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Post by mannyD on Apr 17, 2006 22:48:26 GMT -5
hey guys, what's the background on the MG Version 2.0 kits? like this new gundam Mk-II Ver 2 Titans: "Newly-designed joints allow it incredibly realistic posing -- especially in the legs. A tighter bend at the knee, and a joint that divides the heel and toe of the foot, provides better balance for ""action"" poses, and gives your Mk-II a realistic appearance when it's crouching, as though it's about to spring into action at any time! The kit is all molded in colour and snaps together; vinyl tubing is included for weapons detail. Also included are three scale figures (one pilot and two maintenance crew) for positioning around the Mk-II while it's "docked". Not just an improvement on the original kit, the Version 2.0 takes the Mk.II to a whole new level!" definitely it is nicer and more detailed, and better articulated than the first MG Mk-II. is the "Ver.2.0" the same as the "Ver.Ka" series of MG kits? or it is plainly just a great improvement on the Mk-II MG kit (which makes the first MG Mk-II less desirable hehe). man, this version kicks ass! makes me want to model gundam MG kits again
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Post by potchip on Apr 18, 2006 9:53:10 GMT -5
ver2.0 refers to a redesigned kit for a previously released model. There are currently 3 ver 2.0s, rx178 Mk2 v2.0 (AEUG and Titans version which are essentially the same except the waist joint and base), rx78-2 ver2.0 (game version) and zeta gundam ver 2.0. Ver ka refers to katoki designs, some MGs are designed by katoki but not labled, such as the old zeta, while others such as wing 0, rx-78-2, ball etc are released with the ver ka label(which often means a price premium).
Nowadays the trend is that 2.0 kits being bandai's way to ridiculously inflat their price, such as zeta. In comparison rx78's 2.0 is worth every penny, however mk2 ver 2.0 will depend on how much of a fan are you. Imho the base is not worth the extra price but Titans plastic colour isn't great without painting.
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Post by Chen on Apr 19, 2006 17:13:49 GMT -5
It looks like the new versions are using a variation of the skeleton used in the PG Strike kit.
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Post by jwm on Apr 19, 2006 17:23:16 GMT -5
It looks like the new versions are using a variation of the skeleton used in the PG Strike kit. I just packed all my PG kits away in storage except for the Strike. It wasn't that I like the Strike's design that much better than the others, but the Strike is the only PG piece that's not a total pain in the butt to mess with. I wish they'd do an RX78/2, and ZakuII version 2 with a re-designed frame so they'd have the same solid feel, balance, and poseability that the Strike has. JWM
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Post by f360 on Apr 20, 2006 0:37:31 GMT -5
It looks like the new versions are using a variation of the skeleton used in the PG Strike kit. Not really,, the Strike and the the MKII are differen't designs with different internal frame. For the Ver 2.0 MKII they are using a variation of the Frame from their PG MKII. Think of the MKII VER2.0 as small Perfect Grade of the PG MKII. The other Version 2.0 are base on differen't things altogether.
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Post by Chen on Apr 20, 2006 16:42:58 GMT -5
Whoops my bad. I thought were looking at a updated PG MKII kit.
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Post by heavyarmscustom on Apr 21, 2006 2:10:09 GMT -5
hey Guy's long timw no post I have to say being an avid Gundam MG builder and I have built close too all of them now. I really like the new ver 2.0 I have built two MkII's and the Zeta as well as the Nemo and they have been the funnest builds since I started gundams back in 99. I'm getting the Titans MkII I like th enew waist joint that added and hope Bandai will continue updating their frames as time goes on. I do belive the advancement in the PG line helpd out alot in the new Ver.2 frames. well I wringing my hands for the titans MKII and Gyan MG and the possable F90 gundam next in line. till next time clifton P.S. I hope one day soon they come out with a MG Methus so we could have all the ARGAMA'S gundams in MG
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Post by mannyD on Apr 21, 2006 5:10:01 GMT -5
...however mk2 ver 2.0 will depend on how much of a fan are you. Imho the base is not worth the extra price but Titans plastic colour isn't great without painting. the MK-II ver 2 is a complete redesign kit, look at the difference in the size of the torso: (picture borrowed from dalong.net, this site is awesome the ver 2 is bigger hehe.
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Post by potchip on Apr 21, 2006 6:09:40 GMT -5
I was refering to the difference between 2 releases of mk2 ver2.0. AEUG ver is more expensive at 4000 yen, Titan with the 'improved' waist' costs 3500. Basically the display stand costs 500 yen, one SD figure. Nothing against those Bandai engineers but I don't consider the waist an 'improvement', if you've seen how ridiculous the actual waist turning is (anything above say...20 degrees rotation). MS are not mechwarriors, and they look funny with a 360 degree rotating torso. In comparison the foward/back/left/side movement of rx87-2 ver2.0 is much more desirable...(which came at the cost of a torso frame).
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Post by mannyD on Apr 21, 2006 6:31:27 GMT -5
yeah hehe, the rx-178 mk2 AEUG is fine with me
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Post by mannyD on Apr 22, 2006 8:22:20 GMT -5
here's the MG Zeta version 2: (pictures borrowed from dalong.net) guess i'll be picking this up soon, my first MG after a 11 year hiatus. dalong.net inspired me to have a crack at this great hobby again btw, the zeta above is unpainted.
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Post by mannyD on Apr 24, 2006 5:00:03 GMT -5
hey guys, newbie question here- the MG version 2 series are clearly updated versions (of Zeta gundam, MK-II, and MK-II Titans).
then i've read somewhere that the MGs of the "one year war 0079" or OYW 0079 series are based on a compilation movie of the initial 0079 TV series (please correct me if i'm wrong). and these MGs look updated and improved also (includes Amuro's RX-78-2, green Zaku II, Gouf, Dom, and a pink char's Gelgoog).
as a newbie, is it better to combine the MGs of version 2 and OYW series to have an updated line up of Master Grades?
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Post by potchip on Apr 24, 2006 6:21:31 GMT -5
In short, OYW series are based off a playstation game. The models come in 'game colours', a variation from the original colours. Other than the RX-78-2 which was completely remodelled, the zaku2/gouf/gelgoog/doom are mostly the same as the old models (structure-wise) with VERY MINOR difference(maybe better plastic quality), due to the new moulds (old ones being, old and not usable for new production of quality) rather than any design improvements.
The newer MGs that are different, structure-wise are: Acguy, RX-78-2 OYW, Gundam Mk2 v2.0, Zeta 2.0 and Nemo. "Updated" is relative. Zaku2 F2 used the Gouf frame for example, and the Seed series started using shoulder joints of good mobility. Dalong can pretty much tell you all about the differences between new an old models. Older models also tend to suffer in the quality department due to poorer plastic quality and deteriortating condition of injection moulds.
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Post by mannyD on Apr 24, 2006 8:10:16 GMT -5
ok tnx for the info bro. i thought the OYW 0079 MG series is based on the movie compilation hehe. yeah i think ur right on the OYW zaku, the zaku2 F2 looks more solid and better designed. but it does not come with char's colors though. hey if there is a toss up, by criteria of good looks and overall design, which is the better rx-78-2 version? ver 1.5, ver Ka, or ver OYW?
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Post by gizmo on Apr 24, 2006 11:54:12 GMT -5
Bro, I got all 3 versions. Get the OYW. It's much more solid, detailed, better proportioned and very pose-able (even than the PG) out-of-the-box kit.
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Post by f360 on Apr 25, 2006 7:03:47 GMT -5
Yup,, the OYW version is the way to go.
The V1.5 has major improvements on the Lower part of the gundam,, (legs) The Ver. Ka has a Overall improvement on the whole Gundam,,
And the OYW took all those improvements that work from the Previous models and Improve it even further.. the only thing it lacks is the Core fighter.
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Post by mannyD on Apr 26, 2006 8:31:09 GMT -5
ok i skipped the MG Zeta ver 2 for now, and got me a MG rx-78-2 OYW instead. i like it. i'm thinking of repainting the red and blue colors, make them darker. anyways, tnx for the heads up guys. i think this rx-78-2 really looks good and well articulated. i'm very happy with it.
on a different note, i'm also thinking of getting a char's zaku. is it ok to get an MG green Zaku II F2 and paint it with char's colors (red)?
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Post by potchip on Apr 26, 2006 9:08:41 GMT -5
ZakuII F2 is the ground type of ZakuII.... Char used Zaku2 S type... They are not related. MG Char's Zaku (old) has all the problems of an old MG model, in particular with regards to painting(armor parts have paint-unfriendly portions which requires glue/sanding/seam removal, eg arm/head), pipes (head pipe very difficult to fit/easy to break/too long/easy to fall off) and in general big headed. I have both both ZakuII R1 and R2, which shared the same problems of early ZakuIIs.
MG Char's Zaku is actually just a normal green Zaku with different weapons. For a true representation (leg booster) you should seek out the PG Char's ZakuII.
The newer ZakuII F2 is based off Gouf, and therefore faily posable with good armor seperation for painting. It's probably a better kit but it is not a space type ZakuII.
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Post by mannyD on Apr 26, 2006 9:27:34 GMT -5
potchip: tnx bro. to do an MG char's zaku, my only choice would be the 1995 kit char's zaku II s type? i'm ok with filling and sanding seams. but i do hope they would release a OYW char's zaku or a version 2
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Post by f360 on Apr 27, 2006 14:43:31 GMT -5
well if they ever release a O.Y.W Char Zaku II , you'll have to make sure it's a new version 2 and not just a recolor in new packaging like the Green OYW zaku II.
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