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Post by Kuro Kishi on May 9, 2005 11:11:41 GMT -5
It's been 2 years ago (age 12) since I was introduced to the alertenative universe of BANDAI,Chougoukin. More questions from me. 1)Is the GX-01R Mazinger Z based on the mazinger z found in the second half of mazinger z and great maiznger? I noticed that the face sculpt has a sort of "meaner" look to its eyes and mouth and the head shape is very different. 2) What were the major/minor flaws found on the original GX-02 Great Mazinger and what is the big difference between GX-02 and GX-02R? 3) Are there any flaws on GX-06 Getter Robo?and 04)sO FAR i HAVE 15 GOKINs(kado senshi,SOC,GD SERIES etc.)Is this a good number of gokin toys for a 14 year old?
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Post by Chen on May 9, 2005 11:31:12 GMT -5
Well young'n it's good to ask questions if you don't know the answers. I'll reply as best I can.
1-GX-01R is more designed around the last four/five episodes of Great Mazinger where the design was more realized.
2-There aren't any real flaws to GX-02, GX-02R was just updated to keep up with GX-01R and GX-04. The big differences are: -Chrome thighs which makes him taller by 1mm. -Better neck articulation. -No spring loaded Scranble Dash, but it does come with an extra "closed" Scranble Dash. -Great Booster is in flight and not attack mode. -Swords have painted handles. -Comes with two extra hands, one of them is for GX-01R for "hand shake action".
3-The only real complaint about GX-06 is that people find it hard to connect the Getters at the waist attachment, you just need to make sure the button is pressed and give a hard shove.
4-15 Gokins and your only 14! You had more than me when I was your age. Hell I'm 30 and only have 40+ Gokins.
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Post by ataru on May 9, 2005 12:32:52 GMT -5
Chen, it's not just chrome for the gx-02r's thighs, they were changed to diecast too. Also the gx-01r's face was based on the way Mazinger Z's face looks in the first opening- I remember reading that somewhere, probably the manual. It's easy enough to confirm with video of the opening anyway.
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Post by Kuro Kishi on May 9, 2005 15:08:31 GMT -5
Also GX-05R is basically a repaint of GX-05 Daikumaryu. Didn't GX-05R also fix any flaws(EX:parts falling off and hard to stand Gaiking) that were on the original GX-05? Also what is the paint scheme(basic figures and accessories) based off of?
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Post by jwm on May 9, 2005 16:26:52 GMT -5
ChogoV9: welcome to Robot-Japan. Wow, there's a quick way to strike a few sparks around here: bring up the GX-05R. It's one of those pieces that people either love or hate- there is very little middle ground. As far as I know the only difference is the paint scheme, and it isn't a huge difference at that. The little Gaiking is kind of fussy, and the horns don't fit into the die-cast dragon head very well. Even so, I think this thing rocks. And heaven only knows how Bandai decides on anything. They're kind of like Microsoft- they do the deciding, and we follow along like well led sheep. Oh- and a little advice from years as a toy geek: Always save the boxes no matter how much space they waste. If you get tired of the collection (and you will) pack it up and store it. NEVER SELL IT OFF. You will regret every thing you sell. JWM
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Post by Chen on May 9, 2005 17:17:22 GMT -5
Also GX-05R is basically a repaint of GX-05 Daikumaryu. Didn't GX-05R also fix any flaws(EX:parts falling off and hard to stand Gaiking) that were on the original GX-05? Also what is the paint scheme(basic figures and accessories) based off of? No changes technicaly, just a more "dynamic" paint scheme. I think Banda just thought the blue was a little to light so they darkened it and made the scales lighter for better contrast but that just my opinion, if Ataru can shed more light that would be great. He's become Prowl to my Optimus Prime ;D
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Post by Kuro Kishi on May 9, 2005 17:23:51 GMT -5
Don't worry, I keep them in their boxes when not in use. So far here's my collection and I actually have more than 15 gokins and gokin-like toys:1)DX Senpuujin,2)DX Gouraijin,3)Fuurai Maru set,4)DX Gingaioo,5)GX-03 Combattler V,6)GX-24 Tetsuujin 28-go,7)GX-01R Mazinger Z,8)Kado Senshi Hyaku-Shiki,9)MMM Strike Gundam,10)GT-00 Mazinger Z,11)GT-01 Mazinger Z,11)GT-?? Robocon,12)Souchaku Henshin Kamen Rider G3,13)SD Super Robot Wars Raideen,14)Juugokin Devilman,15)GD-76 Gigan 2005, and 16) Masterpiece Convoy Oh and 17)SIC Kikaider, if that counts ;D. Well that's my collection and a bunch of over 40 other Zords,Gundams,Transformers, and Zoids toys from the US. Well that's my collection(in words). How is that?
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Post by Ben-Ohki on May 9, 2005 21:55:24 GMT -5
Welcome aboard! You'll come to realize that members on Robot-Japan all have different tastes. You collection is respectable in many ways - just remember, you should feel free to put whatever you like in your toy collection as long as you enjoy it!
I have just under 20 gokin type items myself (double that if you count plastic mecha like Ranger toys). Hundreds if you count all the other stuff I've collected over time like Gundam items, various action figures. Bascially I collect whatever I think happens to look cool on a shelf.
Besides, "a good number" is whatever you have room for. ;D
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Post by jwm on May 9, 2005 22:01:39 GMT -5
Besides, "a good number" is whatever you have room for. ;D Since when has running out of space stopped anyone? JWM
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Post by Kuro Kishi on May 10, 2005 20:00:02 GMT -5
Aoshima and Bandai: Don't BANDAI'S SOC Line and Aoshima's Choshingokin lines have different focuses such as gimmicks and/or art?I heard that SOC line is focused more on gimmicks and accessories whereas Choshingokin focuses more on an artsy higher quality toy rather than accessories. Is this true?One more thing,What are the flaws on Choshingokin SG-01 Shin Getter and SG-?? Neo Getter? (A flaw I heard on SG-01 is the Shin Getter's Tomahawk is made of metal,causing the figure to make limited poses with the weapon.)Do you believe their quality and gimmicks are better than ANY SOC? Personally from reviews I read, I believe theyir quality is better,but not in gimmicks.
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Post by Ben-Ohki on May 10, 2005 20:41:31 GMT -5
Aoshima's stuff isn't any near as playable as the Bandai stuff. But I can only speak from their older Choshingokin series.
I have the SG-01 Shin Getter Robo and as bad-ass as he is, I find he's fairly plain vanilla (his "gimmick" is having transparent windows). He's also suprisingly poseable (not sure about the 2004 Shin Getter that recentaly came out tho). SG-03 Mazinkaiser tried to mimic Bandai but including optional firing fists... but ultimately didn't deliver. The fists kinda just dropped when "launched" becauze the springs were so weak. But again, he certainly looks bad-ass.
Both these guys ended up on my top shelf just because they look so damn impressive.
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Post by Kuro Kishi on May 11, 2005 6:12:43 GMT -5
Now I see what you mean by more playable. SOCs have a speical gimmick that I believe no other Aoshimas(or any other modern gokin line) have, interchangable arms. Since the arms of most SOCs are attached by magnet and are all the same size, you can put different arms on different robots for a mix and match. This is practically my most favorite Gokin gimmick because you can see different robots with very different arms(in my opinion I like it better than missiles and launching fists). Also if an SOC does not have launching fists, you can use Mazinger Z's launching elbows with iron cutter,attach them to Tetsujin's arm socket, and fire away. Also since Mazinger Z is almost entirely metal, you can give Tetsujin's arms to him and he'll have much more metal than he usually has.
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Post by Chen on May 11, 2005 11:17:41 GMT -5
I own five Aoshima figures (two Mazinkaiser's, two Shin Getter One's, and one new Getter) and can say that they are actually more posable than most SOC's. But the real design focus is the amount of diecast in them, Aoshima's are almost 100% diecast and are super heavy. So what they make up in diecast they lose in accesories, at the most you might get a firing punch feature and some extra hands but nowhere near the level of "gimmicks" that Bandai puts in it's SOC line.
It seems the one line that is trying to mix SOC and Aoshima's Gokin line is MaxFactory's Gokin line. They have a fair amount of diecast and an insane amount of accesories.
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Post by Kuro Kishi on May 11, 2005 14:29:19 GMT -5
It seems like each gokin line has one focus,making them "impossible" to compare.If you were to choose one Modern Gokin Line which one would it be?Why?
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Post by Chen on May 11, 2005 15:32:14 GMT -5
If I had to pick just one line to collect it would be easy, Soul of Chogokin all the way. It has all the classics I love and I just prefer Bandai's design them. But the other two lines are good too, they just don't have enough figures yet to compete and probably never will.
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Post by Kuro Kishi on May 11, 2005 15:51:28 GMT -5
I'd probably go with SOC too. It seems that SOC has more variety than Choshingokin and MAX gokin,because these robot designs are based more on modern,"tougher" looking robots rather than classic,"silly" looking robots. Plus BANDAI also attempted to make SOC versions of Evangelion bots and they seemed to have done them very well(from reviews I've read). This addition(Evangelion) adds more variety to the SOC line.Who knows, you never know what BANDAI is going to pump out next(They might surprise us with Maiznkaiser and maybe Shin Getter, possibly(but doughtfully Gaogaigar,too).Plus they come out with like 3-6 SOCs a year.
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Post by Kuro Kishi on May 11, 2005 16:36:31 GMT -5
Plus I also like SOC boxes more than any other Gokin boxes because they show the toy with a dark,blending background,put in special effects for the toy, and is very glossy,rather than plain looking.
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Post by Chen on May 11, 2005 19:11:19 GMT -5
Chen, it's not just chrome for the gx-02r's thighs, they were changed to diecast too. Also the gx-01r's face was based on the way Mazinger Z's face looks in the first opening- I remember reading that somewhere, probably the manual. It's easy enough to confirm with video of the opening anyway. I meant the whole package of GX-01R is based on the later half of the Series (episode 71 actually and last few eps of Great Mazinger) where Maz get's the new Jet Pilder and upgraded Jet Scrander. As for the face design, it could be of the opening but honestly you really can't get a clear look at his face.
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Post by Kuro Kishi on May 11, 2005 19:24:16 GMT -5
Well,Chen, some images depict Mazinger Z with the GX-01 head,some with the GX-01R head.Well,since many people don't like the GX-01R's, I personally like it, because it gives Mazinger Z a "meaner,grumpier " look,rather than a "normal look".Plus this design was no mistake. This head was actually seen in the prototype model figure in a few old Hobby Magazines(recent old).However many sources say that this face is based on the Mazinger Z found in Great Mazinger.(And in some episodes as well.)
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Post by Kuro Kishi on May 11, 2005 19:45:13 GMT -5
Chen, what about SOC versions of early sentai robos?My possible prediction is Battle Fever,Daidenjin,Sunvulcan,etc.But in my view it will be 50/50 BANDAI will be making these.What do you think?
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