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Post by TheMazingerZ on Oct 12, 2012 19:28:51 GMT -5
Where did you guys read about Atom's subscription being cancelled? Although I do not like the guy, I am not glad either. That really sucks as it could happen to any of us. I hope that he gets a positive fix on his subscription. Haha the Atom from CDX's Black Lion order got cancelled. Karma? Someone probably contacted Matty and brought up to their attention Atom's CDX Voltron lions and pilot figures reviews. Just a theory, and it wasn't me... I swear. But can you blame Matty for that? Or maybe he just had the same issue some of us had with our credit cards and Digital River.  }D |
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Post by droutmaster on Oct 12, 2012 19:30:37 GMT -5
he might not be the only one, my friend had his black lion subscription canceled mysteriously as well, wht? ironically, he received yesterday his blue Lion replacement, but what is the point if he cant have the Black Lion. Where did you guys read about Atom's subscription being cancelled? Although I do not like the guy, I am not glad either. That really sucks as it could happen to any of us. I hope that he gets a positive fix on his subscription. Haha the Atom from CDX's Black Lion order got cancelled. Karma? Or maybe he just had the same issue some of us had with our credit cards and Digital River. }D actually if Matty did that, they are in so much trouble and Atom just win in any possible situation XD. |
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Post by TheMazingerZ on Oct 12, 2012 19:33:29 GMT -5
Anyone else here had any problems with their Black Lion subscription, aside any credit card issues with Digital River?
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Post by TheMazingerZ on Oct 12, 2012 19:36:36 GMT -5
I don't think they would be in trouble as Atom was "officially" bashing their products on a pretty well known toy review web site. If anything they could also sue CDX as well. }D |
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Post by TheMazingerZ on Oct 12, 2012 19:39:40 GMT -5
I also think they can cancel the subscriptions at any time without warning. Matty did not take his money for the Black Lion, and they did provide him with the other lions he paid for. All in all, and as unfortunate as it may be, I think Matty can actually do that.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2012 20:00:26 GMT -5
Well, Digital River requests an Authorization to check if the credit card on file has enough funds, so it can be approved.
I suspect that during that process something happen which triggered the cancelation.
I suggest to anyone who got their subscription cancelled to continuously call Matty Collector until they renew the subscription.
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Post by droutmaster on Oct 12, 2012 20:01:55 GMT -5
I don't think they would be in trouble as Atom was "officially" bashing their products on a pretty well known toy review web site. If anything they could also sue CDX as well. }D I also think they can cancel the subscriptions at any time without warning. Matty did not take his money for the Black Lion, and they did provide him with the other lions he paid for. All in all, and as unfortunate as it may be, I think Matty can actually do that. }D incorrect, even if it was Atom as you say was"bashing" there product (which this is not entirely true) on its review and Matty decided to do this so he can't make a review or own a product because he was "bashing" them they will be still in trouble because of the Laws of Fair Use and Consumer Protection. denying such acts because he was "bashing" there product they will still be in a lot of trouble. but i doubt is because of that, it might be 2 possible things. - there credit card billing system is not working correctly and cause the Subscription getting cancel. - they haven't been able to produce enough Black Lions and they are canceling subscriptions as it goes. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2012 20:06:57 GMT -5
In all fairness, is CollectionDX that popular?
I am not bashing the site, but I am not sure if Mattel or other toy companies are aware of it.
And I do not think that Mattel will cancel that subscription for that one reason because Atom is a paying customer and not a reviewer that gets a free sample.
I do not think that the issue involves not having enough back lions. If that was the case, then they should send an e-mail stating that there should be a release delay (which they did with the Red Lion).
I do believe that it is indeed a glitch within the credit card system.
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Post by chachipower on Oct 12, 2012 21:18:35 GMT -5
Well I got confirmation of credit card charged today. Thank God I called last night to confirm that my CC info was updated because they had it screwed up completely. Then I called AGAIN right away and it was still wrong!
I stopped them and stated VERY clearly went over everything again...it was a nightmare really, thats all Im going to say about that. Just glad its done.
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Post by TheMazingerZ on Oct 12, 2012 23:43:46 GMT -5
incorrect, even if it was Atom as you say was"bashing" there product (which this is not entirely true) on its review and Matty decided to do this so he can't make a review or own a product because he was "bashing" them they will be still in trouble because of the Laws of Fair Use and Consumer Protection. denying such acts because he was "bashing" there product they will still be in a lot of trouble. Nope. There is always that fine print that states they can cancel the subscription at their discretion... always! Matty doesn't steal any money if they do not charge for an item they will not sell you, so no base for a lawsuit there. It is not the same case as with someone receiving a broken lion that they paid for and not getting a replacement once they send it back to Matty, or at least getting a refund for it. They just exercised their right to end their business with a customer. But this is 120% speculation and most likely did not happen. It would just be funny if it did. }D |
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Post by actionawesome on Oct 12, 2012 23:50:09 GMT -5
Twitter... anyone else on there? Follow me, same name. Odd. I follow him and never saw it and it is not in his stream that I can see. |
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Post by droutmaster on Oct 12, 2012 23:58:23 GMT -5
incorrect, even if it was Atom as you say was"bashing" there product (which this is not entirely true) on its review and Matty decided to do this so he can't make a review or own a product because he was "bashing" them they will be still in trouble because of the Laws of Fair Use and Consumer Protection. denying such acts because he was "bashing" there product they will still be in a lot of trouble. Matty doesn't steal any money if they do not charge for an item they will not sell you, so no base for a lawsuit there. It is not the same case as with someone receiving a broken lion that they paid for and not getting a replacement once they send it back to Matty, or at least getting a refund for it. They just exercised their right to end their business with a customer. But this is 120% speculation and most likely did not happen. It would just be funny if it did. }D you do realize that what i said is only on the basis "IF" Matty decided to cancel Atoms subscription only because of the "bashing" right? it does not cover such acts for Matty to cancel a subscription because of it. |
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Post by xiombarg on Oct 13, 2012 0:13:47 GMT -5
I've never really thought that Mattel was out to get Atom, and I too hope that it gets cleared up quickly and easily, but still... it's an odd coincidence.
Does Mattel know who CDX is? Mmm, by name, unlikely... IF Mattel has paid any attiention to CDX it's because of the Youtube reviews, and if they have paid attention to these reviews, the name of "Collection DX" would have nothing to do with it. It would only be in passing to see what the public reaction for any given product might be. But even this is unlikely. With companies as big as Mattel, the way they judge public reaction is by looking at their own sales spreadsheets, not grassroots consumer input. Mattel has been doing this for a long time, and any "new" product they produce isn't really new, it's just a restructured calculated risk based upon past sales data and consumer research.
Back to CDX though, it's likely that CDX is too broad in its focus to have the following that sites like the action figure sites or especially the Transformer sites have, who cater to a fairly narrow and specific audience, and some of these sites like the Transformer sites possibly have registered members numbering in the multi-hundreds of thousands, or even million plus? Not to mention that they have user forums, giving people a reason to go back several times a day, like many of us do here at Robot Japan. Other than just to see what the review of the day is, there isn't much else to see at Collection DX. As far as reviews go, Collection DX does a good job of covering areas that not a lot of others do, but these areas of collecting are a relatively small audience, especially here in the states.
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Post by springloaded on Oct 13, 2012 5:39:46 GMT -5
Ladies and gentlemen, I come to you with what I believe to be the first unbiased review on the fully combined Voltron. First I want to talk about Keith though. If you have Lance and Sven you know what to expect, but the quality control on mine is horrendous. Your millage my vary, but he's easily the worst of my pilots. This is especially frustrating as 1.) Keith is my favorite, and 2.) I wasn't just buying these to get a large scale Voltron. The pilots were just as big a part of this line as the lions were for me.  His helmet is glued on crooked and there's some kind of blemish behind the visor. His belt is off center, which allows you to actually see the diamond groove on the torso underneath where it was supposed to have been. The left side of his torso doesn't sit flush with the rest of his body. His torso is extremely dirty. His key tampo and the white circles on his shoulders are off their mark. And last but not least, he has some rather unsightly scratches. The photo doesn't do justice to how bad he looks. For $15 it's really unacceptable. Then to add insult to injury the collect and connect piece is scratched up on both sides. Now on the contrary, my Black Lion's quality control is quite good, so I'm not gonna risk getting a worse lion just to get a better pilot. Of course if Mattel didn't have ass backwards customer service I wouldn't have to send back the whole kit and caboodle just to get a replacement figure (which is individually packaged anyway), but clearly satisfied customers isn't one of Mattel's priorities.  As a stand alone lion I think Black is pretty nice. The size is quite massive, and the rear legs have a nice amount of poseability since there's no action feature in them. The front legs do have the same issues as the others thanks to the spring loaded gimmick, and it aggravates me that Black is the only lion that can't open his mouth without it springing shut, but overall I'd say it's my favorite of the five. Depending on the size of your fingers you should be able to get the cockpit open without the key (unlike Yellow), but it does lock firmly shut (unlike green), and he's able to hold his weapon securely in his mouth (unlike Blue). The spring loaded parts seem to stay put until you want them to pop out. For instance if you're handling it in lion mode and you happen to hit the crest the head won't pop out. The head will stay in place unless you push the crest all the way down.  Going into this final release I already had a number of complaints regarding the fully formed Voltron. I really disliked the ways the legs folded up, particularly on the arm lions. I disliked the look of Voltron's head, which is very off model due to the fact that it doesn't protrude into the body. The lack of bicep swivel would definitely be missed, and I was already preparing myself for the spring loaded legs to cause a major headache by popping out at random. One thing I hadn't even considered might be a problem was how well Voltron would combine, and I regret to say it's not good. I first attached the Yellow Lion, which seemed to lock into place, but then as I went to attach Blue, Yellow came crashing down the table. Great! Turns out the legs don't lock into place for crap. Chances are you won't be needing that release button on the back of the legs because all you need to do to is pick Voltron up for them to come off. If you fiddle with them for long enough you might get lucky and hit that sweet spot to which they actually stay locked into Black Lion, but you shouldn't have to play around with something for 10 minutes just to get the legs to properly attach. Suffice to say, the design here was very poorly done. The arms worry me as well. When I initially attached them there was no click, or any other indication that they were properly locked into place. At first I thought I hadn't pushed them in all the way, so I tried pushing harder, but nothing was happening. After playing around with it some more I learned that sometimes you'll hear it lock into place, and sometimes you won't. If you attach the arms slowly you're more likely to hear it, but oftentimes you'll find yourself wondering "Are they in?" I've already had Red Lion fall off once while attempting to move Voltron, so I'm very leery about the connection points here. I should feel more assured that they will stay put on something as expensive as this. On the subject of transformations be careful when transforming Black Lion. I only looked at the instructions briefly because it looked pretty straight forward, but I ended up doing something in the wrong sequence of events, which caused one of the legs to get stuck locked into a position that I couldn't get it out of. I ended up having to take that section of the lion apart (thankfully the screw I needed to remove wasn't covered) in order to correct the problem.  But let's move past the transformation. Even if you're sure that everything is locked nice and secure, you'll still find that standing Voltron is a bit worrisome. When standing up straight he leans a bit forward, making it seem like he's on the verge of falling on his face. Forget about moving his arms up at all, he'll topple right over. So you try ratcheting the legs and knees back a notch, but in both cases Voltron will be leaning too far backwards. Turns out you need to bend one of his knees one notch backwards to get him to stand with a good amount of balance and be able to actually raise his arms. That's more poor design for you. Voltron should be able to stand up perfectly straight without you having to worry about him falling over. Posing him is also a PITA. We already know his elbows are very tight, so it should come as no surprise that his knees are as well. The force it takes to move some of these joints, and the resulting "snap" they make worries me, but hopefully I'm just being paranoid. I get that the joints need to be tight to support all the weight so I'm not really complaining about it, though it's quite aggravating when the effort it takes to move the joints also makes the spring loaded legs continue to pop out of place. Realize if you hadn't already that this isn't something you're gonna be playing or doing much posing with. Despite its problems this Voltron still makes a pretty impressive looking toy based on its size alone, but the problem is the size is pretty much the only thing he has going for him. And with the problematic connections as well as his balance issues I can't say I actually trust leaving him in his combined form for very long (I'll let others test the waters and see how well he holds up on display). Despite my already lowered expectations, I'm still much more disappointed with this than I thought I would be. It's really a shame how this entire line has turned out, mainly because it had the potential to be something amazing. I try to tell myself a flawed giant Voltron is better than no giant Voltron at all, but it still stings, especially at the price it ends up costing when all is said and done. |
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Post by Chen on Oct 13, 2012 9:32:23 GMT -5
I'm thinking this is a case where the execution didn't match the expectations. Still as you said on sheer size it's quite impressive, but Keith seriously looks like a bootleg figure and a bad one. Not what you expect from a major toy company.
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Post by TheMazingerZ on Oct 13, 2012 12:07:25 GMT -5
Sorry to hear about all the issues your Voltron and figures have. I still hopeful that mine doesn't have any. We'll see once I get it. Are you gonna sell it then? Just curious... }D |
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Post by Chen on Oct 13, 2012 12:45:28 GMT -5
I was watcging the video ver at CDX that chachi took and in it they had Voltron standing like yours with the knees slightly bent.
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Post by xTIMMYxCOREx on Oct 13, 2012 14:13:24 GMT -5
Crap. They send me a defective black lion.
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Post by droutmaster on Oct 13, 2012 14:31:55 GMT -5
springloaded, sorry to hear about your issues on your black lion. i have to admit the size is very impressive but i guess is also its weakens making going a bit forward then? i think is the blue and yellow lion, for me there kinda a tiny bit to small. another factor for that maybe is because that open gap on the upper tight of the leg.
xTIMMYxCOREx, lmao. well they did tell you they were gonna send you a black lion so maybe the cats name is black lion XD. hey cna you take a pic of the black lion beside your cat for more comparison sizes?
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Post by xTIMMYxCOREx on Oct 13, 2012 14:38:16 GMT -5
Lets form Voltron!!
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