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Post by Gettershadow on Nov 19, 2013 9:04:11 GMT -5
did you get it yet? if you did what do you think?
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Post by Gettershadow on Nov 19, 2013 11:15:35 GMT -5
Just in case any of you guys have never watched it.. here is "Gattiger" the pilot UFO Grendizer episode.
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Post by TheMazingerZ on Nov 19, 2013 13:35:13 GMT -5
Cool! Thanks for the video. But I'm glad they decided on going with Grendizer instead.  }D |
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Post by Gettershadow on Nov 19, 2013 13:45:21 GMT -5
yeah .. most of the elements we know from Grendizer are there but ... not quite. Its like a parallel universe Grendizer. I think the Final version of Grendizer looked a lot cooler than Gattiger but Im looking forward to having a figure of him.
Hey TMZ, I got the female side of the Harken cleared of the old pin.. what about the male side? Is that something that can be cleared also or will I have to drill it out with something?
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Post by B- on Nov 19, 2013 15:51:59 GMT -5
did you get it yet? if you did what do you think? No just got shipping notice today,Im sure its cool! But let ya know what I think 4sure! |
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Post by TheMazingerZ on Nov 19, 2013 19:00:57 GMT -5
Hey TMZ, I got the female side of the Harken cleared of the old pin.. what about the male side? Is that something that can be cleared also or will I have to drill it out with something? You're gonna have to drill. After you drill the hole, I recommend using a small finishing nail or thumbtack as the metal pin instead of just a needle... unless it is a large needle!  }D |
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Post by Gettershadow on Nov 19, 2013 19:42:49 GMT -5
yeah a needle was too small once I had the hole clear.. finishing nail.. Ill go with that.
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Post by Chen on Nov 19, 2013 20:29:30 GMT -5
Try and find the Grendizer/Gattaiger manga crossover. In it Gattaiger is from a alternate universe and is actually quite a bit bigger then Grendizer. I'm looking forward to this release. If it comes out half as nice as that custom Gattaiger from zonehobbys it should be good.
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Post by droutmaster on Nov 20, 2013 1:10:20 GMT -5
Try and find the Grendizer/Gattaiger manga crossover. In it Gattaiger is from a alternate universe and is actually quite a bit bigger then Grendizer. I'm looking forward to this release. If it comes out half as nice as that custom Gattaiger from zonehobbys it should be good. ah yea, i had a translated scan of it, was pretty cool. someone made a video of it in YT |
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Post by Gettershadow on Nov 20, 2013 10:57:41 GMT -5
that's great.. it means that you can display a Gattiger along side a Manga MT01 Grendizer and it would be "correct".. I didn't know that.
we will be able to do this ,,
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Post by Gettershadow on Nov 23, 2013 9:51:08 GMT -5
Ok guys, I had a nice conversation with the guys at HLPRO last night and I was told some things that were said to me in a way that I think were intended for you guys to hear. So, Im going to go head and "leak" a few things to you.
The Gattiger prototype is finished and they are testing it now. There are just a few minor bugs that need to be worked out but even at this stage the figure is said to be on a few orders of magnitude greater than Gin Gin. They said "Its a big step upwards from that and he looks and feels fantastic". they went on to say "Sorry about the Gin Gin saw blades, it was a minor oversight and it wont happen again."... they went on to say that sales on Gin Gin far exceeded expectations and because of that "be sure that more enemy robots will be coming"
Hlpro has its hands full right now, they are working on several Metaltechs at once and a bunch of other stuff from their vinyl lines.. they are increasing design quality on the Metaltechs and are doing what they can to increase choice of character as quickly as wisdom allows but I say again, they were very VERY pleased with the market response to Gin Gin...
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Post by TheMazingerZ on Nov 23, 2013 11:46:24 GMT -5
We told them right here, many years ago, that enemy robots was the way to go. Unfortunately, at the time, they took it as negstive criticism instead of constructive advise, and even closed their Robot-Japan account over that. Glad to hear that actual number$ have opened their eyes, and now they can see that we knew what we were talking about back then. }D |
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Post by Gettershadow on Nov 23, 2013 12:15:24 GMT -5
Well, what they want is to have a "Full line" of Super Robots of their own, with its own "Character" apart from the other companies. They want the Heroes and the Villains... the Heroes give you the foundation you need to have in order to do the villains. So, some Hero items had to come first. Now they are expanding out of purely Grendizer and into other Heroes that will unlock other enemy options. Good thing about HLpro is that it is a privately owned company and it has a lot of freedom to do characters that the other companies may not have sometimes due to a lot of people being involved with the decision making. A company like HLpro is well served by doing risky characters sometimes, guys like Gin Gin, Zmazinger and Gattiger are characters that other companies probably would not risk getting involved with but the more I think about it the more I agree with the choice of these characters and the timing of them. Now another thing happened behind the scenes for HLpro that I think will add to the attractiveness of these characters but Im not sure I am allowed to talk about it but I think I can say that it involves more "collector attractive" packaging and a wider Global reach.
Now they know that obscure and cool characters are not enough.. they also know that classic characters are going to be very important too but timing of the releases are paramount. You don't want to release a character that someone else is doing at that time and step on another company's toes.. or someone puts out something and the fans had a mixed reaction to it so later on you can come up with your own response with that character and see how it goes. So, for now we have Gattiger Zmazinger, V2 is being talked about and there is another one being done in secret that is a powerhouse character.. its all good stuff.
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Post by TheMazingerZ on Nov 23, 2013 12:36:43 GMT -5
They always said that they did what they wanted, when they wanted. As far as having their own character, Grendizer has been a Bandai character forever and a millenia, so if they think Grendizer is their own, then they need to lay off the drugs and alcohol!  But seriously, I hope that every character they make sells extremely well, and that they consider sticking to enemy figures... at least the more memorable ones. After all, once again it has been proven that, like we told them years ago, they sell incredibly well. }D |
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Post by Chen on Nov 23, 2013 12:55:03 GMT -5
Well when I meant design wise I meant the joint system, ratchet joints etc. But you are correct the more products we have on the market the better it is for fans. Plus I have a feeling Bandai will completely overhaul their SOC Grendizer. But since you have such a good start in this line you need to continue it with REGULAR releases' and find a way to ignore that 800lb gorilla of the hobby by finding a distinct voice in a already crowded market, perhaps enemy mech, bases etc. Personally I prefer GX-04S but I do like this figure too my only problem if I collected this line would be the size, if it were a tad larger it would "look" better with the SOC line and thus have another added incentive for collectors. You either have to complement the SOC line (Aoshima, Maxfactory) or go a completely different route (Fewture) they took or have regular releases that will quickly build up the line IMHO. But like I said it's a very good first effort. This is what I said back in 2009, got blasted by it from HLPRO. I was wrong about a new GX-04 and I believe the SRC line was just announced so I was comparing the Metaltech line to the SOC one. |
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Post by Gettershadow on Nov 23, 2013 13:10:41 GMT -5
They always said that they did what they wanted, when they wanted. As far as having their own character, Grendizer has been a Bandai character forever and a millenia, so if they think Grendizer is their own, then they need to lay off the drugs and alcohol! But seriously, I hope that every character they make sells extremely well, and that they consider sticking to enemy figures... at least the more memorable ones. After all, once again it has been proven that, like we told them years ago, they sell incredibly well. }D when I said "character" I ment " their own personality" and hlpro does have its own persionality... |
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Post by TheMazingerZ on Nov 23, 2013 13:24:31 GMT -5
Oops! Sorry. I got confused when you mentioned that they were expanding out of purely Grendizer. }D |
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Post by Gettershadow on Nov 23, 2013 13:28:08 GMT -5
Well when I meant design wise I meant the joint system, ratchet joints etc. But you are correct the more products we have on the market the better it is for fans. Plus I have a feeling Bandai will completely overhaul their SOC Grendizer. But since you have such a good start in this line you need to continue it with REGULAR releases' and find a way to ignore that 800lb gorilla of the hobby by finding a distinct voice in a already crowded market, perhaps enemy mech, bases etc. Personally I prefer GX-04S but I do like this figure too my only problem if I collected this line would be the size, if it were a tad larger it would "look" better with the SOC line and thus have another added incentive for collectors. You either have to complement the SOC line (Aoshima, Maxfactory) or go a completely different route (Fewture) they took or have regular releases that will quickly build up the line IMHO. But like I said it's a very good first effort. This is what I said back in 2009, got blasted by it from HLPRO. I was wrong about a new GX-04 and I believe the SRC line was just announced so I was comparing the Metaltech line to the SOC one. well I don't know why you got "blasted" for that.. I really wasn't even on RJ at that time, .. 2009 was a long time ago in the business world. Could have just been said "in the heat of the moment". I did look back into that conversation a few years ago and I recall HLpro being rapidly bombarded with very difficult questions to answer in public for a lot of different reasons. But I can attest to his character, he is a really awesome guy when you get to know him. He really is "one of us" and not some empty suit, corporate guy. He is very "firebrand" and "maverick" and those are good qualities to have in business.. they give you the fortitude and willpower to continue in the face of adversity. But that is all "water under the bridge".. please guys, lets let "bye gones be bye gones" .. that all happened in another era. |
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Post by Gettershadow on Nov 23, 2013 13:31:31 GMT -5
Oops! Sorry. I got confused when you mentioned that they were expanding out of purely Grendizer. }D well it just kinda happened that the first few Metaltechs released were Grendizer items.. the MT line was never intended to be "purely Grendizer", he just had a lot of Grendizer stuff that he was itching to get out of his system.. BUT more Grendizer is coming, don't worry! Grendizer is HLpro's favorite series.. But yeah HLPro is heavy HEAVY into Grendizer.. that's cool!! |
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Post by Chen on Nov 23, 2013 13:37:06 GMT -5
I have no hard feelings toward HLPRO at all but what I believe back then still stands today. They did end up releasing enemy mech, showed of some kind of display base, and are creating "oddball" characters that can compliment various lines so it ended up working for both parties.
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