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Post by xiombarg on Jan 18, 2008 0:35:46 GMT -5
How can Baikanfu be more playable when all you can do with it is pose it and open it? Ideon has more accessories and has multiple modes. I can see how Baikanfu could be much more playable than Ideon for a couple of reasons. With a little bit of imagination it's four characters in one set. The interaction of each figure would make for a more dynamic "narrative", whereas in contrast to this with Ideon, it wouldn't make much sense to have a half built Ideon interacting with one of the uncombined ships as an independent "character". But with Rom, Baikanfu and company they can act independently or half combined or whatever etc. And last, as others have mentioned, it's easier to play with a character that holds itself together well instead of falling over or losing its pose while "flying" throught the air. Ideon is fine and all, but honestly I have no doubt in my mind that I would prefer Baikanfu over Ideon if I was a kid, which is probably why I prefer him now.
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Post by megatroptimus on Jan 18, 2008 11:14:30 GMT -5
If you're playing with Ideon, it means you holding it in your hands. Then why would it fall over? Doesn't make any sense. Baikanfu is more "sturdy" because it doesn't do anything. When I pose Ideon on the shelf, he stays put. It's not like all SOC figures released to date can have extreme poses anyway.
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Post by xiombarg on Jan 18, 2008 12:39:41 GMT -5
If you're playing with Ideon, it means you holding it in your hands. Then why would it fall over? Doesn't make any sense. Baikanfu is more "sturdy" because it doesn't do anything. When I pose Ideon on the shelf, he stays put. It's not like all SOC figures released to date can have extreme poses anyway. As long as you're holding him still and upright while playing, then yes, he will basically hold his pose. Avoid horizontal action. Baikanfu doesn't do anything? Hmm. If doing something means transforming in the classic henkei sense, then yes, he doesn't transform. But having three figures that fit into each other to become one kick butt robot that poses better than probably any SOC to date and looks killer, well, most people here would say this is something. I'm not trying to convince you to like him though, and Ideon is a great figure also, but when comparing the two and which one is your preference, it just depends what you like. But saying that Baikanfu doesn't do anything, or that he sucks, I don't think anyone is going to agree with you.
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Post by megatroptimus on Jan 18, 2008 13:08:01 GMT -5
Not saying he sucks; I want one. Just saying that for me, it's playability (as in "possibilities") is pretty limited. "Looking killer" isn't a feature to me.
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Post by mazingagoo on Jan 18, 2008 13:21:14 GMT -5
wow, it all really comes down to if it looks killer behind the glass display.
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Post by mpchi on Jan 18, 2008 14:17:14 GMT -5
If you're playing with Ideon, it means you holding it in your hands. Then why would it fall over? Doesn't make any sense. Baikanfu is more "sturdy" because it doesn't do anything. When I pose Ideon on the shelf, he stays put. It's not like all SOC figures released to date can have extreme poses anyway. Playing can also mean posing and fiddling a figure on a desk, changing poses or accessories every few minutes and sometimes, even do a photo shoot with it while doing it. Makes total sense to me to want a figure to be stable and sturdy. And based on your argument, maybe Godmarz won't do so well either since its just 6 robots that only combines, no alt modes, limited accessories, and ultimately...doesn't do anything. LOL ;D An interesting point you have.
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Post by megatroptimus on Jan 18, 2008 15:02:29 GMT -5
The Godmarz robots do transform : an arm, a leg, a torso. The ones for Baikanfu do nothing. Zero. Nada. Rien. You just insert them in the next bigger figure, that's it.
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Post by mazingagoo on Jan 18, 2008 15:37:08 GMT -5
megatroptimus, you are very wrong. Just because Baikanfu does not transform, it does not mean it does nothing. Duh, I forgot, yeah. It if don't transform...and perfectly, then it sucks
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Post by mpchi on Jan 18, 2008 15:50:11 GMT -5
The Godmarz robots do transform : an arm, a leg, a torso. The ones for Baikanfu do nothing. Zero. Nada. Rien. You just insert them in the next bigger figure, that's it. Haha. If thats the case, Baikanfu and all the robots transforms too. They transforms into the torso filling of each other LOL. Man..! This thread really starts to crack me up... ;D
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Post by megatroptimus on Jan 18, 2008 16:06:58 GMT -5
Insertion is not transformation. "Combined" or not, all Baikanfu components look exactly the same.
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Post by megatroptimus on Jan 18, 2008 16:24:30 GMT -5
megatroptimus, you are very wrong. Just because Baikanfu does not transform, it does not mean it does nothing. Duh, I forgot, yeah. It if don't transform...and perfectly, then it sucks Didn't say it sucks, read better. Baikanfu does what it's supposed to do perfectly. Reideen doesn't. That's different. I will eventually buy Baikanfu despite its limited playability (to my standards - I will always prefer figures that transform), which I consider similar to Grendizer, another figure I like and that doesn't transform.
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Post by mpchi on Jan 18, 2008 16:46:32 GMT -5
Baikanfu does what it's supposed to do perfectly. Good point. But thought you said it doesn't do anything... so it does a perfect job of doing nothing. Haha. Fun stuff. ;D Though I think I have enough laughs for the day. Good posts.
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Post by mazingagoo on Jan 18, 2008 16:50:59 GMT -5
megatroptimus, you are very wrong. Just because Baikanfu does not transform, it does not mean it does nothing. Duh, I forgot, yeah. It if don't transform...and perfectly, then it sucks Didn't say it sucks, read better. Baikanfu does what it's supposed to do perfectly. Reideen doesn't. That's different. who mentioned Raideen? If Baikanfu "suffered" from part-swaping, would it do less than nothing?
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Post by megatroptimus on Jan 18, 2008 16:53:37 GMT -5
Though I think I have enough laughs for the day. Good posts. I could well laugh at your love for robots with inferior engineering that don't do much, but I won't. Sarcasm isn't going to get you anywhere.
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Post by megatroptimus on Jan 18, 2008 16:54:42 GMT -5
If Baikanfu "suffered" from part-swaping, would it do less than nothing? Probably. What it needs to achieve is already simple enough, if it couldn't at the price point it's selling for, it would be quite pathetic. (Is it me or it sounds a like Transformers snob fighting against two SOC snobs?
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Post by mazingagoo on Jan 18, 2008 17:22:41 GMT -5
If Baikanfu "suffered" from part-swaping, would it do less than nothing? Probably. What it needs to achieve is already simple enough, if it couldn't at the price point it's selling for, it would be quite pathetic. (Is it me or it sounds a like Transformers snob fighting against two SOC snobs? hehe ;D
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Post by wilson on Jan 19, 2008 22:48:35 GMT -5
for ppl that does not have Baikanfu yet. amazon is selling Gx 39 for $179 and if you apply for a amazon credit card you will also get $30 off. $179-$30= $149 thats the best deal I have seen besides pre ordering for statustoys. shipping is like $10 for 3 to 5 day.
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Post by mazingagoo on Jan 19, 2008 23:35:22 GMT -5
nice, I cancelled with statuetoys and purchased somewhere else. Paid about the same as you did.
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Post by megatroptimus on Jan 20, 2008 1:22:11 GMT -5
Where exactly? I wanna buy that figure even if it SUCKS. Kidding. I don't need another credit card, so where did you get yours mazingagoo?
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Post by REX-203 on Jan 20, 2008 5:00:24 GMT -5
Best part is... it doesn't suck!!! ;D Hehehe. Man $149 is a real bargain! Highly recommended, especially for that price.
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