HLPRO Metaltech Series (Grendizer, Giru Giru, etc)

[Buster_One]

Good Balanced Review.  

I like the joint articulation especially the ab joint.

Your light source is good it's just figure colors are really bland and dull to begin with. 

I like how the razor blades easily falls off.  
 
Will there be a revised version?

[Gettershadow]

yeah its good.. One of the moderators is going to post some photos saying that what Hlpro said isn't true about what Dynamic Planning said bbut don't worry guys.. the horn goes forward according to Dynamic but either is acceptable.. HLpro has photos to prove either

some guys walk around with permanent Pocket Protectors in place.. a sign of Aspergers. ha and guys who work for other companies.

[chogokinabdul]

gettershadow thanks for the first and great review for the long waited GIN GIN ! man don't get me wrong but I do think they missed the anime accuracy with gin gin head !! it is GIN GIN but it is not the best looking Gin Gin ! I mean it is the only Gin Gin in Toy Form but the head leaves room for improvement!! and the horn in the middle of his head should be backwards man ! take a look at all those shots from the episode!

















all of those images which are from various shots clearly show that the horn in the middle of Gin Gin head should be curved backwards ! I know that 70 anime have lots of mistakes all the time due to their tight budget and deadlines but these shots shown above are more than 80 percent of gin gin time on screen (in Robot Mode) as a matter of fact I have counted only 3 shots where that horn is curved forward!!

now when HLpro promotes that they are after the classic look then I expect paying more attention to those details!! because this is what anime accuracy all about, depending on how the character looked on screen most of the time not all the time! and when hlpro says that they have refers to official dynamic drawings as the base to their design that is not totally true! because as shown below in the official model sheet of GIN GIN that was used as a reference for animators back then when Grendizer was in production you can see clearly the middle horn curving backwards and the eyes should be bigger!



now don't get me wrong ! I am still going to buy it ! I have every release of HL-Pro because they are Grendizer franchise ! I am never 100% satisfied with their products because of those little details that makes lots of difference for a Fan / Collector ! I like their work but I am always hoping that they would pay more attention to their projects!!

maybe when I get it I should sculpt my version of Gin Gin head!!

[Gettershadow]

see told ya.. HLPro said they got the photos from Dynamic Planning. The ones you are showing are from the show.. Dynamic did not draw those,, Toei did..
ok I see, well we don't know what photos they were looking at from Dynamic... Im sure they will get back to me,, now adjust that pocket protector ! ha ha

[greengetterguy]

Overall, looks like an awesome figure.
HLPro can def include "manga head" or "Toei head" on manga colored version Gin Gin then.
On retrospect, maybe HLPro shoulda made the middle horn on a ball joint so we can position it ourselves....Just a constructive observation.

BUT GS, I, along with other bros here really thankful and commend HLPro for bringing baddies to the market and I hope they continue to fill that serious need. Please do relay that message to HLPro for me.

[TheMazingerZ]

Well, seems like the proof is in the pudding... the horn should be pointing to the back of the head. I wonder if it will be possible to twist that horn around. I doubt it will, so the only other option is to cut it off and attach it back in the position it should be. Maybe I can cast the head and do that on the replica instead...


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[greengetterguy]

I can't wait for the advance in affordable 3-D printing...that way we can any bots mod to our heart's desire.

[Gettershadow]

before you do anything drastic like cut that horn off.. let HLpro have a chance to state its case in the direction of the horn. They told me that it wasn't really important bc it was pictured both ways depending on the drawing and who drew it. and that the figure looked better with it forward... and that it matched the helmet on the pilot.. the pilot even has the same short shirtsleeves.. on the pilot it goes forward

from all we know. HLpro KNOWS Go Nagai.. maybe we can ask him which way it goes.. I bet he will say "who cares?" haha

[Buster_One]

I will get this even though the center horn look like ice cream cone facing wrong way.

I always need villains in my collection.

[Gettershadow]

where is my damn pocket protector??

[chogokinabdul]

yup ... should be backwards ! but overall I am very happy that we are getting the badies from grendizer they are unique looking and the designs were great ! I am actually dreaming of the next ufo monster they might do ! maybe zera zera or Hubi Hubi !! that would be awsome!!

and againg I have to thank you Gettershadow for taking the time and effort to make this video !! yesterday I was all over youtube for such a review!!

as for the horn !! I think we should assign The mazingers or actarus to make us the head and we pay for it if enough people here wants it!! it is better than cutting it or twisting it !! we will have then two versions (HL pro VER. and anime Robot japan execlusive ver.)

[Gettershadow]

ok that makes more sense.. the figure is f**king fantastic. The movement is very fluid and surprisingly expressive for the type of articulation it has.. the articulation is "stealth" but its more effective than it looks.. it was very cleaver how they did it.. youll see when you get it, I just wish the saw blades weren't so touchy and the wrists on the grasping hands had a tad more movement in them.. the fists are fine though.

[chogokinabdul]

by the way ! the dynamic planing is actualy the name of go nagai studio and even though toei did the production but the designs back then were supported or approved by dynamic planing
Go nagai will never remember which way he created that horn facing to!! he created hundreds of charecters starting from early 70 and he is still working !! so really the proof is GIN GIN which we loved and watched as kids !! not what was on a sheet of paper in an old folder some where at Dynamic!!

it is the show that hooked us with GIN GIN and Captain Gormen who don't have that horn in his helmet!

[Gettershadow]

HLpro knows about this conversation and is quite amused.. from there point of view, position of the horn is optional but supposed to be forward.

I don't think they expected this, they are pretty irritated about it.. It wouldn't surprise me if later on, a "bonus head" came out... but don't hold me to that.. just my thinking.

They assure you that its "authentic" either way.. and they liked it going forward (the way they say it was intended)

[Gettershadow]

Oct 9, 2013 18:22:25 GMT -5 chogokinabdul said:

by the way ! the dynamic planing is actualy the name of go nagai studio and even though toei did the production but the designs back then were supported or approved by dynamic planing
Go nagai will never remember which way he created that horn facing to!! he created hundreds of charecters starting from early 70 and he is still working !! so really the proof is GIN GIN which we loved and watched as kids !! not what was on a sheet of paper in an old folder some where at Dynamic!!

it is the show that hooked us with GIN GIN and Captain Gormen who don't have that horn in his helmet!

OK its a "blade" but its like a horn! Damn otaku.. ha

[Gettershadow]

here is my review of the supposedly "backwards horn" Edition of Gin Gin in case you guys missed it back there inside all that nerd-squabble...

The WORLD PREMIER of the totally authentic and acceptable forward horn Gin Gin (the way it was intended).. thank you ladies and gentlemen

[darksenshi]

Im personally not feeling this Gin Gin. The design just doesnt sit right with me. I guess I'll just keep the one I have and hopefully one day Bandai will produce their own version of Gin Gin.

[chogokinabdul]

man that would be awsome if they later included an anime accurate head ! then we collectors don't have to fix anything ! then this conversation will lead to something good!
the point is we watched the anime and we loved it .. so the anime what counts at the end of the day ! not what some company intended to do almost 38 years later!!

but kudos for HL pro for bringing this nice figure and please keep them comming ! we want more and that horn thing is not a deal breaker by all means

[Gettershadow]

look, if it means that much to you guys, that head and horns are so soft, that you probably COULD just stick a hard wire up through the bottom of the head and it would hold that horn in any position you would want from the INSIDE. its almost like that "Gumby" material..

all the "picky" stuff aside, its a REAL GOOD figure.. I was surprised how much range of motion he has..

WAIT A MIN, WAIT A MINUITE .. you can just PUSH that horn back!.. I think with heat and cold water it would stay.. its pretty flexible.. I don't think its gonna be a problem for you guys want it to go back..

[TheMazingerZ]

Anime is what counts in my book. I could really care less about what anything said regarding these Super Robots. It is what I saw on TV that counts.

Back to the head/horn issue, I can cast the head fairly easily, but painting it is a different story. My eyes are not the same they used to be, and I can barely focus on anything closer than a foot away from me. This makes it almost impossible for me to do a decent job with tiny details, like the eyes and other small features on the head.

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