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Post by Mechanical Flesh on Sept 23, 2014 11:53:46 GMT -5
I guess this should all play by specific rules. What do I mean? That if Grendizer has to be compared with other super robots, then those robots must be from its era. And possibly, from the same universe.
It's kind of pointless to state "Grendizer is weaker than this Mazinger Z demi-god in berserk mode". Almost sounds like I'm describing the EVA 01 unit here... one of the reasons why I passed on this manga, but I digress. Shin Mazinger Zero is a re-imagining of the original Mazinger story. It's a "let's start over and modernize everything" approach to the classic.
If we have to compare Grendizer to other robots, classic Maz Z, Great Maz, Gaiking, classic Getters (Robo and Robo G) they all work. But comparing it to the new stuff? A bit unfair if you ask me.
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Post by S_Gokin on Sept 23, 2014 11:59:09 GMT -5
Note: in Japanese "Giga" means "Giant God"...mmm, sounds scary, anti-dizers? Who said we are anti Grendizer ? i actualy love grendizer but for some how love doesn't make him the most powerful in Nagai creatioons
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Post by S_Gokin on Sept 23, 2014 12:03:58 GMT -5
I guess this should all play by specific rules. What do I mean? That if Grendizer has to be compared with other super robots, then those robots must be from its era. And possibly, from the same universe. It's kind of pointless to state "Grendizer is weaker than this Mazinger Z demi-god in berserk mode". Almost sounds like I'm describing the EVA 01 unit here... one of the reasons why I passed on this manga, but I digress. Shin Mazinger Zero is a re-imagining of the original Mazinger story. It's a "let's start over and modernize everything" approach to the classic. If we have to compare Grendizer to other robots, classic Maz Z, Great Maz, Gaiking, classic Getters (Robo and Robo G) they all work. But comparing it to the new stuff? A bit unfair if you ask me. you are right my friend but that will end our discussion that era grendizer was the most powerful, but his fans are comparing him to the new generation of the new mazingers & mazinkaisers witch is not fair for him, with the new mangas shin mazinger zero & grendizer giga we can do the comparison all over again when go Nagai release some numbers for each and every one of them
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Post by chogokinabdul on Sept 23, 2014 12:10:16 GMT -5
I know ... they should totally do !! @ S.gokin .. just chill man .. if it makes you feel better then yes ... that poorly written manga prove everything ... and well .. grendizer survived two nuclear bombs and he don't need to left 300 ton dominika !! his weight is close to 300 tons according to nagai so .... yeah ... he is in different level than the other mazins chill bro... it is fictional HAHAHAH cornered all day bro you are ignoring facts, again like I said we are not talking about the manga that Go Nagai (the creator) wrote not a fan made we are not talking about how good or how bad is it, so focus please we are talking about facts my friend, your info isn’t correct griendizer Weights 280 tons not 300 tons, the Demonica weights 325.000 tons not just 300 tons you forgot 3 zeros that’s more the 10x grendizers while mazikaiser weight just 39 tons and he left it up and throw it away, in the movie professor Yumi said “Mazinkaiser has limitless power surely he has powers surpassing god and devil” that’s mean he’s the most powerful & the strongest Nagai Robot ever hands down,and till Go Nagai unveil some info about mazinkaiser skl and the new great mazinkaiser he will still holding that place otherwise hopes & dreams & emotions won’t make griendizer the most powerful, you guys still live in the era when griendizer was the strongest but we are in 2014 grendizer lost the place long time ago sorry and welcome to the future chill bro... it is fictional again ... chill bro ... just chill ... if it makes you happy then yes ... I am trying to help you here! I agreed with you long posts ago... just chill It is fictional man and a guilty pleasure... watch and enjoy what you like man... nobody is judging you
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Post by reVolVer on Sept 23, 2014 12:15:25 GMT -5
very amusing thread... keep it up guys..
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Post by TheMazingerZ on Sept 23, 2014 13:40:14 GMT -5
*Sigh*... a freaking space seat?! Grendizer rides around in a freaking seat now?!!! Go Nagai sure has a way of screwing things up HUGE. What a crappy Spacer idea for a new Grendizer... Looks like those twenty five cent children rides you can find outside the supermarket. LAME!!! }(
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Post by chogokinabdul on Sept 23, 2014 13:44:07 GMT -5
and he have cape !! a fu+king cape !!
I don't have hope in nagai new creations!! all the recent good ones were not writen entirly by him encluding mazinkaiser!! why dose a super robot ride in a fu+king space ship???
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Post by TheMazingerZ on Sept 23, 2014 13:55:12 GMT -5
LOL, chogokinabdul, why do you ignore facts? You know what...? Keep ignoring 'em, these facts. Cuz the truth is out there! Oh yeah, I remember that Grendizer movie (had Grendizer's theme music). That's the one that Getter Robot G had to kill the monster, because none of the others could. Here... }D
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Post by reVolVer on Sept 23, 2014 14:16:16 GMT -5
*Sigh*... a freaking space seat?! Grendizer rides around in a freaking seat now?!!! Go Nagai sure has a way of screwing things up HUGE. What a crappy Spacer idea for a new Grendizer... Looks like those twenty five cent children rides you can find outside the supermarket. LAME!!! }( lol Duke Fleed riding his seat, seat riding grendizer, grendizer riding saucer seat??? Grendizer's my no.1 bot,, but i agree.. THAT SUCKS!!! did he became a G.I. Joe or something? LOL
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Post by S_Gokin on Sept 23, 2014 15:02:44 GMT -5
very amusing thread... keep it up guys.. Join the frontlines my friend lol
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Post by S_Gokin on Sept 23, 2014 15:08:15 GMT -5
*Sigh*... a freaking space seat?! Grendizer rides around in a freaking seat now?!!! Go Nagai sure has a way of screwing things up HUGE. What a crappy Spacer idea for a new Grendizer... Looks like those twenty five cent children rides you can find outside the supermarket. LAME!!! }( lol Duke Fleed riding his seat, seat riding grendizer, grendizer riding saucer seat??? Grendizer's my no.1 bot,, but i agree.. THAT SUCKS!!! did he became a G.I. Joe or something? LOL Hes name here is Ruke fleed & Maria is he’s OLDER sister I know I know but let’s just see how Nagai imagined grendizer and not compare him with the old anime But I’m with you the new spazer concept is ridiculous & that cape come on , there’s only two robots look awesome in capes the black getter robo & mazinkaiser skl
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Post by chogokinabdul on Sept 23, 2014 15:19:56 GMT -5
this is not how grendizer was supose to be !! this is a new take on grendizer... I have read somewhere that the original grendizer wasn't very diffrent than the grendizer we know ! only koji was added to it and nagai was against that! this is new and very different!
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Post by RoboFestivus on Sept 23, 2014 15:29:51 GMT -5
The original Grendizer, Duke Fleed and Spacer.
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Post by droutmaster on Sept 23, 2014 17:42:11 GMT -5
Grendizer Giga is a manga reboot of the original Grendizer story by Go Nagai. It features a new main character, Daisuke Uryu/Ruke Fleed instead of Daisuke Umon/Duke Fleed from the original series. Pilot of this Giga Spazer is Maria (his sister). UFOs have appeared invading Earth and Daisuke Uryu comes across a giant robot that gives him the power to fight back against the threat. Note: in Japanese "Giga" means "Giant God"...mmm, sounds scary, anti-dizers? if Grendizer is a giant God and Mazinkaiser surpases the power of both Gods and devils, then doesn't mean that Mazinkaiser is stronger than Grendizer then? on another note, so the Grendizer GiGa Manga finally is out? i though it would come out in October. i don't know what to think of the new spazer....right now it pretty much made Grendizer pointless to be use to begin with on this manga so far. will have to wait for more info on the matter.
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Post by magengar on Sept 23, 2014 23:57:05 GMT -5
Grendy's head..... on the Great Booster... as a "Hood Ornament". doOod, I choked on a large chunk of bread when I read that part. zozo-mag
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Post by S_Gokin on Sept 24, 2014 8:14:34 GMT -5
Don't pay much attention to that claim, bro. Lots of folks like to claim stuff as "official" when it is total fantasy, never ever seen in any real anime, manga, or even SRW game. Give me a few, and I'll post some reality here so the new generation can actually see who's the greatest of Nagai Super Robots. Done... Now, after seeing these two scenes, straight out of their animes, it really doesn't matter what anyone says, even Go Nagai himself. The proof is in the puddin'... }D You took exactly the two scenes I was talking about in my earlier post lol thumbs up Btw king gory was going to destroy grendizer but he was betrayed by gandal & zuril
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Post by S_Gokin on Sept 24, 2014 8:17:58 GMT -5
this is not how grendizer was supose to be !! this is a new take on grendizer... I have read somewhere that the original grendizer wasn't very diffrent than the grendizer we know ! only koji was added to it and nagai was against that! this is new and very different! I know it’s a full reboot & you are right Nagai was against putting Koji in the series put toei animation forced him to guarantee success, Nagai didn’t do grendizer the way he wanted to because toei was forcing him to other things he had a lot of ideas for the show in his mind but he couldn’t do them, so when I said “how Nagai imagined grendizer” I mean without Koji and without any one interfering in his work of course he had an ideas but with time he develop that ideas and add some more so we are going to see what Nagai going to do when he is in control
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Post by DUKE 77 on Sept 24, 2014 8:57:11 GMT -5
I see junior robot S_Gokin is trying his best here, but sorry, junior, you have to go through this thread from page #1 till its mids so you could learn which super robot in Go Nagai's World is the leader of all. I am serious cuz I will not repost what I already posted here before. By the way, change your avatar photo, why are you using the weakest mecha image among Nagai's Mazinger canon? King Gori ripped Dizer's arm ... Imagine what Gori could have done to the Mazin tin cans before Grendizer slashes him into 2 halves? As I said, you are trying hard but you need to read and learn, jr. Ciao.
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Post by chogokinabdul on Sept 24, 2014 10:09:38 GMT -5
I see junior robot S_Gokin is trying his best here, but sorry, junior, you have to go through this thread from page #1 till its mids so you could learn which super robot in Go Nagai's World is the leader of all. I am serious cuz I will not repost what I already posted here before. By the way, change your avatar photo, why are you using the weakest mecha image among Nagai's Mazinger canon? King Gori ripped Dizer's arm ... Imagine what Gori could have done to the Mazin tin cans before Grendizer slashes him into 2 halves? As I said, you are trying hard but you need to read and learn, jr. Ciao. Yup ... this is the problem with newbs ! all the time! they like the new lights and all the colorfull SFS and a beam that cut planets in halfs and monsters getting blowen away with one attack !! they get over excited easily!
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Post by S_Gokin on Sept 24, 2014 10:59:26 GMT -5
I see junior robot S_Gokin is trying his best here, but sorry, junior, you have to go through this thread from page #1 till its mids so you could learn which super robot in Go Nagai's World is the leader of all. I am serious cuz I will not repost what I already posted here before. By the way, change your avatar photo, why are you using the weakest mecha image among Nagai's Mazinger canon? King Gori ripped Dizer's arm ... Imagine what Gori could have done to the Mazin tin cans before Grendizer slashes him into 2 halves? As I said, you are trying hard but you need to read and learn, jr. Ciao. LOL I might be new here but that’s doesn’t mean I’m new to Nagai & Robots & you are the one who’s trying so hard to prove something that’s your feeling wish its true, we agreed long time ago that grendizer is more powerful than mazinger z & great mazinger but that’s was in 70s lol & that doesn’t mean he can defeat them easily like you feelings are telling you so here’s some facts for you Fact 1: in the movie great mazinger vs grendizer, greandizer had a really hard time trying to beat great mazinger & he couldn’t until Koji told him about great mazinger weakness. Fact 2: in Go Nagai dynamic Heroes manga mazinger z fought grendizer (he was piloted by duke fleed) and yet mazinger z stand tall against him ( & he didn't get slashed in 2 like you feelings said) Fact 3: also in same manga grendizer couldn’t stand without mazinger z & great mazinger helping him (read my earlier post) & mazinger z with great mazinger defeated two alien robots with some minifo for desserts I’ve read the thread you are just putting a fan made pictures and talk a lot about your feelings and what you wish is true, lets the facts talk not emotions Mazinger z was the weakest in the 70s we are now 44 years after!! ^ We still don’t know his true powers because he didn't unveil it but his breast fire attack can go throw the planet Btw you changed the subject we were talking about grendizer vs mazinkaiser skl because you know the regular mazinkaiser power are limitless and his powers surpass god and devil so it won’t be fair for grendizer but I understand if someone “new” cornered me I will do the same Z all the way dizers
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