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Post by DUKE 77 on Sept 26, 2010 17:15:50 GMT -5
You never like anything...don't you? I like originality. Ripping off a character from a different series is not my idea of NEW. It may be cool and all, but it is not original. }\ No offend, really...but I noticed that you mostly add some negative/or counter inputs to the posts (not only the SKL issue) LOL I have a record for you, mate! Don't delete anything <kiddin' you> As for the rip-off thingy, not always bad...if the idea is new, why not looking at Mazinkaiser as an 'actor' who is playing a new role in a new movie? I believe that this was what Nagai wanted from the beginning. It seems to be a plan to attract the Devilman, Getter, Gundam, Mazinger canon, etc...fans to this new SKL work! There are basically four or five original ideas/mecha designs. Tetsujin - the first giant man controlled robot, Mazinger Z - The first piloted super robot. Com-Battler - The first robot that was made up of individual parts/vehicles and Reideen - the first transforming super robot, the Getters MAY be considered the first morphers since their combination is so utterly impossible. Pretty much every design after is a variation or combination of the above. Nice analysis!
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Post by TheMazingerZ on Sept 26, 2010 17:22:36 GMT -5
There's also the Gao Gai Gar type cyborg/mecha combination, the Laserion style - non physical robot frame, and of course the "Gods" such a Zeus from Shin Mazinger.
But that's not what I meant. I would've like to see a totally new mecha, not related to Mazinger/Mazinkaiser/Getters/Gundam. You know, Zeorymer and Dai Guard are good examples of this. There were even sketches of a Gao Figh Gar style Mazinger like mecha that didn't look half bad. At least it was not a refried character like Mazinkaiser SKL...
}D
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Post by TheMazingerZ on Sept 26, 2010 17:30:15 GMT -5
Dammage7, you will need to get used to other opinions. I have my own, you have your own, and others might have their completely different ones as well. They are all points of view. I will express mine just like you express yours.
}D
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Post by autarch on Sept 26, 2010 18:53:33 GMT -5
That 3 Min of SKL is better than pretty much every Mazinger anime that has come before.
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Post by DUKE 77 on Sept 26, 2010 20:02:22 GMT -5
Dammage7, you will need to get used to other opinions. I have my own, you have your own, and others might have their completely different ones as well. They are all points of view. I will express mine just like you express yours. }D Express 'Em, Man!If someone tries to stop you...burn him with the Breast Fire. I use my Space Thunder too! P.S. smoking your own cigarette(s) could bother the others.
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Post by magengar on Sept 27, 2010 10:23:16 GMT -5
Now THIS is what I like to see! ACTION, BLOOD, MECHS, even the enemy robots are piloted (or so it seems)... ...so I'll get to see them enemy pilots blood-chopped up along with their mechas. Yo, This Kaiser moves like a Smooth Operator! as in "Golgo13 Barbarian Samurai", y'all! I dig his Turbosmasher punch with the red accents (the red fins) as you can now see them better... ...that red means a target's gonna BLEEEEED, yo! Smash 'em up set their grills to straight-Drippin! ;D I think I'm gonna enjoy this much more than that dragalong paced Shin Mazinger series. I enjoyed that series too, don't get me wrong, folks. But THIS-- Daaaaaamn, I love the original Mazinkaiser series; but This is Definitely winning me over! ( I just Hope I won't come away b*tchin about it in the end after watching this.) zozo-Magengar
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Post by droutmaster on Sept 27, 2010 12:48:37 GMT -5
More references to other Nagai works: - Ken Kaidou and Ryo Magami's codenames are Amon and Lucifer, respectively. - The female Skull Force members are called the Gren Falcon Squad. - Aira's handmaidens (personal guard?) are named after Cutie Honey's transformations (Hurricane, Flash, Misty and Fancy).
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Post by magengar on Sept 27, 2010 13:35:54 GMT -5
That's interesting to know (right now I can't hear the audio in the videoclip- at a public library and I don't have headphones with me) Looks like this series will be splattered with Go Nagai references. ;D
zozo-magengar
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Post by autarch on Sept 27, 2010 14:22:18 GMT -5
When you visually quote a theme that you have created in your own work it is not recycling but reinforcing the lore in your story.
I honestly feel that Go Nagai has made this for me me me, and me ALONE!!!! Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahah.
Heheh, the tears of the haters. They are truly narcotic hhahahahahah.
Remember when everyone got mad at me for mocking CUTE BS? Pouty emo pilots etc? That was rad. Yea, HAIL SKL.
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Post by DUKE 77 on Sept 27, 2010 14:32:19 GMT -5
One of the cool things 'bout Mazinkaizer SKL too is the 'animation' which makes the movements indeed very cool. Mentioning Shin Mazinger Shogeki! Z Hen, I did not enjoy it myself too! What I really wish to see after this...is another Mazinkaiser series (w/ Kabuto) and would be AWESOME to see Grendizer as a guest star or something I won't mind if it's a movie as well.
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Post by magengar on Sept 27, 2010 14:36:20 GMT -5
I hear ya, another Mazinkaiser series with Koji would be cool. That would take that series to the next level, the way Mazinger-Z went on to Great Mazinger. Off-topic, for its own thread:As for Grendizer, I think a group of Italian fans are working on an anime for " UFO King Grendizer" by Luca Papeo of Studio Itaca (NOT the live-CG fanmovie by GTgroup)... ...perhaps some Googling could turn in some updates on that project. I'll check and see. Late edit: here's what I found thus far... neoshinka.wordpress.com/2009/06/27/ufo-king-goldrake/...and THIS... ...this video needs to be investigated... I hope it's what it means to be... a cool (and Good) CG rendition of a Grendizer fanmovie. zozo-Magengar
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Post by autarch on Sept 27, 2010 15:33:45 GMT -5
Looks like the beginning of great video game. I wish there was superrobo love in current games. Plenty of realistic mecha, but HFS, how awesome would a SUPER ROBOT game, that is actually fun? mind you... I am well aware of the awful games (SRD, etc). My hopes are that "Kinect" will bring about the most awesome mecha game of all time...
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Post by DUKE 77 on Sept 27, 2010 18:39:31 GMT -5
Oh, that is not Italian! It belongs to Peter Jivkov, I can't remember his nationality but he saw Grendizer in Libya as a kid, then inspired by the show became a graphic designer in USA His website: www.imagecorefxx.com/grendizer and the clip you brought is from his Youtube channel. As for Italian clips, check those out... ...And yes, UFO King Goldrake is another Italian fan made Grendizer
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Post by DUKE 77 on Sept 27, 2010 20:03:32 GMT -5
It's either: - Mazinger Z + Great Mazinger + Grendizeror Mazinger Z + Great Mazinger + Mazinkaiser (which annoys me when displayed cuz I see doubled Kabutos) or Great Mazinger + Grendizer + Mazinkaiser <whew! what a super Mazin team of titans>;D I mean if I have enough money to buy a trio of 'em! Personally, I'd go for the 1st line despite the fact I love Kaiser. First line gives originality + there is no SOC Kaiser after all LOL!
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Post by magengar on Sept 28, 2010 10:59:01 GMT -5
Ah, Thanks for clarifying that for me... Even I had these all confused. LOL! That "Grendizer Returns" flick has me curious, I gotta check it out. It's kickin ass!!! zozo-Magengar Oh, that is not Italian! It belongs to Peter Jivkov, I can't remember his nationality but he saw Grendizer in Libya as a kid, then inspired by the show became a graphic designer in USA His website: www.imagecorefxx.com/grendizer and the clip you brought is from his Youtube channel. As for Italian clips, check those out... ...And yes, UFO King Goldrake is another Italian fan made Grendizer
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Post by DUKE 77 on Sept 28, 2010 14:40:08 GMT -5
What I hope to see is a Gren/Kaiser work where Grendizer & Mazinkaiser kick@$$! "MAZINDIZER, GO!"Cameo: Great Mazinger
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Post by magengar on Sept 28, 2010 15:39:47 GMT -5
If That were to happen, we'd all be in Deeeeep DooDoo: Grendy's taller than Great Maz... try fitting them BOTH on camera in a scene! ;D Let's Not forget about that, folks. Also: Grendy's from another world, and material composite, altogether... how would we know his true height (in real life) if he were to land on our planet right now? And, oh yeah, he'll need lotsa room to whirl that Harken around in an urban environment... like, the Statue of Liberty's gotta DUCK or get her head and torch-arm chopped off. LOL! ;D zozo-Magengar What I hope to see is a Gren/Kaiser work where Grendizer & Mazinkaiser kick@$$! "MAZINDIZER, GO!"Cameo: Great Mazinger
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Post by magengar on Sept 28, 2010 16:31:37 GMT -5
I WANT THIS TOY!!!!!!!!!!! zozo-Magengar
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Post by droutmaster on Sept 28, 2010 16:41:06 GMT -5
that is the coolest thing i have ever seen, now if it only had a grendizer figure on it it would have been perfect XD
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Post by magengar on Sept 28, 2010 18:41:12 GMT -5
I didn't mean to throw us all Off-Topic with that RC Spazer... ...but, Damn, I stumbled upon it- and I just HaAad to post it here before it got away! I triple-DARE y'all to tell me "no Grendizer fan would want this"... ...I'd tell you to go make a Kite fly YOU! ;D
zozo-Magengar
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