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Post by biottigiovanni on Nov 29, 2010 6:47:40 GMT -5
I found out that yamato has re-released the 1/48 version of the vf-1s for both Roy Focker and Hykaru but i do not know if it is the same model of some years ago or is a re engineered one.
Someone know if there are some differences ?
thankyou
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Post by Chen on Nov 29, 2010 16:41:43 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure it's just a re-issue of the old 1/48, there might be small detail changes but I'm not 100% sure.
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Post by kaeruze on Nov 30, 2010 18:49:19 GMT -5
It's a "package renewal" reissue, exactly the same figure in a different packaging (box art + box size reduced, if I'm not mistaken)
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Post by GLaw on Dec 2, 2010 20:43:47 GMT -5
Yes, what Kaeruze says above is true as I just got 1/48 VF-1S Hikaru custom (package renewal).
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Post by 00silvergt on Dec 13, 2010 14:55:13 GMT -5
I know Chen is the resident expert when it comes to Yam Valks...so I need to ask. I have always been a Chunkey Monkey guy wtih a few 1/48's that had never been opened. I just bought a 1/60 VF-1S from eBay, so this is my first of that line. I read about this shoulder issue and the seller assured me that the shoulders on his was perfect. So if you can give me the heads up on what to look for, it will be much appreciated. TIA
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Post by kaeruze on Dec 13, 2010 19:12:37 GMT -5
Congratulations, you made a great choice. Yamato's 1/60 is one of the best Macross toys ever made. You can check the list of the different issues and their shoulder hinge status on this site : anymoon.com/blog/2010/03/02/yamato-160-version-20-vf-1s-superstrike/In a nutshell, if your VF-1S is one of the recent issues (Anniversary edition with super/strike pack, weathering special or TV version) it is supposed to be "safe". Otherwise you should be very careful when transforming the arms |
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Post by quinjester on Dec 14, 2010 2:17:58 GMT -5
It's not even transforming - they'll break themselves just from sitting on your shelf (mine did) or in the box.
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Post by 00silvergt on Dec 14, 2010 15:00:23 GMT -5
Yeah, guys, that's what I've heard and read, that the shoulders would simply disintegrate from the pressure from the weight fo the back of the battroid. The one I got was the Anniversary, without the super strike fast pack. blue/red box.
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Post by Chen on Dec 15, 2010 16:51:04 GMT -5
Yeah I'm far from a Yamato expert since I only own 2 but I do keep a constant eye on Yamato Macross products since I love the franchise, but you should be all right, I have the first release VF-1s Roy which is notorious for cracked shoulders and the VF-1J with the same problem. My Roy has a crack in it but still transformable but my 1J, I transformed it once and the hinge snapped and the arm came off. But if you got the anniversary version you should be fine since Yamato did change the pins that hold the shoulder joint together but I would be VERY careful when transforming it still. It's just a delicate toy where a lot of the transformation depends on the flexibility of the plastic itself, the shoulder joint is a perfect example where you have to rotate it then lift it over a small tab to lock in place so your counting on the plastic bending a little and the joint itself from not breaking. Even with the new pins in the shoulder joint it's just a bad design where they could have made the outer tabs just beefier/wider. If you take a look you'll see what I mean, for me I just leave them in fighter mode I just don't want to take any chances transforming them to many times and have another MF GGGG on my hands.
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Post by 00silvergt on Dec 16, 2010 14:19:31 GMT -5
Wow, Chen I thought you had several 1/60's and 1/48's. I heard that, perhaps the older 1/60's you had to remove the legs to transform? This was one of the reasons I went bigger to the 1/48. The 1/55 or whatever, chunkey monkeys are okay, but sometimes I want to display some realism. I got this 1/60 because I got a great deal, it was less than $70 shpped and it was from a seller that lives 45 mins away from me. The 1/48's were kind of disappointing, it was like playing with a model, rather than a toy, so I stopped after getting only 4. If the 1/60's fare better, I may get more.
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Post by Chen on Dec 16, 2010 16:34:38 GMT -5
Yeah it was the older 1/60 that you had to remove the legs to transform. The new 1/60's are better but their more on the model side than toy side like say the Bandai DX 1/60 VF-25's. Their beautiful to look at and the amount of detail is eye pleasing but once you get yours and you start to transform it you'll find out quick that you just can't manhandle the thing. Not to say that these will disintegrate if you just look at them but their not the sturdiest things going. I've been thinking about getting more since the new 1/60 has the most extensive line up of Macross fighters ever but these things cost a lot and quite frankly I just don't want to spend big bucks on a toy only to have a chance that it'll break on me.
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Post by mojacko on Dec 17, 2010 9:09:06 GMT -5
i just ordered a VF1S no paint kit from hlj since they have a 50% off fedex promo...hope this have no issues....will take some time to assemble it....slow build....hehehe
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Post by Philo Beddoe on Dec 17, 2010 17:51:43 GMT -5
I've been pondering getting one of these. Please post some pre and post pics if you get a chance.
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Post by mojacko on Dec 21, 2010 9:46:20 GMT -5
i got it yesterday delivered....hlj said 50% off fedex shippping..but my dad still paid $19.90 to the courier.......in the end 50% was almost 100%.....aaaarrrrghhhhhhh!!!
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Post by 00silvergt on Dec 28, 2010 13:45:12 GMT -5
Got mine Valk as well, before, Christmas. As I transformed it, I can see the hinge pin part (holder??) of the plastic separate, which freaked me out, then I checked the other shoulder and it does it as well. So I have bad shoulders. The great thing is that I emailed the seller; AlbertMingyu and we agreed on a fair resolution. I highly recommend working with this guy, if you ever run into his stuff. Anyway, yes, I've emailed some shop in Japan that will "attempt" to get the shoulders for me. If anyone has a better lead, please let me know, it would be nice to get this thing fixed. I opened the two 1/72 Yamato Macross Plus I have and though, it is hefty and the detail was of course amazing, these were not so secured as well. I will like if I were to have a brain fart and twist something wrong it would break. Heck, it took me 2.5 hours transform the VB-11! I was so paranoid about the shoulders and the rotation. I should probably open one of my 1/48's just for the heck of it as well. If these don't pan out, I think I am pretty much done with Yamato. I also have the Garland, that one was a bit scary at times.
Bottom line: it would be nice if the 1/60's were just a bit better in the durability department, sculpt is great, the markings are good and the articulation is excellent. But all these mean nothing when the toy falls apart at the shoulders, it makes me almost think of the 1/55 Toynami's...I said almost! LOL and yes, at least they aren't like the Alpha/Legioss or even the Cyclones...those are even more "sensitive".
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Post by Chen on Dec 31, 2010 9:56:05 GMT -5
Yeah Yamato Valks are a mixed bag, they look beautiful and the details are amazing but for such a complex transformation process you'd think they would have done more product testing just to find the weak spots. I guess they just assume adults buy these and so are just careful when transforming them, but my VF was busted right out of the box. It's funny when you compare a Yamato VF with say their 1/24 Patlabor or Danguard Ace it's like two different companies made these.
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Post by mojacko on Dec 31, 2010 16:34:11 GMT -5
Got mine Valk as well, before, Christmas. As I transformed it, I can see the hinge pin part (holder??) of the plastic separate, which freaked me out, then I checked the other shoulder and it does it as well. So I have bad shoulders. The great thing is that I emailed the seller; AlbertMingyu and we agreed on a fair resolution. I highly recommend working with this guy, if you ever run into his stuff. Anyway, yes, I've emailed some shop in Japan that will "attempt" to get the shoulders for me. If anyone has a better lead, please let me know, it would be nice to get this thing fixed. I opened the two 1/72 Yamato Macross Plus I have and though, it is hefty and the detail was of course amazing, these were not so secured as well. I will like if I were to have a brain fart and twist something wrong it would break. Heck, it took me 2.5 hours transform the VB-11! I was so paranoid about the shoulders and the rotation. I should probably open one of my 1/48's just for the heck of it as well. If these don't pan out, I think I am pretty much done with Yamato. I also have the Garland, that one was a bit scary at times. Bottom line: it would be nice if the 1/60's were just a bit better in the durability department, sculpt is great, the markings are good and the articulation is excellent. But all these mean nothing when the toy falls apart at the shoulders, it makes me almost think of the 1/55 Toynami's...I said almost! LOL and yes, at least they aren't like the Alpha/Legioss or even the Cyclones...those are even more "sensitive". sad to hear that you got a valk with the shoulder issue...i hope mine doesnt have any shoulder issue (even if it is a kit)....its ironic that fans paid enough $$$ and yet they get a crappy toy.....design and articulation is really top notch but maybe they should also consider in their list....quality.....  i remember there was a thread posted in Mworld about shoulder parts replacement. maybe you can try asking one of the mods in Mworld forums....  |
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Post by locidm on Jan 2, 2011 17:59:26 GMT -5
Jenius from anymoon.com and macrossworld has compiled a list of which valks are safe to buy. If you are planning to buy new valks, be sure to check out this list. Excerpt below: "Did you read that part above where I said that Yamato took old stock of the V1 VF-1J toy to include with this bundle? Well get this, the original stand alone VF-1J Hikaru was built before Yamato realized that the shoulders on their new flagship line were built to fail. So for those of you keeping track, here’s my understanding of what toys do and don’t have safe shoulders: 1) Focker VF-1S with Super Parts (V2) – Worst shoulders ever, avoid 2) Focker VF-1S stand alone (V2) – bad shoulders 3) VF-1A Hikaru with Super Parts (V2) – bad shoulders 4) VF-1A Hikaru stand alone (V2) – bad shoulders 5) VF-1J Hikaru with Super Parts (V2) – Potentially bad shoulders (far less frequency than the first four releases.. allegedly Yamato urged the factories to be more careful at this point… hell of a fix. 6) VF-1J Hikaru stand alone (V2) – potentially bad shoulders 7) VF-1S Hikaru with Super Parts (V2) – potentially bad shoulders 8′) VF-1D Trainer (V2) – I haven’t heard of a single broken one… rumor is that this release has smaller shoulder pins but I can’t substantiate that 9) VF-1S Max (V2) – Rumored to be safe (if you have any insight, please leave a comment) 10) VF-1A Max TV (V2) – Rumored to be safe 11) VF-1A Max DYRL (V2) – Rumored to be safe 12) VF-1A Hayao TV (V2) – Rumored to be safe 13) VF-1A Hayao DYRL (V2) – Rumored to be safe 14) VF-1J Cannon Fodder (V2) – Rumored to be safe 15) VF-1A Cannon Fodder (V2) – Rumored to be safe 16) VT-1 SuperOstrich (V2.1) – potentially bad shoulders (!) 17) VF-1S LowVis (V2.1) – Rumored to be safe 18) VE-1 Elintseeker (V2.1) – Rumored to be safe (review pending) 19) VF-1D Virgin Road (V2.1?) – Rumored to be safe (Let me know if you own one if it’s a V2 or V2.1) 20) VF-1J Miria (V2.1?) – Rumored to be safe but has some delicate paint 21) VF-1J Max (V2.1?) – Rumored to be safe but has some delicate paint 22) VF-1S Focker Anniversary (V2) – Rumored to be safe (review pending) 23) VF-1S Hikaru Anniversary (V2) – Rumored to be safe 24) VF-1J Hikaru with GBP (V2) – Reissue of stand alone with potentially bad shoulders" anymoon.com/blog/2010/02/16/yamato-v2-160-hikaru-vf-1j-with-gbp-gift-set/Oh, note that Yamato reissued the VF-1J Hikaru with GBP (V2) in May 2010 (I think), correct me if I am wrong, but I think this reissued version is rumored to be safe. |
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Post by pinoy78 on Jan 14, 2011 0:37:11 GMT -5
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Post by Philo Beddoe on Jan 19, 2011 13:15:05 GMT -5
I feel for you guys in Canada. Those customs fees are just killer. Better to have someone accept the item for you in the states and pick them up there (if you can). i got it yesterday delivered....hlj said 50% off fedex shippping..but my dad still paid $19.90 to the courier.......in the end 50% was almost 100%.....aaaarrrrghhhhhhh!!! |
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