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Post by Chen on Mar 15, 2012 12:34:49 GMT -5
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Post by grimeyingo on Mar 15, 2012 14:34:23 GMT -5
i hope they learned a little from hercs flaws and maybe they can stand a little less floppy when come out
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Post by shinobi03 on Mar 17, 2012 5:16:16 GMT -5
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Post by coldiron on Mar 17, 2012 7:55:37 GMT -5
Just one reason I don't want to go. I am a bigger fan of 3rd parties than hasbro. If they want to start making things the fans really want and make them available, then that will change.
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Post by Chen on Mar 17, 2012 10:51:35 GMT -5
It's all about money, don't let the whole speech about IP property and artistic rights and blah blah blah fool you. If Hasbro/Takara could get a piece of the profits from these 3rd part companies they would have zero problem with them. Which makes me wonder why they don't just sell licenses to these 3rd party companies, i know it would be a pretty penny but these companies aren't going away.
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Post by coldiron on Mar 17, 2012 11:08:19 GMT -5
I think hasbro needs a collectors line that acts as the 3rd party lines are. Giving limited runs of what the fans want at a premium price. Unless that is where mp is heading with taking in new characters but I doubt it.
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Post by Chen on Mar 17, 2012 11:26:28 GMT -5
It's basically just about resources and company development plans. Hasbro/Takara just don't have the resources to make the wide variety of 3rd party stuff coming out, if these were official Transformers then they would have to go through much higher QC and safety standards and that would cost a fortune plus also finding factories with additional capacity. These would have Hasbr/Takara's name on it so these products would be under a much higher level of scrutiny. Plus they also have to work on projects their developing themselves like the Prime and Movie lines.
Sell the license to some highly reputable 3rd party companies that have proven they can produce quality products. That way they can both give them the freedom to create what they want but also limit them on what segments of the Transformers franchise they can work on. If they can license out stuff like clothes and coloring books they should be willing to license out products or lines they currently have no plans for.
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Post by Ben-Ohki on Mar 17, 2012 18:44:47 GMT -5
With evidence that TFC is considering another combiner, I just hope they can iron out the problems they had with Hercules. And quality control... that was definitely something that was lacking. I mean, it's not like Hasbro and Takara aren't contracting Chinese factories too - so why is it that it seems the QC at the factory that TFC chose sucks so much? A bad molding here and there is understandable automated mistakes like that can happen... but when it's a missing part - that's a human problem at the assembly line that's unacceptable.
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Post by supergetterv on Mar 17, 2012 20:03:49 GMT -5
With evidence that TFC is considering another combiner, I just hope they can iron out the problems they had with Hercules. And quality control... that was definitely something that was lacking. I mean, it's not like Hasbro and Takara aren't contracting Chinese factories too - so why is it that it seems the QC at the factory that TFC chose sucks so much? A bad molding here and there is understandable automated mistakes like that can happen... but when it's a missing part - that's a human problem at the assembly line that's unacceptable. Total agreement because each one of my TFC Devastator figures has flaws and some kind of QC problem. Maybe their second production run would be better. But with such low production runs so far, it should still be better. I mean, if fansproject has such high quality and maketoys also has pretty good quality, TFC really need to contract better toy production company or hire more compotent workers. With the fiasco of the credit card frauds and the banned on after market and 3rd party products, Tfcc and botcon could really well die off. The thing that doesn't make sense with with hasbro/takara is that the targeted demographics and customers base is totally different. Hasbro makes toys, targeted to be sold to children. Very few item are specialy made and are targeted to collectors. There are only two repaint special edition repaints made to be sold to collectors each year along with a free one for their lame membership. I mean a $12 deluxe toy sell for 5X cause it is repainted and retooled for collectors. Yes, they want to tap into thhe collectors demographic customer base. But aside from the Masterpiece line, they aren't offering enough to satisfy the majority of the fan base. Over the past couple of years, 3rd parties has really help the TF collecting community as I have noticed just home many more TF collectors there are. |
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Post by southpawdragon on Mar 17, 2012 22:08:35 GMT -5
the real war will begin if Takara Tomy/ Hasbro starts instructing online stores and brick and mortar stores not to carry third party toys. I know it happened to KO toys but they were selling KO predominantly
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Post by edge on Mar 19, 2012 11:54:57 GMT -5
I dont know about that :/ can they really even do that? Aside from threatening to not allow said vendors to sell their own Hasbro/Takara products I dont think they can tell them to stop selling 3rd party stuff. I think if there was a legal course of action those companies would of already jumped into this a long long time ago.
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Post by eternalm on Mar 19, 2012 17:57:07 GMT -5
That's pretty much how it would go. "Stop selling 3rd party stuff, or we won't sell you Hasbro stuff anymore"
Hopefully it doesn't happen, because I'm pretty sure BBTS would fold, especially since they're opening up a brick and mortar
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Post by coldiron on Mar 19, 2012 18:39:27 GMT -5
It already happened with Takara. Last year they threatened to kill the stores takara distribution if they carried knock offs.
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Post by Chen on Mar 19, 2012 18:44:44 GMT -5
I can understand putting the pressure on stores that sell knock offs but 3rd party stuff is a completely different story. Their just filling a hole left by them and threatening stores that they might blacklist them is not only shooting themselves in the foot with potential sales but also makes them look like some kind of tyrant dictator.
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Post by supergetterv on Mar 20, 2012 1:57:34 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure that BBTS would not fold to Hasbro even with their up coming retail store. The reason being, let look at how much retail and attention they got from sales of the TFC Hercules, 6 individual robots selling at 100$. I mean, I don't have their books or anything, but it was believe that their system took well over 200 orders of each of them figures. That's more than 1200 figures sold. And the 3 Causality Fansproject Insecticons figures, those are at least 600 figures. Don't know if they sold that much volume of official Transformers stuff from Hasbro this year. Let's not forget that Hasbro screwed them with the First Edition Transformers Prime voyagers and wave 1.5 that was supposed to have the Vehicon and Cliffjumper figure. Those were never sent to them forcing bbts to loose probably hundreds of preorders. And let's also not forget about them TF Animated figures that never seen the light of day, too that Hasbro screwed the vendors on.
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Post by nikodiablo on Mar 21, 2012 23:31:29 GMT -5
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Post by tragichero on Mar 22, 2012 0:38:54 GMT -5
This Megatron looks very G1 accurate.I dig both the mode. But it is kinda small.
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Post by locidm on Apr 2, 2012 14:06:05 GMT -5
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Post by Chen on Apr 5, 2012 7:21:00 GMT -5
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Post by southpawdragon on Apr 5, 2012 22:58:41 GMT -5
is sonicron even worth $20.25.
my biggest endorsement is for WB001 Warbot Defender
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