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Post by mecha-mania on Jul 5, 2015 1:02:52 GMT -5
With regards to the MP Vehicle Voltron, they did released a subsequent version 2 that contain multiple fixes, however, those that received it early, ended up with version 1 and got stuck with a terrible product with multiple defects and I doubt that they got theirs exchanged, if I remembered correctly.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2015 1:07:42 GMT -5
With regards to the MP Vehicle Voltron, they did released a subsequent version 2 that contain multiple fixes, however, those that received it early, ended up with version 1 and got stuck with a terrible product with multiple defects and I doubt that they got theirs exchanged, if I remembered correctly. Even version 2 had its issues. No company is perfect, even "mighty" Bandai has quality issues now and then.
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Post by mecha-mania on Jul 5, 2015 1:08:35 GMT -5
Agree with Baron and Kamenrider that sentinel shouldn't be messing with complex combiner at the moment unless they are absolutely sure on what they are doing and as thing stands, the broken neck incident doesn't really inspire much confidence in us. And I maintain what I mentioned before I don't really mind sentinel sticking to a non-combiner, but highly articulate Dancougar (sort of an over glorified SRC) and retailing it at a lower cost. After all, I like the Sentinel Dancougar's fully combined look, but individual robots sucks, can really do without that. There is nothing complicated with Dancougar. It is one of the simplest combiners ever made. After looking at Sen-Ti-Nel's blog, it looks like the neck will break if the user is not careful with the head when either moving it, or popping it out/in to replace the face. yet to get my hands on the Sentinel one, but I did recalled I struggle quite a fair bit with my SOC one. but then again, it could just be me lol If it is a swappable part, then I guess its the manufacturer's responsibility to make it more durable, its not like a part that is not expected to be meddle much with. But yeah, there are also possibilities that the user applied too much force and broke it. Perhaps its best to monitor the situation a little closer and see if this is just an isolated case.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2015 1:23:28 GMT -5
There is nothing complicated with Dancougar. It is one of the simplest combiners ever made. After looking at Sen-Ti-Nel's blog, it looks like the neck will break if the user is not careful with the head when either moving it, or popping it out/in to replace the face. yet to get my hands on the Sentinel one, but I did recalled I struggle quite a fair bit with my SOC one. but then again, it could just be me lol If it is a swappable part, then I guess its the manufacturer's responsibility to make it more durable, its not like a part that is not expected to be meddle much with. But yeah, there are also possibilities that the user applied too much force and broke it. Perhaps its best to monitor the situation a little closer and see if this is just an isolated case. I updated my original post, so you can see the picture. Like I said before no company is perfect, I remember when many people complained about the DX SOC popping elbow. Which prompted Bandai to release a note with instructions to proper handle it. It work to some people while it failed to others. And to be honest, I never had that problem after following the instructions.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2015 1:28:18 GMT -5
And for the record, I never pre-ordered this version of Dancougar.
But will be tempted if it hits the bargain bin.
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Post by tetsuryu on Jul 5, 2015 1:48:25 GMT -5
None of these pictures seem to be of any real help...
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Post by DUKE 77 on Jul 5, 2015 5:25:48 GMT -5
Guys, I just unboxed my Dancouga! No neck or anything is broken. The Big Moth robot is the main piece and it is hefty. It includes the 3 die cast guns (overseas bonus). I still didn't fully check it out but...first impression: I am kinda of unimpressed ? Bandai's quality levels ruined everything else LOL!
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Post by mecha-mania on Jul 5, 2015 5:34:17 GMT -5
yet to get my hands on the Sentinel one, but I did recalled I struggle quite a fair bit with my SOC one. but then again, it could just be me lol If it is a swappable part, then I guess its the manufacturer's responsibility to make it more durable, its not like a part that is not expected to be meddle much with. But yeah, there are also possibilities that the user applied too much force and broke it. Perhaps its best to monitor the situation a little closer and see if this is just an isolated case. I updated my original post, so you can see the picture. Like I said before no company is perfect, I remember when many people complained about the DX SOC popping elbow. Which prompted Bandai to release a note with instructions to proper handle it. It work to some people while it failed to others. And to be honest, I never had that problem after following the instructions. Agree on the part where no company is perfect, but neither are all equals. Sentinel Dancougar does not come cheap, i dont think its wrong to expect decent workmanship in return. I really hope my piece will turn out well when i receive it, i sincerely do.
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Post by mecha-mania on Jul 5, 2015 5:36:25 GMT -5
Guys, I just unboxed my Dancouga! No neck or anything is broken. The Big Moth robot is the main piece and it is hefty. It includes the 3 die cast guns (overseas bonus). I still didn't fully check it out but...first impression: I am kinda of unimpressed ? Bandai's quality levels ruined everything else LOL! Nice to hear that. Seems that sentinel have some catching up to do haha
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Post by DUKE 77 on Jul 5, 2015 6:51:37 GMT -5
Guys, I just unboxed my Dancouga! No neck or anything is broken. The Big Moth robot is the main piece and it is hefty. It includes the 3 die cast guns (overseas bonus). I still didn't fully check it out but...first impression: I am kinda of unimpressed ? Bandai's quality levels ruined everything else LOL! Nice to hear that. Seems that sentinel have some catching up to do haha And... No translucent cockpits! I dunno why it gives me the feeling of Mad-Toys quality. I am not saying it is bad but... Well $.
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Post by B- on Jul 5, 2015 7:43:56 GMT -5
Guys, I just unboxed my Dancouga! No neck or anything is broken. The Big Moth robot is the main piece and it is hefty. It includes the 3 die cast guns (overseas bonus). I still didn't fully check it out but...first impression: I am kinda of unimpressed ? Bandai's quality levels ruined everything else LOL! Im gonna have to make a sentence to stay under my avatar saying DO NOT COMPARE EVERY ROBOT TO BANDAI.LOL
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Post by B- on Jul 5, 2015 7:46:38 GMT -5
Agree with Baron and Kamenrider that sentinel shouldn't be messing with complex combiner at the moment unless they are absolutely sure on what they are doing and as thing stands, the broken neck incident doesn't really inspire much confidence in us. And I maintain what I mentioned before I don't really mind sentinel sticking to a non-combiner, but highly articulate Dancougar (sort of an over glorified SRC) and retailing it at a lower cost. After all, I like the Sentinel Dancougar's fully combined look, but individual robots sucks, can really do without that. There is nothing complicated with Dancougar. It is one of the simplest combiners ever made. After looking at Sen-Ti-Nel's blog, it looks like the neck will break if the user is not careful with the head when either moving it, or popping it out/in to replace the face. From Sen-Ti-Nel's blog ameblo.jp/sen-ti-nel-info/, see how the neck might break if not inserted properly. CFF BTW when I say complicated combiner I mean any combiner derived of 5 or more parts,each of those parts take on another form so yes it is complex,Any combiner is considered complex fora new company in my opinion.Especially one with 5 parts that each turn into animals AND vehicles BOTH and a robot!!...what combiners are more complicated than that?? ideon maybe?Just curious if Dancougar isnt complex what classic combiner is?? Certainly not Voltes or combattler...Ideon is all that comes to mind where each ship has 2 distinct vehicvles each,so actually Dancougar and Ideon ARE teh most complex classic combiners,maybe you mean simple to transform? I dont think so..I dont own Dancougar but videos show this.
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Post by tetsuryu on Jul 5, 2015 10:24:02 GMT -5
CFF BTW when I say complicated combiner I mean any combiner derived of 5 or more parts,each of those parts take on another form so yes it is complex,Any combiner is considered complex fora new company in my opinion.Especially one with 5 parts that each turn into animals AND vehicles BOTH and a robot!!...what combiners are more complicated than that?? ideon maybe?Just curious if Dancougar isnt complex what classic combiner is?? Certainly not Voltes or combattler...Ideon is all that comes to mind where each ship has 2 distinct vehicvles each,so actually Dancougar and Ideon ARE teh most complex classic combiners,maybe you mean simple to transform? I dont think so..I dont own Dancougar but videos show this. I think he's referring to the fact that in terms of actual combining, Dancougar is simple as hell compared to something like Ideon. Big Moth just stands on top of the vehicle modes of the other two while Eagle Fighter plugs over it's head.
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Post by B- on Jul 5, 2015 10:56:49 GMT -5
CFF BTW when I say complicated combiner I mean any combiner derived of 5 or more parts,each of those parts take on another form so yes it is complex,Any combiner is considered complex fora new company in my opinion.Especially one with 5 parts that each turn into animals AND vehicles BOTH and a robot!!...what combiners are more complicated than that?? ideon maybe?Just curious if Dancougar isnt complex what classic combiner is?? Certainly not Voltes or combattler...Ideon is all that comes to mind where each ship has 2 distinct vehicvles each,so actually Dancougar and Ideon ARE teh most complex classic combiners,maybe you mean simple to transform? I dont think so..I dont own Dancougar but videos show this. I think he's referring to the fact that in terms of actual combining, Dancougar is simple as hell compared to something like Ideon. Big Moth just stands on top of the vehicle modes of the other two while Eagle Fighter plugs over it's head. right but it's not basic Gokin 101 that should be Sentinels meat and potatoes right now and even that they aren't proficient yet. cFF not trying to argue about it so don't take it the wrong way all I'm saying is it's a big undertaking for a company just pioneering into Gokin that's all
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2015 13:49:41 GMT -5
I think he's referring to the fact that in terms of actual combining, Dancougar is simple as hell compared to something like Ideon. Big Moth just stands on top of the vehicle modes of the other two while Eagle Fighter plugs over it's head. right but it's not basic Gokin 101 that should be Sentinels meat and potatoes right now and even that they aren't proficient yet. cFF not trying to argue about it so don't take it the wrong way all I'm saying is it's a big undertaking for a company just pioneering into Gokin that's all Tetsuryu got what I meant. Baron, if you are referring to simple transformation with combination let us look at ET's Big Dai X. These are simple ships that combine into a large robot. Then why in the hell the quality was so messed up that pieces break during transformation? And this is a sample of bad design because even if you follow the not so helpful instructions and are extra careful, the quality is so bad that it breaks. This is the only figure that I have that I have it in robot mode and never dare the fiddle with. Now Daikengo on the other hand, is so good that it is hard to believe that both robots came from the same company. Granted these ET toys are not gokin and are less expensive than this Dancougar, but the logic still applies. And by the way Baron, CM's Corp combiners were not prefect either. For example, their GaoGaiGar was notorious to break quite easily; which prompted them to release version 2.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2015 13:51:14 GMT -5
None of these pictures seem to be of any real help... Look at the tabs on the neck and the hole that it goes to. You can see that if you force those tabs, you can brake them.
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Post by greengetterguy on Jul 5, 2015 14:40:38 GMT -5
they picked the wrong material.... couldnt t hey used POM, nylon, or alloy for that broken piece?
also, i really am concerned and don't like the recent direction of the sculpt SENTINELs heading... tiny head, thin waist, crotch thrusting 90s BS. look it this tiny head on this Dancouga, ReEdit War Machine, their newly announced 12 inch wanna b IRon Man Ultraman suit, Meta Worse Gaiking and on and on.....
it is so exaggerated. it looks like they implanted somebody elses head on some giants body with giant flat feet.....i understand they want the heroic stance and proportion on their figure but they went overboard. and they dont see a problem. also many of these characters is as if they are wearing a helmet...in order to accomadate a near normal sized head, the helmet has to be atleast bigger then the naked head....you dont get that on many of these toys. They look very odd with the pinhead helmet.
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Post by tetsuryu on Jul 5, 2015 23:59:37 GMT -5
they picked the wrong material.... couldnt t hey used POM, nylon, or alloy for that broken piece? also, i really am concerned and don't like the recent direction of the sculpt SENTINELs heading... tiny head, thin waist, crotch thrusting 90s BS. look it this tiny head on this Dancouga, ReEdit War Machine, their newly announced 12 inch wanna b IRon Man Ultraman suit, Meta Worse Gaiking and on and on..... it is so exaggerated. it looks like they implanted somebody elses head on some giants body with giant flat feet.....i understand they want the heroic stance and proportion on their figure but they went overboard. and they dont see a problem. also many of these characters is as if they are wearing a helmet...in order to accomadate a near normal sized head, the helmet has to be atleast bigger then the naked head....you dont get that on many of these toys. They look very odd with the pinhead helmet. I think the answer to all of that is obvious. "Obari".
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Post by DUKE 77 on Jul 6, 2015 3:38:42 GMT -5
So, those 3 diecast guns (the overseas bonus)... In which «bonus term» should they make us happy?
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Post by mecha-mania on Jul 6, 2015 4:15:08 GMT -5
So, those 3 diecast guns (the overseas bonus)... In which «bonus term» should they make us happy? I think so....so is it working? Are you happy?
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