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Post by B- on Sept 14, 2014 19:10:29 GMT -5
The future is the future.. anything that is not now is the future. It will come in the future I cannot talk about the future... damn! No one asked you too.Chill. But the way you put it last,like weeks ago.. it was coming out SOON,like right after Gattaiger soon...that is not the future when speaking of a release that is deemed to come out in a few months. You yourself said they were releasing things QUICKLY now to meet up with the demand. When a company shows a painted prototype USUALLY that means the release is a matter of months away or less.So when you say not set in stone,the future etc..it sounds like AFTER the initial release....BTW you said you were going off on your motorcycle for awhile,and not going to say anything,yet you speak in riddles and say what you think we want to hear,and then when youve said too much and we get curious or mad whatever,you go and report it to HLPro who then gets mad,and then you act like its our fault...and say your too busy now with bicycles or whatever... And now you want to NOT say anything til Gattaiger day,and your going off in the sunset til then,yet you stick around and act upset etc.And say things that conflict with things youve said before Tom.Gee I dunno.Youve took on alot being HLPro communicator,so... |
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Post by B- on Sept 14, 2014 19:11:00 GMT -5
The future is the future.. anything that is not now is the future. It will come in the future I cannot talk about the future... damn! Baron, you know by now how HLPro operates. Your son will most likely be in middle school by the time a good Z Mazinger is released.  }D Id laugh,but Im afraid it may be true. |
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Post by TheMazingerZ on Sept 14, 2014 19:43:27 GMT -5
Yeah, you know it...!  HLPro has (had?) the best customer service around, no questions asked. However, it also has the most childish person in charge ever to run a company. So, why give that person even the time of day?! They are no Bandai, and they are no Sentinel. They make some cool figures (Super Robots), and they make some crap figures (Golden Chicken, French Barney, etc). Nothing special in my book, at least not anymore. The only thing that set them apart from the likes of Bandai (huge) and Sentinel (small), were the fact they shared pictures of their work in progress in THIS particular forum. Since that is no longer the case, who cares about them! They have joined the ranks of most of the other companies - with the exception of NOT allowing any criticism of their products and/or practices. }D |
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Post by Gettershadow on Sept 14, 2014 20:22:20 GMT -5
damn..
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Post by droutmaster on Sept 14, 2014 20:53:30 GMT -5
Well HLPro ruined Z-Mazinger they took ALOT of liberties with the colors,WHY ON EARTH are the limbs a different color than the body??Also I realize the manga is black and white but its already been instated by several models photos etc that the scrander is silver.. not red and...orange??!!! This is not manga accurate by any length.Sorry HLPro blew it with the paint choices im pissed. I mean the they only have the covers of these books as sources so how were the limbs botched??? Its not like they take liberties before,why now?Being such an obscure character it doesnt need variation.BLACK LIMBS not Blue!!!!I can ALMOST deal with the scrander it can be left off..but the limbs are a real problem here. Doing the ET Z-Mazinger model I took a special interest in this character,have seen every possible shot and photo and model of him,so I know. I think they tried to give it a real Mazinger feel with the blue limbs and red scrander BUT this isnt Mazinger-Z its Z-Mazinger...Its not their job to make the robot more pleasing to their color palette,the source dictates the colors period.They do get credit for subtleties ET missed like proper curvature of the chest crest tips and the notches on upper arms,good eye there,but they missed the red on inside forarm by elbow,and feet are odd as they chose to make a sphere instead of an incomplete window on the foot like teh ET version,cant comment there.   THIS is how it should look the way I painted it..  actually Baron,while indeed Z-Mazinger had black Forearms and black lower legs ,his hands where blue and not black. i don't really mind the color pallet looks pretty good. i guess they wanted to make it eye catching since this is quite an obscure character and maybe are concern that people might not notice it or be interested about it. |
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Post by B- on Sept 14, 2014 20:57:40 GMT -5
Anyhow as i said its not HLPros job to make it eye catching,then lets just make all Gokins bright chrome because its eye catching,or sparkling rainbow polka dots.Crazy about the blue hands didnt notice that indeed i believe you may be right!Gonna have to fix my model now..but gotta do more research first...indeed I found this,dont know teh source though.again could be a reflection on that cover and then below also got it wrong? Cant be certain.  |
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Post by droutmaster on Sept 14, 2014 21:18:46 GMT -5
I really don't think his hands are blue thats a reflection.Nowhere else is his hands blue.Anyhow as i said its not HLPros job to make it eye catching,then lets just make all Gokins bright chrome because its eye catching,or sparkling rainbow polka dots. there actually blue. The Mazinger Bible also confirms this that his hands are different in color than his forearms which in this case they make it look like silver.  Don't you think you are been a bit unreasonable, i mean even in Go Nagais manga covers that he has he pictures Mazinger Z with Black forearms and Black Lower legs and the next is Blue color instead. So in reality this is quite an extremely obscure one and painting it in those colors to homage Mazinger Z might help quite a lot to attract people. |
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Post by B- on Sept 14, 2014 21:24:23 GMT -5
Not really,I dont personally care if attracts anyone.And this isnt Mazinger Z,if there were pics of THIS particular robot with different color arms and legs elsewhere Id have no problem with it,but theyre arent.But thanks for pointing out the hands for me I appreciate that fully!
Also in the cases of mazingers arms different colors,never saw that with theoriginal Mazinger,but I believe you,BUT everyone knows and accepts the true color blue.
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Post by droutmaster on Sept 14, 2014 21:31:44 GMT -5
Not really,I dont personally care if attracts anyone.And this isnt Mazinger Z,if there were pics of THIS particular robot with different color arms and legs elsewhere Id have no problem with it,but theyre arent.But thanks for pointing out the hands for me I appreciate that fully! np, had a bit of lag stuck posting and didnt see your post edited. true, is strange that they change the color and totally agree with you, but i guess since there not so many full body color images of him and they variate depending what cover is i guess they wanted to go more standard coloring? or Perhaps GoNagai told them to use that color scheme?. i think if Gettershadow could check with them and ask what is the reason behind the color pallet choice to clarifye any doubts and such, of course if he has the time. |
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Post by greengetterguy on Sept 14, 2014 21:31:47 GMT -5
Wow....hands do look like its the same color as torso, thighs and upper arms....strange.
But really cool fact finding. Good job detectives. This is a very valuable information.
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Post by B- on Sept 14, 2014 21:36:44 GMT -5
Wait GGG the hands COULD BE silver,they seem to match the other silver scheme in the manga cover.Blue or silver I wonder now?? WOW now even more HLPros toys is screwed up OH MAN!!
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Post by B- on Sept 14, 2014 21:42:05 GMT -5
Ok Im going with silver,,note the blue hands of the other Mazinger versions in the bible pic,those characters are blue and you can see more blue shading in their fists,look closely at Mazinger USA right next to him,fists there are BLUE,Z-Mazingers fists match his other parts,and also on teh manga cover they seem to match too...only in that small full length photo are they definately blue,WHERE is that from?is that a legit illustration?.
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Post by droutmaster on Sept 14, 2014 21:43:33 GMT -5
i blame Go Nagai for this lol. XD
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Post by B- on Sept 14, 2014 21:46:29 GMT -5
There is so much going on here and subtle stuff with this character I JUST also noticed the sides of the knee caps are red!!HLPro only I would worry about such nuances,too bad Im not your editor.But in theend if it was me,I wouldnt let anything leave any factory including Bandai unless it was right,and they always reinvent and get it wrong..I would owe that to the fans and the source,even if it means correcting him{Go Nagai}LOL.
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Post by TheMazingerZ on Sept 14, 2014 21:52:37 GMT -5
Beware the pics on the Mazinger Bible! They are known for being wrong. Just look at God Mazinger in the cover, and then look at an actual screen capture from the anime.  Baron, the "blue" on that Z Mazinger drawing is only supposed to be the highlights of the "black". Don't screw up your figure! Remember, even Mazinger Z had wrongly colored "white" fists in an episode or two of the anime. Colors were not that important to the old Japanese anime artists. }D |
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Post by greengetterguy on Sept 14, 2014 22:00:23 GMT -5
Gosh. This is lot harder then i thought.
Side of the kneecaps indeed looks to be red from both maz bible and the pic provided by Drout.
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Post by B- on Sept 14, 2014 22:01:06 GMT -5
Beware the pics on the Mazinger Bible! They are known for being wrong. Just look at God Mazinger in the cover, and then look at an actual screen capture from the anime. Baron, the "blue" on that Z Mazinger drawing is only supposed to be the highlights of the "black". Don't screw up your figure! Remember, even Mazinger Z had wrongly colored "white" fists in an episode or two of the anime. Colors were not that important to the old Japanese anime artists. }D I thought about the God Mazinger thing,I think he is in his "statue" form like in the anime.Just double checked on youtube.. Im gonna leave my model as is,Im not sold either way as it could be black,silver or blue,but thinking about art in general and color schemes just the fists to be a different color than the forarms is HIGHLY unusual,cant think of any robot whos hands are a different color than his forarms off the top of my head.And I think ALL these conclusions and illustrations are being drawn on that ONE color drawing on the manga.Does anyone own these books?Are ther other illustrations?Im thinking of buying them. |
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Post by B- on Sept 14, 2014 22:04:18 GMT -5
Here he is again in statue form,I believe that is why they colored it that way..just watched teh aniem episode for a second,indeed he does have a statue form.But doesnt mean thebible is right in other areas by any means right TMZ!  |
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Post by TheMazingerZ on Sept 14, 2014 22:27:36 GMT -5
If I recall correctly, God Mazinger doesn't move around in Statue Form in the anime, and if it does, it's very rarely. It changes to metal form/colored form when the pilot "fades in", and then it moves. It might be different in the manga, but I can't tell because I've never seen it.  }D |
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Post by B- on Sept 14, 2014 22:58:11 GMT -5
No your right..I think maybe the pic is showing him in that static no pilot form you speak of his eyes seem dead straight ahead stare lol.but yout right though he should be colored standing with the others it seems silly.anyway I get your point on the bible TMZ...I won't take stock in it..thanks old pal.
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