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Post by droutmaster on Apr 17, 2014 16:50:24 GMT -5
im not sure how high the card rank goes, so far for what i have seen seems to be from 0 to 2 i search trough the internet for the available card of the robots and units, no pilots included (note there could still be missing more robots and such). didn't include the character pilots for the reason there could be 3 cards of it(2 been pretty much the same and one been with a special ability or something like that). anyway here are the cards that i was able to find for now. Mazinger cards Getter cards sorry that is a bit heavy in the pics
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Post by TheMazingerZ on Apr 17, 2014 21:56:22 GMT -5
Awesome find Drout! I'm saving all those to my HD right NOW!!! }D
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Post by TheMazingerZ on Apr 17, 2014 22:02:39 GMT -5
Hmmm... so this means that the Shin Mazinger will also be stronger? It is rated just 20 points less than Grendizer in its cards. }D Therefore: Shin Great Mazinger (which doesn't really offically exists) is stronger than Shin Mazinger Z. Therefore: UFO Robo Shin Grendizer (which doesn't really officially exists either) is stronger than both. But yes, I know MAZINKAISER is the GOD OF ALL SUPER ROBOTS! But no, Mazinkaiser is ALWAYS more powerful than Grendizer. }D But, of course! Not nice to edit some else's post bro. See what I mean? }D
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Post by droutmaster on Apr 17, 2014 23:07:06 GMT -5
Awesome find Drout! I'm saving all those to my HD right NOW!!! }D np, but had to edit the Mazinger card set again forgot to add 1 Grendizer card as well i found a new card, the venus ace from the shin Mazinger Zero manga. i so would like to have high resolution in wallpaper format of some of the cards artworks, they look pretty sick.
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Post by DUKE 77 on Apr 18, 2014 14:20:24 GMT -5
Not nice to edit some else's post bro. See what I mean? }D Yes, bro...I can see! I can see... July 2010: April 2014:
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Post by TheMazingerZ on Apr 18, 2014 17:37:35 GMT -5
Hmmm... seems like some "bots" accounts are doing some voting in the last two days... Drout, so in those cards, they have representations of all the versions of the robots? Like, for example, I see Mazinger Z (Toei), Manga Mazinger (from Mazinkaiser OVA), Shin Mazinger,and Shin Mazinger Zero (from the manga). They all seem to retain the same power thou... Anyway, thanks again for sharing these cards. I may even take them to Kinkos and get some good sized prints out of them! }D
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Post by droutmaster on Apr 18, 2014 21:15:22 GMT -5
Hmmm... seems like some "bots" accounts are doing some voting in the last two days... Drout, so in those cards, they have representations of all the versions of the robots? Like, for example, I see Mazinger Z (Toei), Manga Mazinger (from Mazinkaiser OVA), Shin Mazinger,and Shin Mazinger Zero (from the manga). They all seem to retain the same power thou... Anyway, thanks again for sharing these cards. I may even take them to Kinkos and get some good sized prints out of them! }D yes the Mazinger Z cards pretty much holds the same stats in each version, but there effects is different to each version even when there on the same rank. yes they more or less hold the same power even when they are high rank cards as well, but there could be multiple version of the character in the same rank but showing you different stats when you get a rank up version of say character as well different and stronger special ability or increase of there stats or even both at same time. Example, look at the 3 Mazinkaiser cards, all of them are rank 2 but one has a different ability, also notice as well the Shin getter cards, same rank but one gets a different ability as well an increase on its stats. another good example would be the sunrise crusade set of GaoGaiGar, GGGG alone has 5 version of it with the stats of 6/3/6 but each card has a different effect (one card been of course the Goldion Crusher version) something to point out, the Dynamic Crusade cards set only has from my understanding 3 types of package edition, now compare to the Sunrise Crusade cards they have more than 15 so you can say the Dynamic Crusade are a bit lacking. However from what i get, a 4th pack edition for the Dynamic Crusade is in the works so maybe new cards will be made.
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Post by DUKE 77 on Apr 19, 2014 1:09:11 GMT -5
Hmmm... seems like some "bots" accounts are doing some voting in the last two days... }D Yup, with the cyan line! I agree but in the last two "years".
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Post by TheMazingerZ on Apr 19, 2014 10:58:28 GMT -5
It was just convenient that when Mazinger Z overtook Grendizer, all of a sudden Grendizer got more votes and the poll was closed... we need to investigate this event - I SMELL FRAUD!!! }D
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Post by DUKE 77 on Apr 19, 2014 16:32:03 GMT -5
It was just convenient that when Mazinger Z overtook Grendizer, all of a sudden Grendizer got more votes and the poll was closed... we need to investigate this event - I SMELL FRAUD!!! }D Overtook?? Never. Last week, I posted the poll on the Mazinger Canon Facebook (a non Mazinger, non Grendizer land) cuz it is me who smelled fraud (coming from some Arab kid I know). So, looking back at 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013 and 2014 seeing Grendizer's fan favorite, I find it logical but even a bit too much for the Iron Castle to be behind the King of Space by only 3 votes in the last week's before the poll ends - a year late, in fact. Relax, Bro, the winner fairly is and has been always Grendizer here, on other forums and on social networks.
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Post by TheMazingerZ on Apr 19, 2014 18:50:18 GMT -5
I don't know... Mazinger was winning a few days ago. And by the way, this is the only forum where I have seen Grendizer even come close to Mazinger in popularity. As a matter of fact, the other forums I frequent, since many years ago, even had a nickname for Grendizer every time someone mentioned its name (Magengar can attest to this), the nickname was: GRENBURGER! But I did try to make the members like Grendizer at least a little, but it did not work. Mazinger Z, Great Mazinger, and Mazinkaiser were the only Nagai Super Robots that got true respect there. Different parts of the world, different strokes. }D
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Post by DUKE 77 on Apr 19, 2014 19:20:22 GMT -5
I don't know... Mazinger was winning a few days ago. And by the way, this is the only forum where I have seen Grendizer even come close to Mazinger in popularity. As a matter of fact, the other forums I frequent, since many years ago, even had a nickname for Grendizer every time someone mentioned its name (Magengar can attest to this), the nickname was: GRENBURGER! But I did try to make the members like Grendizer at least a little, but it did not work. Mazinger Z, Great Mazinger, and Mazinkaiser were the only Nagai Super Robots that got true respect there. Different parts of the world, different strokes. }D Bro, Bro, Bro... why do I always have to refresh your memory? But first, let's face it: The Mazinger(s) were not winning! The Mazinger(s) lost this poll already since Day One till Year Four ([DOCUMENTED FACT]). If a Mazinger wins on "other" forums, oh, so we're talking about forums full of fanatics who cannot accept seeing a new boss of Kabuto and a superior super robot than the Mazinger(s)! Hmmm, and which non-Japanese TV aired Mazinger Z first? Oh, Spain... but not the rest of Europe where millions adore UFO Robo Grendizer and respect the show for the morals and deep humanity meanings it includes unlike the horny kid Kabuto (ref. Mazinkaiser). Now, let the refreshing images begin... OFFICIAL: Oh, someone is SUPERIOR? [24 - 02] Oops! Random FB shot on a "public" group - Ouch!You can fool some people for some time... ...But, you can't fool all people all the time! But yeah, different people and different tastes... You have the right to the inferior mecha! LOL, LOL & LOL! GRENDIZER, GO!
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Post by TheMazingerZ on Apr 19, 2014 21:52:23 GMT -5
Lots of fan made stuff you posted there D7, but it still does not change the facts. 1. Mazinger Z is the most famous Super Robot World Wide. 2. Mazinkaiser is the most poerrful and indestructible of all Go Nagai creations. This is clearly supported by the anime (not fan made speculation). 3. Grendizer is so below in fame compared to Mazinger Z, that it has not had a new show or manga in decades. 4. Grendizer sells so poorly in comparison to Mazinger Z, that Bandai only made the SOC GX-04(s) and never revised it. Add to that the treatment Grendizer received as an SRC, and the lack of interest shown by Bandai to give it even the basic Spacer. Tsk, tsk... 5. HLPro has held in to Grendizer, but even them are diversifying into different mechas now. 6. CM's cared so little about Grendizer, that they did not care how it turned out (unlike they cared for Kotetsu Jeeg or Gordian). 7. Not even hardcore fans of Grendizer showed it enough respect to finish jobs they started years ago (UFO Grendizer Movie, UFO King Grendizer anime and figure, etc...). 8. So, in comparison, Grendizer is nothing but a shadow next to? Mazinger Z (and possibly Mazinkaiser too). Sorry bro, but this is reality. No fan based love or respect. Just the cold hard facts. }D
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Post by DUKE 77 on Apr 20, 2014 3:49:38 GMT -5
Lots of fan made stuff you posted there D7, but it still does not change the facts. 1. Mazinger Z is the most famous Super Robot World Wide. 2. Mazinkaiser is the most poerrful and indestructible of all Go Nagai creations. This i (rofl)s clearly supported by the anime (not fan made speculation). 3. Grendizer is so below in fame compared to Mazinger Z, that it has not had a new show or manga in decades. 4. Grendizer sells so poorly in comparison to Mazinger Z, that Bandai only made the SOC GX-04(s) and never revised it. Add to that the treatment Grendizer received as an SRC, and the lack of interest shown by Bandai to give it even the basic Spacer. Tsk, tsk... 5. HLPro has held in to Grendizer, but even them are diversifying into different mechas now. 6. CM's cared so little about Grendizer, that they did not care how it turned out (unlike they cared for Kotetsu Jeeg or Gordian). 7. Not even hardcore fans of Grendizer showed it enough respect to finish jobs they started years ago (UFO Grendizer Movie, UFO King Grendizer anime and figure, etc...). 8. So, in comparison, Grendizer is nothing but a shadow next to? Mazinger Z (and possibly Mazinkaiser too). Sorry bro, but this is reality. No fan based love or respect. Just the cold hard facts. }D LOL! No, you gave me a good reason for a morning laugh. OK... 1. Mazinger Z isn't a "most" famous worldwide. In many places around the globe, Mazinger became known only because of UFO Robo Grendizer. Jean-Claude Van Damme doesn't know Mazinger. 2. Never seen a scene or official stats sayin' Kaiser is more powerful than the King of Space! In fact, the stats we have should list Grendizer as superior as he's always been and forever will be. It's how he was created; a super robot team leader. 3. Untrue! Who didn't play a role in both movies Grendizer VS Great Mazinger and Super Robots versus the Seabeast? Yet, who appeared as a cameo in Mazinkaiser vs Ankoku Daishogun and powerfully in Mazinkaiser promo? First answer Mazinger Z. Second answer UFO Robo Grendizer. 4. Bandai is milking Mazinger Z. No other Mazingers were made nor is Grendizer. Don't make me laugh more, Bro! 5. It is called HL PRO not HL Fleed! 6. LOL! You talkin' bout 1 of their most anticipated figures? It sold well despite its QC. Imagine if it had a good quality? Grendizer, go! 7. Hahaha please, visit YouTube. 8. Unfortunately, the only broken shadow is usually lil' poor Mazinger Z. I read so many fan complaints how he always gets damaged.
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Post by DUKE 77 on Apr 20, 2014 12:47:40 GMT -5
Well, just to be clear, that book is not Italian! It is the Italian translated version of the original Japanese book that held back then the same info. But you are right compare to the anime some of those info are not 100% accurate Buttomline: All official books and stats rank UFO Robo Grendizer as an advanced/superior super robot to both mechas Mazinger Z and Great Mazinger! Where Mazinkaiser is none but an extension of the Mazin mechas. Dunno what are we debating about here? OK, here is a simple technical method: - * Super Robots = Cars * Mazinger Z = Fiat 1984 * Great Mazinger = Fiat 1994 * UFO Robo Gren Dizer = BMW 2000 Technologically: Fiat 1994 is a better car than Fiat 1984 while BMW 2000 is the best among 'em... Ta-Da! Now, a breaktime...
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Post by TheMazingerZ on Apr 20, 2014 15:48:03 GMT -5
Buttomline: All official books and stats rank UFO Robo Grendizer as an advanced/superior super robot to both mechas Mazinger Z and Great Mazinger! Where Mazinkaiser is none but an extension of the Mazin mechas. Dunno what are we debating about here? OK, here is a simple technical method: - * Super Robots = Cars * Mazinger Z = Fiat 1984 * Great Mazinger = Fiat 1994 * UFO Robo Gren Dizer = BMW 2000 Technologically: Fiat 1994 is a better car than Fiat 1984 while BMW 2000 is the best among 'em... Ta-Da! Now, a breaktime... Well, thank you for that car years comparison. It finally proves that even you accept that Mazinkaiser is the God of Nagai Super Robots! Grendizer 1970's robot - Mazinkaiser 2000's Super Robot! Ha! Your other numbered post reply, it just made me laugh so hard I passed out! Nobody knows Grendizer in three quarters of the world, but can recognize Mazinger right away! Now, now, I know you're desperately defending Grendizer the best you can, but you need to keep it close to reality at least a little. Chen, you can't delete this thread! Where else would you find such non-sense debates???!!! }D
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Post by DUKE 77 on Apr 20, 2014 18:44:23 GMT -5
Well, thank you for that car years comparison. It finally proves that even you accept that Mazinkaiser is the God of Nagai Super Robots! Grendizer 1970's robot - Mazinkaiser 2000's Super Robot! Ha! Your other numbered post reply, it just made me laugh so hard I passed out! Nobody knows Grendizer in three quarters of the world, but can recognize Mazinger right away! Now, now, I know you're desperately defending Grendizer the best you can, but you need to keep it close to reality at least a little. Chen, you can't delete this thread! Where else would you find such non-sense debates???!!! }D Of course Mazinkaiser (Fiat) is the latest upgrade of the Mazin mechas (not the Dizers (BMW), and not Go Nagai's super robots)...and in fact, there is only one GrenDizer as far as we know In addition, do not forget that Mazinger Z, Great Mazinger and Grendizer in the Kaiser OVA are all-new recreations of the same timeline. Yet, a 1994 BMW is surly better than a 1998 Fiat.
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Post by mazingetter on Apr 21, 2014 5:29:15 GMT -5
Anyway, back to topic. Has Grendizer ever used its Screw Crasher attack while docked with the Spazer.
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Post by Chen on Apr 21, 2014 6:40:30 GMT -5
Deleted some posts and sent out some PM's. Let's try and keep things friendly and on-topic we're all brothers here and fans of Super Robots. Let's remember that we all have that in common.
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Post by DUKE 77 on Apr 21, 2014 9:44:35 GMT -5
Anyway, back to topic. Has Grendizer ever used its Screw Crasher attack while docked with the Spazer. I like your memory-refreshing questions, bro Yes, he did...in fact, in 2 of the 3 eps I've listed for you before he does. I am sure he does it other times in other eps. too. You know, what really still confuses me is why hasn't he use the missiles in his belly belt before...or, was it just a missile storage for his hand missiles?
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