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Post by admin1 aka Ed on Apr 6, 2012 11:56:04 GMT -5
Has anyone else out there gained more respect for vintage "Whimsical" toys vs the more stoic super robots?
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Post by ancer on Apr 6, 2012 12:17:47 GMT -5
I find that it varies ... my friends really love the more modern stern looking figures on the shelf while the kids love the bright colors and quirky-ness of the older ones . I can't say I've gained respect so much as brought about more interest into collecting.
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Post by Mr. Ginrai on Apr 6, 2012 14:07:49 GMT -5
Ed,
do you mean vintage whimsical vs. vintage stoic, or vintage whimsical vs. modern like ancer commented on?
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Post by magengar on Apr 6, 2012 15:12:56 GMT -5
Ya know, I never thought there'd be THAT kind of a difference between the classic robots and today's modern mechs.
I get nostalgic feedback when folks my age and up see some of the classic robots in my collection such as my Mazinger items, especially the smaller "Shogun Warrior" gokins. The usual "I remember seeing that show when i was a kid" response. In very few cases I get lotsa respect over the classic bot toys.
But trip on this: I get feedback from some older folks who somehow nail it on the head ID'ing Transformers bots. They'll look at my Decepticon and say "that's So-n-So from such-n-such series", and I wonder how the old fart Knows about Transformers but not much about the classic bots! ;D
zozo-mag
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Post by xiombarg on Apr 6, 2012 15:42:30 GMT -5
Has anyone else out there gained more respect for vintage "Whimsical" toys vs the more stoic super robots? While I don't particularly go for the completely humorous stuff like Robocon, I really like a lot of the in-between stuff that adds a little more fun vs. tech such as some of the Time Bokan vehicles, Astro Boy, the first Drossel figure.. I absolutely love all the Panda Z designs. In a lot of ways the whimsical figures are a little more creative, thinking outside the box. So yeah, I would say so.
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Post by admin1 aka Ed on Apr 6, 2012 22:07:03 GMT -5
Well my first thought was to not categorize it as vintage vs new.....just kooky, odd, fun vs. the more stoic, heroic, type like super-robots.
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Post by admin1 aka Ed on Apr 6, 2012 22:08:59 GMT -5
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Post by magengar on Apr 7, 2012 13:28:06 GMT -5
Panda-Z friggin Rocks! ;D Too bad I only have one Panda-Z item, a small vinyl one... ...I'll have to seek more PZs. lol Another whimsey bot toy I'd like to have in my gear is Boss Borot, he's the robot King of Comedy- hands Down! ;D
zozo-mag
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Post by repairtechjon on Apr 7, 2012 13:36:10 GMT -5
I'll say I've certainly gained more respect and appreciation for the vintage (or new) whimsical toys, Japanese, or otherwise. There was always the smile, and enjoyment of seeing them just as the character, but the toys grew on me over the years as I started seeing all the little hidden gimmicks, springs, hatches, clear bits, that did sheer nonsense, lol. Much of the stuff enjoyed about stoic super robot toys, comes into play with the whimsical ones, yet it's not obvious at first until you aquire, and handle a few.
Not to mention the colors are a little different than stoic robots, and the whimsy really adds POP to a display shelf that people reach right for, and want to comment on.
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Post by xiombarg on Apr 7, 2012 15:13:33 GMT -5
That's true, the figures with more personality, stand out on the shelf. Whenever I've shown my collection to friends or relatives, without exception they want to know what's up with Panda Z.
I've wanted to pick up that Doraemon that came out about five or so years ago that had the little toys that roll out like a vending machine. Just haven't got around to it.
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Post by repairtechjon on Apr 7, 2012 16:36:38 GMT -5
Doraemon is a great example! Those 2 or 3 newer sets put out are almost exact repros. Almost solid diecast little heavy guys, for a great price. Noone has a chance trying to not giggle with that goofy toy, especially when you pull the tail, and the tummy pops out a prize! haha
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Post by TheMazingerZ on Apr 7, 2012 21:22:01 GMT -5
Stoic 100% and then some. I have no patience for anything whimsical. To me whimsical stuff is a waste of materials. Yeah, I've been called a "fuddy Duddy" before... ;D
}D
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Post by magengar on Apr 7, 2012 23:41:38 GMT -5
There ya have it, folks, from the man who has a Boss Borot in his collection. ;D ;D ;D zozo-mag Stoic 100% and then some. I have no patience for anything whimsical. To me whimsical stuff is a waste of materials. Yeah, I've been called a "fuddy Duddy" before... ;D }D
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Post by xiombarg on Apr 8, 2012 13:09:38 GMT -5
Stoic 100% and then some. I have no patience for anything whimsical. To me whimsical stuff is a waste of materials. Yeah, I've been called a "fuddy Duddy" before... ;D }D I think a lot of people, especially younger collectors, are fairly indifferent to the whole whimsical aesthetic. Heck some people even have strict criteria on what they can stomach in their super robot designs. Good ol' John (moderator emeritus) didn't like anything that involving animal transformations including GoLion! As far as a collection goes, I think throwing some whimsy in there spices it up and makes it so your shelves don't look so sterile. I like to keep my eyes open to anything that shows innovation in design so that my collection has a little bit of surprise and variation. The only thing that I feel is generally a waste of money are all the little chick figures. There are some noteworthy exceptions, but most of them are just.. "oh look, yet another piece of plastic showing us her a$$". Imagine how bizarre it would be to walk into a collection of these things, and they are out there.. a whole room of hundreds or even thousands of little plastic girly figures in various stages of undress and exposure. You could do a freaky Twilight Zone episode around that, have them come to life and rip their owners clothes off and kill him.. hmm. Anyway, back to topic.
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Post by TheMazingerZ on Apr 8, 2012 18:22:08 GMT -5
Yeah, the girly plastic figures have a ton of followers. Figma is all about that... and they are not very cheap either! Tony, Boss Borot is not whimsical!!! ;D }D
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Post by xiombarg on Apr 9, 2012 0:44:51 GMT -5
Ok, so the next question is what are your favorite (or interesting) whimsical pieces? I don't have time tonight, but I'll post up a couple of pieces here soon that I've seen or own.
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Post by zeomare on Apr 9, 2012 6:40:21 GMT -5
i love SD Gundams alot they are whimsical i do not really care what people think of them, some of my first model kits were SD's back in the 1980's and Macross kits, i do love the stoic serious stuff but i have always had a place in my heart for the comical stuff. I to love Time Bokan and Doraemon as well i also love Astroboy these will always have a special place in my collection
chris
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Post by admin1 aka Ed on Apr 9, 2012 8:01:05 GMT -5
Its funny to see these examples. My kids were completely tied to some J-characters that were whimsical in my collection.
So Doremon was kept! The repro was a no-brainer. Then my wife wanted to keep the SOC Boss. They also wanted a Muteking beetle toy and the octopus "head" from the same series.
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Post by xiombarg on Apr 9, 2012 13:21:45 GMT -5
Honestly there have been many SD Gundam designs that I have wished to be made into standard Gundam figures. That was one thing that really bummed me out about the Banpresto Musha Gundam series being ended as I thought they would be doing more of the great SD designs as it moved on. But for whatever reason it was stopped, which is still a mystery to me as sales were seemed good..
I think the only reason collectors tend to overlook the SD Gundams is because they've been around for so long and people don't tune into the expression and novelty of the figures anymore, and just take them for granted... but the same could also be said of all the old school whimsical pieces also. If you look at the newer SD-type gokin figures that Fewture and other companies are putting out, collectors eat these up! So I guess it's just an unfortunate mindset that collectors don't see the coolness in many of these figures we've mentioned generally. Too bad.
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Post by zeomare on Apr 9, 2012 20:39:31 GMT -5
actually some of the SDX chogkins have become quite rare and expensive now even worse is they are all going to be Tamashii Limited from this point on some fetch up to $300.00 now so they definitely are not a novelty anymore (sadly for me), once these little guys (kits) are painted and detailed they look stunning and really stand out on the shelves even more then the man standard type gundams due to their colorful designs and magic type jewel encrusted armor
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