) to full rifle mode. Several variants and repaints, several add-on kits available now. Mostly plastic - it'd probably be too heavy otherwise. 1/60 Scale:Smaller - but more or less anime-accurate design. More die-cast bits and pieces (especially the legs). Several in-scale counterparts - the CMS Milia figures, the Quadlun-Rau figures, the new Macross Zero valkyries (all of these are also 1/60 - a big plus in my book). Not "perfect variable" however - the legs have to come off and then reattach in order to get that anime-look. A little easier on the budget. More varients to collect - including the very popular but rarely seen VE-1. |
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Post by howieh on Dec 18, 2006 6:53:25 GMT -5
As always, I stand by the 1/60s. I don't care too much about the detachable legs but I do care a lot about lots o' metal in my toys. The big ones are neat and you should at least own one (I own two) but in my opinion, I think the smaller ones fit the bill better.
I like little details but I don't fret when toys don't have them. I think they are neat bells and whistles and still see them as such. There has been no point in my time of displaying my toys where I actually keep the toys in a mode to show off the details (open canopies, raised flaps, et cetera). I think the 1/60s look a bit chunkier, which I really like. Especially in GERWALK mode, I think the stockier appearance of the 1/60s really help bring a heftier feel to the three modes. Can you see that I'm still a big fan of the chunky monkeys?
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Post by mojacko on Jan 10, 2007 23:22:39 GMT -5
both of the 1:60's & 1:48's have great articulation....but in terms of Metal parts...think 1:60 are much heavier....1:48 are more anime accurate coz they dont need to be detached!!! if ur not tight on the budget get both & them!!! i own 1 of each & lots of those Old School Valks....long live d chunkS!!!
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Post by Omni Existence on Jan 12, 2007 6:29:52 GMT -5
Okay, as of right now, the 1/60's are the way to go.
Initially, a lot of Macross fans thought that the 1/48 was "IT." How little we knew that Yamato was planning to release the other next gen Valkyries in 1/60 scale. Right now, the 1/60's are the most complete line of Macross toys.
The 1/60 line is the only Macross line that includes the two-seater variants (VE-1 Elintseeker & VT-1 Super Ostrich), enemy mechs (Queadluun Rau), and next gen fighters (VF-0's and more recently the YF-19). Also, from the rumor mill, the toy dubbed as the "coffee table" (imagine a 1/60 HWR-00-Mk II Monster), might see release in the future.
Have at least one 1/48, get the 1/60's.
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Post by lurkerx on Jan 12, 2007 11:09:12 GMT -5
If you intend to collect a more inclusive array of the toys then 1/60 is in fact the way to go you’ve got more variety of toys from the matchbox zentreadi battle pods & other toys to the newly released valkyries all @ 1/60
However, if you intend to get the biggest & best representation of the Valkyrie Vf-1 ever produced by mankind then you’d have to go 1/48
Actually, when you think about it [as a macrossworlder pointed out] the 1/48 offers a more complete array of Vf-1 now that the angel bird, stealth, Low vis. has been released the only ones missing are the 2 seaters Vf-1D, VE-1 & VT-1 3 missing
Whereas the 1/60s are missing both versions of the Low visibility, Stealth, and angelbird. 4 missing
You can also look at it from this standpoint:
The 1/60 is much like the trial run for yamato plagued with QC and design flaw problems rivaling that of the [dare I say it] Toynami’s MPC alpha.
The 1/48s are sheer near perfection.
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Post by Omni Existence on Jan 12, 2007 12:06:02 GMT -5
You can also look at it from this standpoint: The 1/60 is much like the trial run for yamato plagued with QC and design flaw problems rivaling that of the [dare I say it] Toynami’s MPC alpha. OMFG!!!!  You did NOT just say THAT!? I shall SMITE THEE!!!  lol j/k ;D |
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Post by pinoy78 on Jan 12, 2007 15:59:57 GMT -5
NEW 1/60's (VF-0S, VF-0A, YF-19, Rau) > OLD 1/60's (VF-1's)
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Post by Ben-Ohki on Jan 12, 2007 21:15:02 GMT -5
But it's still scale - you have to go by the cockpit to tell that the seat would not fit a 1/48 pilot figure.... the point is that VF-1 series were the smallest mecha, pure and simple.
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Post by quest on Jan 13, 2007 7:17:20 GMT -5
i still prefer the 1/60s as well...WAY more diecast, easier to transform, better fighter mode, better proportions (arms mostly) in Battroid, WAY cheaper, and most importanly, you can get any valk ever shown on screen.
while the 1/48s are big, they are by far my least favorite macross toy...then again, i still prefer the 1/72 yf-19 over the 1/60 version.
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Post by shantastic on Jan 26, 2007 20:10:18 GMT -5
I vote for the 1/60's mainly for reasons already stated: die-cast content (love the weight on these things,) i like the more chunky look, easier on your wallet if you're just starting to collect valkyries, and bigger selection.
I've always felt the 1/60's are more of the "standard" size for general collectors while anything bigger were for the more "serious" Macross collectors. Test drive the 1/60's first. Even if you end up going larger scale, you won't regret having some 1/60's in your collection.
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Post by mojacko on Jan 26, 2007 21:13:55 GMT -5
i agree...its like testing the water before jumping into it!!! after all you wouldnt want to regret at the end.....but with Yamato....you couldnt get wrong!!!! ;D I vote for the 1/60's mainly for reasons already stated: die-cast content (love the weight on these things,) i like the more chunky look, easier on your wallet if you're just starting to collect valkyries, and bigger selection. I've always felt the 1/60's are more of the "standard" size for general collectors while anything bigger were for the more "serious" Macross collectors. Test drive the 1/60's first. Even if you end up going larger scale, you won't regret having some 1/60's in your collection. |
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Post by 00silvergt on Feb 7, 2007 21:27:58 GMT -5
Hmmm...
Buying Yamato Valks is my worst buying decision, ever. >$140 + shipping was all wasted on 6 of these. Expensive. I may sell them. But I don't know if I can do that to another human being!
I guess I'm a bit biased. I had more fun playing with the chunky monkeys, BTW. But if you ignore my anger towards Yamato for selling these overpriced, overrated, poor quality valks, then read what Ben said, he pretty much summed it all up.
Okay...I'll try to be more elaborate. Both Yamato Valks are highly detailed, but that doesn't mean it is detailed well. On earlier Valks you will notice the lining will fade away or get crooked in some places.
The 1/60 is a bit more durable than the 1/48, both don't stand to usual play like the chunkey monekys. Transforming either the 1/48 or the 1/60, albeit more so on the 1/48 is a daunting task, you have to be real careful as you move every piece and you earn each milimeter. You will hear plastic creakying...if you hear it snap, oops that's it. You will be able to change forms maybe 3 times and then the whole thing becomes loose. Think of it not as toys, but as plastic models.
One thing to keep in mind, the Macross Zeroes 1:60 is the same size as the 1:48 Macross.
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Post by borg001 on Jun 28, 2007 21:29:18 GMT -5
the Macross Zeroes 1:60 is the same size as the 1:48 Macross???
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Post by Omni Existence on Jun 29, 2007 6:47:15 GMT -5
the Macross Zeroes 1:60 is the same size as the 1:48 Macross??? Yes, just about. The VF-1 by far is the smallest among the Variable Fighter designs in the Macross universe, so a 1/48 VF-1x is just about the same size as a 1/60 VF-0x. Here's a list of the size comparisons (in fighter mode), based on the Macross Compendium: VF-1x = 14.23m VF-0x = 18.69 m VF-11x = 16.02 m VF-17x = 16.13m YF-19 = 18.62 m YF-21/VF-22 = 19.62m VF-19A = 18.62m VF-19F/S = 18.47m SV-51 = 22.77m Hope this helps. ;D |
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Post by borg001 on Jun 29, 2007 20:40:23 GMT -5
I See, thanks for the info, I saw the pic of Super stealth VF-1J, look awesome!!! but unable to fingd review on it, any bro out there who own this beauty know the cons and pros... the paint job, the built... etc Thanks alot
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Post by lurkerx on Jul 9, 2007 16:45:34 GMT -5
Here you go, its the one on the right:  As far as a review is concern its pretty much the same as the rest of the 1/48 releases in the past. Its paint job is flawless and since its a more recent release there are no QC issues. Its paint scheme really works for me |
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Post by Nostalgia on Jul 10, 2007 4:58:53 GMT -5
I See, thanks for the info, I saw the pic of Super stealth VF-1J, look awesome!!! but unable to fingd review on it, any bro out there who own this beauty know the cons and pros... the paint job, the built... etc Thanks alot Paintjob and built is the same as any other 1/48s, but the color scheme is excellent. I bought 3 of the deluxe sets, that's how much I love it ;D |
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Post by borg001 on Jul 10, 2007 9:11:30 GMT -5
THanks for the info,LurkerX and Nostalgia... I try the get the super stealth special set, but all sold out..... will get the Valkyrie Stealth instead
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