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Post by kingdom2000toys on Jul 22, 2013 19:49:27 GMT -5
Toynami often makes product announcements at Comicon and you don't see them released for years if at all. Maybe this one really will happen at end of 2013 because they already have molds. But then they already have the Robotech Beta molds and the Shadow Beta is still a no-show after 2yrs. The 1/100 scale Elintseeker and SuperOstrich are still vaporware after 2 or 3 yrs after samples were shown. The Voltron stand is now reappearing after 3yrs or so hiatus. Shogun Warriors line are just now possibly getting a new entry after the Golion and Dairugger were released 3 or 4 yrs ago. So basically, I'll believe it when I see it. Absolutely... I won't hold my breath. They have screwed up deliveries before.
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Post by kamenrider on Jul 22, 2013 20:29:06 GMT -5
This is easy money for Toynami since its the same toy from 2005 save for light up eyes. So its safe to say they'll be releasing him. I still can't believe WEP did this. What a way to celebrate Voltron's 30th anniversary. Instead of giving the license to Bandai to give us an amazing piece worthy of it they give to Toynami to re-release his 20th anniversary tribute....
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Post by toyfan777 on Jul 22, 2013 21:18:35 GMT -5
This SUCKS I would rather BUY ten SOC's version of Golion/Voltron then get the Toynami one for FREE. It's a dated toy based on a 30+ year old toy and any who say it's as good as a modern SOC are delusional and only kidding themselves. The big announcement was that Bandai was going to release a SOC version of Golion/Voltron worldwide, instead Toynami swooped in a bought the license from WEP/CM at the last minute for the license to make toys of all versions of Voltron so it's gone from bad to worse. Toynami should stick with making stuffed toys and leave toys that need actual engineering to real companies and WEP/CM should take their heads outta their asses. So its confirmed that Bandai can't release their own version of Voltron or Golion?! Can't they do something like what Yamato did with their macross line? I know it would suck to make it an exclusive to Asia but at least fans in the US can buy from online stores, yes? I feel really cheesed off and like you, I would buy multiples of a SOC Golion!
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Post by xiombarg on Jul 22, 2013 21:32:43 GMT -5
For me it all depends on price. If it's relatively inexpensive I'll probably pick one up, but I do agree that I would much rather see a Bandai rendition instead of this getting milked once again.
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Post by toyfan777 on Jul 23, 2013 0:06:59 GMT -5
For me it all depends on price. If it's relatively inexpensive I'll probably pick one up, but I do agree that I would much rather see a Bandai rendition instead of this getting milked once again. Yeah, for me the price will be the key for me in picking this up. If its not overpriced, I will pick this piece up and display this version in combined mode while my 'plastic' version will be separated into their individual components. I'm absolutely seething right now at the thought that we might not see a SOC Voltron/GoLion. Not only will the toy be well made, it will be similar in scale with Daltanious!
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Post by toyfan777 on Jul 23, 2013 0:06:59 GMT -5
For me it all depends on price. If it's relatively inexpensive I'll probably pick one up, but I do agree that I would much rather see a Bandai rendition instead of this getting milked once again. Yeah, for me the price will be the key for me in picking this up. If its not overpriced, I will pick this piece up and display this version in combined mode while my 'plastic' version will be separated into their individual components. I'm absolutely seething right now at the thought that we might not see a SOC Voltron/GoLion. Not only will the toy be well made, it will be similar in scale with Daltanious!
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Post by mechapilot77 on Jul 23, 2013 14:57:37 GMT -5
So can someone explain the licensing to me on voltron? Does toynami's license preclude others from making say a "GoLion" as well? I mean Harmony Gold's stupid stranglehold on robotech and "macross" in the US doesn't prohibit bandai and yamato/arcadia from making macross stuff for japan. I take it the situation is not analogous? i don't care if an SOC Voltron doesn't happen so long as an SOC GoLion does happen!!
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Post by Chen on Jul 23, 2013 15:24:45 GMT -5
WEP owns the IP for Voltron, Golion, and Dairugger so it doesn't matter if Toynami makes a toy and call it Golion or Voltron. The same with Miracle they could have called it Dairugger but went with Voltron since the name is more recognizable.
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Post by demonseed on Jul 23, 2013 15:32:48 GMT -5
WEP owns the IP for Voltron, Golion, and Dairugger so it doesn't matter if Toynami makes a toy and call it Golion or Voltron. The same with Miracle they could have called it Dairugger but went with Voltron since the name is more recognizable. Dose the voltron lic include "voltron lll" aka Albegas? Fk it give me a soc Goriaon
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Post by mechapilot77 on Jul 23, 2013 15:42:39 GMT -5
WEP owns the IP for Voltron, Golion, and Dairugger so it doesn't matter if Toynami makes a toy and call it Golion or Voltron. The same with Miracle they could have called it Dairugger but went with Voltron since the name is more recognizable. gah....seems WEP is even worse than HG or at least has more of a stranglehold on the IP. :-(
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Post by Chen on Jul 23, 2013 16:39:19 GMT -5
WEP owns the IP for Voltron, Golion, and Dairugger so it doesn't matter if Toynami makes a toy and call it Golion or Voltron. The same with Miracle they could have called it Dairugger but went with Voltron since the name is more recognizable. Dose the voltron lic include "voltron lll" aka Albegas? Fk it give me a soc Goriaon I'm pretty sure Toei still owns the rights since WEP never made a show from it besides some promos to send to tv stations and thus never pursued the rights. Could explain how Evolution toys is making a Albegas figure.
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Post by mrclean08 on Jul 23, 2013 18:36:34 GMT -5
Do you guys think that there have been Voltron fans who have voiced out their opinions to WEP about giving Bandai a chance to produce an SOC? Or do you think that group is limited to fans like us just mostly here?
Also, how long until this Toynami license blows over until another company like Bandai can have a shot at it? Is it 2 years or something?
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Post by Chen on Jul 23, 2013 19:03:46 GMT -5
Not sure if WEP or casual fans know a lot about the SOC line. I think their aware of it but perhaps aren't diehard. As for how long they will have the license who knows but Toynami did announce a comic crossover with Robotech which makes zero sense but could have been part of the deal to entice WEP by saying that they will be teaming up with Harmony Gold to release this comic and get some cross promotion. collectiondx.com/news_item/72313/new_toynami_collectible_robotech_crossover_comic
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Post by xTIMMYxCOREx on Jul 23, 2013 19:22:55 GMT -5
Casual fans don't know about SOC or GoLion. Do you know how many times people think my Mazinger tattoo is a "Transformer" or "Mazinga" from Shogun Warriors? (He is but then they have no idea that was actually from Japan in the early 70s) same goes for Robotech and Macross!
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Post by demonseed on Jul 23, 2013 20:15:28 GMT -5
Do you guys think that there have been Voltron fans who have voiced out their opinions to WEP about giving Bandai a chance to produce an SOC? Or do you think that group is limited to fans like us just mostly here? Also, how long until this Toynami license blows over until another company like Bandai can have a shot at it? Is it 2 years or something? I made a point to voice my opinion on the forums.voltron.com I know its affiliated with the official voltron site and Jerremy from wep is a mod and posts there occasionally. Mode is a little more positive then here. I'm sure not all fans know of soc, but a lot must. If you collect to robots you must. I doubt most voltron fans know they were close to getting a soc golion.
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Post by toyfan777 on Jul 23, 2013 21:31:44 GMT -5
Darn it...I feel pretty demoralised now after reading the above posts on the licensing rights. Sure its just a toy but IMO only Bandai Japan can give is a decent Voltron III figure.
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Post by crpdiablos on Jul 23, 2013 22:03:08 GMT -5
By the time Bandai gets this they will be manufacturing lifesize versions that are fully functional
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Post by kingdom2000toys on Jul 23, 2013 22:30:18 GMT -5
Do you guys think that there have been Voltron fans who have voiced out their opinions to WEP about giving Bandai a chance to produce an SOC? Or do you think that group is limited to fans like us just mostly here? Also, how long until this Toynami license blows over until another company like Bandai can have a shot at it? Is it 2 years or something? Approx 3-4 months ago, I e-mailed WEP directly and asked for new companies to manufacture Voltron. I asked for any chances that Bandai or similar large companies that could bring a new flavor to the franchise. Toynami had done a good job of creating a new design with the 20th Anni version. To see a re-designing would be nice for the 30th Anni. And would be an excellent way to revitalize the franchise. It took over 1 week to get a response, but it was a form letter. "Thank you for being a fan. New "Exciting" Voltron products are going to be released over the coming months. Go Voltron!" - I was so upset with the sad "wasted response." WEP does not care about their fan base. They are not business people. They do not now how to put out a product that will DRIVE new and old fans to buy more of their stuff. They look at us as DUMB consumers, that will buy anything they put in front of us.
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Post by greengetterguy on Jul 23, 2013 22:50:46 GMT -5
Then we need to vote with our money. I for one will NEVER EVER buy Toynami Voltron as long as they keep rehashing the same old mold...
I have my torch lit for Bandai. If it doesn't happen in twenty years left in my life, maybe some young blood will take the torch. Send Wep and Bandai a message. If nobody buys that thing, then I'm SURE repective parties will come to their senses.
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Post by Watari on Jul 24, 2013 0:26:52 GMT -5
WEP owns the IP for Voltron, Golion, and Dairugger so it doesn't matter if Toynami makes a toy and call it Golion or Voltron. The same with Miracle they could have called it Dairugger but went with Voltron since the name is more recognizable. I thought TOEI still owns the Golion IP in Japan, that's why Bandai was able to include him in Super Robot Wars W last 2007. Please correct me if I'm wrong. My points are: • If TOEI owns the rights to Golion in Japan, then Bandai can still acquire the license from TOEI to produce an SOC version, BUT it will be for sale in JAPAN ONLY. • They'll only get in trouble with WEP if they start selling it overseas, and Bandai America doesn't distribute the SOC line in the US. Bluefin is the the US distributor of SOCs in America and I'm not sure what kind of relationship they have with Bandai. • If SOC Golion becomes a reality, can WEP stop an online retailer like HLJ or Amiami from selling the figure to US customers even though they are not based in the US?
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