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Post by Gettershadow on Jun 17, 2014 0:50:28 GMT -5
I didn't ask if the Tiger was going to be metallic, probably so...
as for the release, they gave that to me to post so I assure you this silver version is going to be released along side the "white" one
also, the artist who did the colors for this told me that it wasn't "white" .. its actually a blue color that looks white at first glance. He said it was to match the color of the anime cells.. it was not really "white" in the anime, it was a very light blue.
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Post by Gettershadow on Jun 17, 2014 9:51:38 GMT -5
ill wait for entertainment earth,PBM dropped the ball with Gin Gin,and besides hes rude.Im sure EE will carry it,they carry all teh other HLPro stuff,I dont see PBM having Gattaiger yet for preorder anyhow I just checked. Just because PBM hasn't updated the site doesn't mean he wont pre-sell it to you... just shoot an email and he will bill you and send it out when its here. But really, I wouldn't worry about it.. the US is getting 300 units and that is about all the US market can absorb, if they sell out quickly HL will send more.. the US is a TINY market from their point of view. For expamle, when I got that Duke Fleed trike I mentioned how good it looked and I was told (if memory serves) that I had 1 of about 50 that were sent to the US.... and I don't think those 50 have sold out yet so I may be 1 of say 30 guys in the US that have it.
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Post by TheMazingerZ on Jun 17, 2014 11:03:53 GMT -5
Well, it is a pretty obscure character. Just like Duke Fleed's bike, not many folks will be willing to pay a lot for it because it is practically unknown to them. I guess we will keep on waiting for a pre-order to pop up somewhere then. }D
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Post by B- on Jun 17, 2014 16:09:25 GMT -5
Ill wait for Entertainment earth,and hopefully just like last time with Gin Gin,Ill have it 2 months before PBM has it/ships it..Id advise others to do the same.PBM didnt even care to ship them when he got them in,he had more important non things to do.
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Post by Gettershadow on Jun 17, 2014 17:54:31 GMT -5
Ill wait for Entertainment earth,and hopefully just like last time with Gin Gin,Ill have it 2 months before PBM has it/ships it..Id advise others to do the same.PBM didnt even care to ship them when he got them in,he had more important non things to do. Hate to break it to you man but EE is also one of Paul's stores... they all are him. Paul is a Global powerhouse .. collectables of all kinds, superhero and star wars statues.. all the big online stores.. that's Paul. I would say most of your collection that you have went through Pauls hands at one time or another.. Paul is also Big Bad Toy Store and a bunch of others.. and he is a super laid-back guy, I think you just caught him at a bad time. Hes real friendly.. hes known in the industry for being a "teddy bear". A real softie. He is not a Super Robot guy at all though, he doesn't even know the characters, Paul is more on the level of an "Art Dealer" when you deal with him on a personal level.
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Post by B- on Jun 17, 2014 19:16:32 GMT -5
He may deal to them but they are not HIS stores LOL thats silly,Paul does not own BBTS and EE.He MAY deal to them,but i also doubt that why would they need Paul to get their stock they are a huge stores And even if he did deal with them it makes no sense when they have HLPRo stuff in stock before he does AND STILL have stuff in stock that he doesnt.
BTW dont insult my collection,MOST of my collection comes straight from Japan I SUPER RARELY shop with US dealers so I highly doubt any of my collection went through his hands.Furthermore even if Paul had anything to do with EE,they actually ship teh orders next day,UNLIKE paul whom ive bought 2 things from now,both took a week to ship out.
And if they were Paul then why did they have Gin Gin in stock months before Paul did? Did he get them and then send them to EE before shipping ours?Thats crazy.EE must order straight through to HLPro,OR Paul places their orders.Id MUCH rather deal with a large store than PBM that sells very few products.
Last time you said he deals with EVERYTHING If I remember correctly you posted a link which had VERY very little on it other than a couple marvel statues ,so he may deal with some stuff but certainly not even close to what BBTS deals with.He answers his phone from his own house please,hes a little guy thats it.I dont care anyway the guy TO ME SUCKS,and Im not gonna argue that,even if he owns my whole collection some how I dont care he screwed up a ton of peoples orders here by making them WAIT because he didnt think it was that important?are you kidding me??? this guy is a loser..anyone who doesnt care about his customers is a loser.
I can get the toys faster from someone else ENTERTAINMENT EARTH they already proved that,if that is Pauls other name great,which I think you mean he deals with them I hope you dont think he owns them.....but Ill place the order there,not PBM..Im a serious collector,I have no personal relations with sellers,I dont care,as long as they get it out fast. I dont care what or how much he deals,he was quick with me once,and wouldnt come to his landline LOL the other time his wife said he was busy.Well dont run this supposed huge Toy mogul named Paul who you say owns all these big stores from a landline at his home,maybe he lied to you.Business is business,i want my stuff fast,Ive paid probably more in EMS shipping than the toys in my collection.
NOTHING against you Tom so please dont get all upset,Im just telling MY experiences and how I do things,I can only advise people do what they want,if you want to order from a guy who doesnt think getting out orders is priority go ahead.
Im a super nice guy,but cross me or annoy me and Ill say how I feel,just me.
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Post by Gettershadow on Jun 17, 2014 19:55:21 GMT -5
ok Mr J had to correct me .... Paul doesn't "own" all the stores but he supplies most all of them with pretty much everything... that's just how it is. Once Paul gets them they are immediately available to all the stores... "in stock" or "out of stock" isn't always accurate, sometimes the stores just haven't updated the status.. what matters is if Paul has it in his warehouses or not. EE and BBTS get everything from Pual...that's just how it is.
and Paul isn't just Hlpro stuff. hlpro is a small line for him.. he is supplying almost everything and tons outside of super robots. But as far as HLpro stuff goes, Paul supplies all merchants with that line.. Gin Gin may have been up on EE or BBTS website first but that doesn't matter, Paul had it first and stent them what they wanted... as for Pauls online store, his secretary may only check it every few days or so to see if it had any orders and do the paperwork all at once.. its not like its a 24-7 call center for Geico or anything.. its actually kind of slow and its a small operation for him. He isn't making much just selling single units, his money is coming from selling large batches.. They are not super robot collectors, they are dealers.. they don't see this business the same way. But as far as Paul goes, Im not sure everything you see on the PBM sites is all he is involved with.. seems to be a lot more that just that.
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Post by B- on Jun 17, 2014 21:02:32 GMT -5
Tom Paul does not supply BBTS or EE with most of everything,ok first off His secretary is his wife,its his home number.Weird that a "Global Powerhouse" has his wife answering calls about buying ONE Grendizer.My experience,....just seems weird to me,that the same person who is an international mover and shaker to all the BIGGEST online US toy stores and beyond,has his wife answer his only known telephone number and takes your credit card for an item under 50$.But maybe that is par for the course with rich online dealers.
And someone with all this money,who supplies all this stuff cant even afford someone to make him a decent website?it looks like a kid made it,and its so lackluster bare bones.
If he had all this stuff to sell why not sell more of it on the site he represents?WHy on earth if he is anything close to what you say he is would he personally take small orders at his home address for retail customers,it does not make sense.
I think he is just a little guy who happens to be HLPros contact or rep here in the US.And YES EE had Gin Gin IN STOCK and shipping much before Paul claimed to have them,which must mean they get theirs shipped DIRECT from HLPro not from some rinky dink home salesman.It just doesnt wash Tom.And if he did have them why would he send them to retail stores before filling his own customers orders? Either way he looks bad,because if he did have them before EE it would be even an extra month or more before he shipped to members here,cuz I had mine in hand from EE way before Paul even admitted to having them!!
Ok enough about Paul.Please if anyone sees this presale from anyone but PBM please post thanks!
thanks Tom for all teh updates and photos you rock!
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Post by Gettershadow on Jun 17, 2014 21:20:25 GMT -5
hahah.. youre reading too much into what Im saying Baron, but its understandable.. you have to understand the position Im in. Im a guy with a pretty intense background in direct sales and marketing and American salesman use their own slang terms to describe business and these guys are also salesmen that are not native English speakers using their own sales jargon translated into English. If I were to go "full on" salesman, even YOU would be confused as to what I was really talking about. So, sometimes I hear what they are saying but I am not absolutely sure if they are speaking literally or figuratively or if its business slang. One day I will make a badass video with some funny behind the scenes stories about these guys but I would never do that without permission. So, you have to cut me some slack and try not to jump to conclusions over what I said bc, sometimes even I have a hard time understanding exactly what they mean when they say something.
This is going to get back to what I have been saying for a long time... the system of supply is showing its age. If I were sitting right in front of you with paper and pencil I think I am at the point where I could draw out a flow-chart of how the product is actually conceived, designed, manufactured then distributed and you would see that from a modern perspective, that flow-chart would look like a nightmare.. ha ha
what a distributor does would also make sense when you saw one in action but if you were to put it to words or put it on a flow-chart it would be an even bigger tangle of bullsh*t. They buy large quantities of stuff and sell it out to other guys that may even break it down further. Stuff the distributor cannot sell in large numbers he may have to sell of on his own on the side.. its a huge tangle of things coming in and things going out the door in 20 different directions. a lot of it is done on the phone a lot of it is not visible on the web.. dude its a nightmare..
This is why we are all predicting that companies will convert over to a more streamlined factory direct sales mode and the "distributors" will probably convert over into being some kind of "drop ship" warehouse.. that way the producer of the product will have total control over the supply chain from the factory to your door.. it just makes more sense that way.
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Post by Gettershadow on Jun 24, 2014 13:30:55 GMT -5
HLpro ordered a change in the type of plastic used in Gattigers elbows.. something about it looking or working better. It wont effect release date though.. wont be long now.
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Post by Gettershadow on Jun 24, 2014 16:48:18 GMT -5
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Post by droutmaster on Jun 24, 2014 20:08:26 GMT -5
looks pretty good, i hope the spazer for this guy has the same type of finish.
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Post by Gettershadow on Jun 24, 2014 20:59:32 GMT -5
oh, I am sure it is... Ill ask.
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Post by TheMazingerZ on Jul 1, 2014 9:35:03 GMT -5
There is a picture of the prototype Z-Mazinger in HLPro's facebook page... it looks AMAZING!!! Yeah, yeah... the Chest Plate is upside down, but this is just a prototype folks! }D
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Post by Gettershadow on Jul 3, 2014 19:59:50 GMT -5
yeah HLpro just asked the production team to shoot a quick photo of how it was going and they just popped the chest piece in there quick and took a photo..
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Post by DUKE 77 on Jul 3, 2014 20:39:37 GMT -5
When Bandai made the space thunder effect for SRC Grendizer, "someone", at HL PRO accused Bandai of stealing their idea! Would Bandai revenge it now and accuse HL PRO of stealing their rocketo punchi effect?
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Post by actionawesome on Jul 3, 2014 23:49:45 GMT -5
Wow. That Z-Mazinger looks awesome.
I know I am late to the discussion but I had noticed the move to direct to factory selling. Bandai uses it heavily, to our chagrin, with TWE but it is brilliant on their end. Cost control. I just wish they would use it more actually. Hasbro is talking about doing it too and is moving to allow sellers to order specific figures.
Hopefully HLP moves this way because right now their distribution seems rough in my eyes.
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Post by reVolVer on Jul 4, 2014 8:56:22 GMT -5
HL PRO are giving a hint on making Astroganga. that would be another classic 70s mech getting a much welcomed modern rendition.
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Post by actionawesome on Jul 4, 2014 9:37:38 GMT -5
This thread is so long now. I kinda wish that we had threads about each of then figures. Lol
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Post by DUKE 77 on Jul 4, 2014 10:42:56 GMT -5
HL PRO are giving a hint on making Astroganga. that would be another classic 70s mech getting a much welcomed modern rendition. When? After 3 million light-years? This thread is so long now. I kinda wish that we had threads about each of then figures. Lol Yes, I agree. It should be the same for SRC, SOC, Revoltech, etc... and all toyline releases.
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