Miracle Productions Diecast Vehicle Voltron.

[anubis20]

Precisely, i would understand if it was a knockoff of a figure that they released. But they never released anything and now they dont even want to let me, an avergae collector, sell his own figure. F*ck them!!

Whats curious is that I found these Miracle VV but they do not show up when i search on ebay.

www.ebay.com/itm/MIRACLE-PRODUCTION-GOKIN-CHOGOKIN-XV-VEHICLE-FORCE-MA-01-NEW-IMPROVE-VERSION/151664021892?_trksid=p2047675.c100011.m1850&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20140602152332%26meid%3D2a1cccb5680040189da1f8419aaf1890%26pid%3D100011%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D5%26sd%3D181882355073

www.ebay.com/itm/100-NEW-MIRACLE-PRODUCTION-GOKIN-CHOGOKIN-XV-VEHICLE-FORCE-MA-01-Final-Version/271992142241?_trksid=p2047675.c100011.m1850&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20140602152332%26meid%3D2a1cccb5680040189da1f8419aaf1890%26pid%3D100011%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D5%26sd%3D181882355073

Thanks for the suggestion supergetterv, ill try that in a few days. That lady is probably watching my auctions to see if I relist since i sent a very nicely worded angry email.

[faelon]

I'm sorry to hear of this, although not surprised. I'm actually amazed it's taken this long given Toynami and WEP's business models.

The sad thing is I can't entirely fault them. Protecting their IP is their right. Technically both the MM VV and the MT KOB are unlicensed KO's. In other words Counterfeits. I just weep at how badly WEP manages said IP and how piss poorly Toynami exploits it and fails to satisfy the market. Those two products should have been legit licensed offerings.

As a general rule anytime a company is this aggressively stomping on third party products, that are not directly passing themselves off as actual licensed product, than the aggressive company is doing poorly or is in distress. Compare this to TomyTakara's recent approach to dealing with third party Manufacturers. They quickly undercut the 3p's with top quality official released product of better quality and pricing. Sending the market demand for the 3p's tumbling. (TT's newly announced Shockwave and Rodimus). Whereas faced with a similar situation Toynami simply released the same decades old tooling for yet another go round and called in the lawyers. (Out of curriousity, what was the last true new tooling or product that we have seen from Toynami?)

One faint hope in all of this. WEP and or Toynami might be aggressively protecting their IP in order to increase attractiveness for a buyer. That's the best hope for the fans. Get the IP in the hands of someone willing to use it properly.

[anubis20]

Like I told that lady in my email if they want to enforce their IP rights they need to go after the manufacturer/distributor of these figures. But going after 1 figure im selling on ebay really only comes off as petty. Like you said if they released more quality stuff and not that 10 year old "Masterpiece" Voltron than we wouldnt even resort to buying this. Takara was a great example of doing things right

[Philo Beddoe]

Oct 14, 2015 16:03:48 GMT -5 anubis20 said:

Like I told that lady in my email if they want to enforce their IP rights they need to go after the manufacturer/distributor of these figures. But going after 1 figure im selling on ebay really only comes off as petty. Like you said if they released more quality stuff and not that 10 year old "Masterpiece" Voltron than we wouldnt even resort to buying this. Takara was a great example of doing things right

I agree. By going after the end client they are ensuring that they will lose business from these potential customers in the future. Petty is right.

[Mr. Ginrai]

I also agree. If you were in business as a full time hobby shop/collectible store/retailer of whatever, etc. then you would be selling a product that has had a retail ban placed on it. Just like BBTS and other vendors couldn't sell it, you couldn't either.

But if you are just a guy with a toy, or a collector, you're selling yours on the secondary market and it doesn't really matter whether you stand to gain or lose money, or break even. You could have bought it yourself, through a friend, or it could have been a gift to you from a family member.

They are wading in to murky waters and can't police aftermarket sales from people that aren't an official retail business. You're not selling bootleg DVDs made in NY or counterfeit Louis Vuitton bags.

Ridiculous that they would even go to such lengths. I agree with Faelon that they have their IP to protect, but not at this low of a level. They look like whining children. But that's what you get for being a rights owner/license holder for years on end and never doing anything useful with it. They'll just keep their noses up in the air and continue to put a bad taste in the mouths of all the fans that would give them actual money if they did something respectful.

[S_Gokin]

at least Voltron is getting some attention

Bismarck (Ramrod) isn't getting any, the last figure for if was the the DX GC-22 by bandai and that was on 1985 exactly 30 years ago !!

why does they even hold its right if they are not going to do any thing AT ALL with it 

this is really really annoying shame on them

[Gakken]

I don't think I ever posted my review did I?
haha

[johnmc]

Oct 14, 2015 16:03:48 GMT -5 anubis20 said:

Like I told that lady in my email if they want to enforce their IP rights they need to go after the manufacturer/distributor of these figures. But going after 1 figure im selling on ebay really only comes off as petty. Like you said if they released more quality stuff and not that 10 year old "Masterpiece" Voltron than we wouldnt even resort to buying this. Takara was a great example of doing things right

Or taking a shot in the dark. Get off their lazy asses and get official Vehicle Voltron merchandise on the market. They can't shun VV fans for over 30 years and expect us to not want to run off and buy any 3rd party VV products. Toynami has no intention because they're too lazy. 

[anubis20]

What in the hell are these people smoking!!??!! Just got this email

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I represent Classic Media, LLC (hereinafter "Classic Media") with respect to certain intellectual property
enforcement matters. In addition I represent WEP, LLC (“WEP”), the owner of the VOLTRON characters and related trademarks and copyrights. WEP has developed substantial goodwill in its intellectual property and will not tolerate any infringement of the same.

It has recently come to my client's attention that you are infringing my client’s VOLTRON trademark, specifically by advertising, offering for sale and/or selling of unlicensed VOLTRON action figures. As such, your unauthorized use of the VOLTRON trademark constitutes actionable trademark infringement, dilution and unfair competition in violation of federal and state law. In addition, your unauthorized use of the VOLTRON character constitutes actionable copyright infringement (17 U.S.C. §501). U.S. Copyright Law in particular provides for specific remedies for copyright infringement including, but not limited to, actual damages plus any additional profits you made on the infringing products, counsel fees and costs, or in certain instances significant statutory damages (17 U.S.C. §504, 505).

Accordingly, we demand that you:

1. Immediately and permanently cease manufacturing, distributing, advertising, offering for sale,
and/or selling any unlicensed merchandise using the VOLTRON trademarks and/or copyrights, now or
in the future;

2. Immediately voluntarily surrender to Classic Media and WEP, your entire inventory of such infringing
products on hand as of the date of delivery of this letter;

3. Provide Classic Media and WEP, with a report indicating separately for each product on it, the sales
which you have made of products which bear any reproduction, copy, or colorable imitation of the
VOLTRON trademarks and/or copyrights(quantity and price), together with your cost for each
product. Copies of your records confirming your purchases and sales of such products should be
enclosed with the reports;

4. Provide Classic Media and WEP, with the name(s), and address(es) of your supplier(s) for each product,
which bears any reproduction, copy, or colorable imitation of VOLTRON trademarks and/or
copyrights;

5. Provide Classic Media and WEP, with a detailed accounting of your profits from the distribution of
products bearing any reproduction, copy, or colorable imitation of the VOLTRON trademarks and/or
copyrights;

7. Agree to pay those damages attributable to your use of simulations of the VOLTRON
trademarks and/or copyrights; and

8. Confirm, in writing, your compliance with the foregoing.


I look forward to receiving a response from you within 7 business days of your receipt of this letter so that we may resolve this matter amicably. The demands made herein are not made to the exclusion of other remedies to which Classic Media and WEP are entitled and Classic Media and WEP specifically reserve its rights to seek all remedies available to it under law as a result of your infringing activities.

Sincerely,

Stacy L. Papachristos, Esq.

IPAssure
Brand Protection Services, LLC

Stacy L. Papachristos, Esq.
President & Senior Counsel
PO Box 663

[locidm]

Wow how did you get their attention? One off sales on eBay? Ridiculous! What is your planned course of action?

[reVolVer]

LOL surrender your items to them? do paper works? pay them for damages?

Do they really think that people who are only selling personal items are that dumb?


Its just ridiculous.

[johnmc]

Nov 12, 2015 22:35:12 GMT -5 anubis20 said:

What in the hell are these people smoking!!??!! Just got this email

--------------------------------------------------------------------------

I represent Classic Media, LLC (hereinafter "Classic Media") with respect to certain intellectual property
enforcement matters. In addition I represent WEP, LLC (“WEP”), the owner of the VOLTRON characters and related trademarks and copyrights. WEP has developed substantial goodwill in its intellectual property and will not tolerate any infringement of the same.

It has recently come to my client's attention that you are infringing my client’s VOLTRON trademark, specifically by advertising, offering for sale and/or selling of unlicensed VOLTRON action figures. As such, your unauthorized use of the VOLTRON trademark constitutes actionable trademark infringement, dilution and unfair competition in violation of federal and state law. In addition, your unauthorized use of the VOLTRON character constitutes actionable copyright infringement (17 U.S.C. §501). U.S. Copyright Law in particular provides for specific remedies for copyright infringement including, but not limited to, actual damages plus any additional profits you made on the infringing products, counsel fees and costs, or in certain instances significant statutory damages (17 U.S.C. §504, 505).

Accordingly, we demand that you:

1. Immediately and permanently cease manufacturing, distributing, advertising, offering for sale,
and/or selling any unlicensed merchandise using the VOLTRON trademarks and/or copyrights, now or
in the future;

2. Immediately voluntarily surrender to Classic Media and WEP, your entire inventory of such infringing
products on hand as of the date of delivery of this letter;

3. Provide Classic Media and WEP, with a report indicating separately for each product on it, the sales
which you have made of products which bear any reproduction, copy, or colorable imitation of the
VOLTRON trademarks and/or copyrights(quantity and price), together with your cost for each
product. Copies of your records confirming your purchases and sales of such products should be
enclosed with the reports;

4. Provide Classic Media and WEP, with the name(s), and address(es) of your supplier(s) for each product,
which bears any reproduction, copy, or colorable imitation of VOLTRON trademarks and/or
copyrights;

5. Provide Classic Media and WEP, with a detailed accounting of your profits from the distribution of
products bearing any reproduction, copy, or colorable imitation of the VOLTRON trademarks and/or
copyrights;

7. Agree to pay those damages attributable to your use of simulations of the VOLTRON
trademarks and/or copyrights; and

8. Confirm, in writing, your compliance with the foregoing.


I look forward to receiving a response from you within 7 business days of your receipt of this letter so that we may resolve this matter amicably. The demands made herein are not made to the exclusion of other remedies to which Classic Media and WEP are entitled and Classic Media and WEP specifically reserve its rights to seek all remedies available to it under law as a result of your infringing activities.

Sincerely,

Stacy L. Papachristos, Esq.

IPAssure
Brand Protection Services, LLC

Stacy L. Papachristos, Esq.
President & Senior Counsel
PO Box 663



Wow. What assholes. They don't even include Vehicle Voltron in their Voltron licenses. I'm almost tempted to sell one of mine on ebay so I can tell them what I really think of them if they send me one of these.

[MegaPrime316]

Wow, just wow! I cant believe this is all because you decided to sell this on ebay. lol At one time there were several guys selling 10+, but they were from overseas, if that makes a difference.

[jaylive]

that is such bull sh--

[bader]

Lmao wtf??

[S_Gokin]

this is higher than what smoking will ever get you

they actually DEMAND you not asking nicely

ok i really understand that they want to protect their rights but as copyrights owners they are awful and raciest WHY the ONLY companies that can do Voltron is American ? why any other companies try to make one LEGIT get shut down and lawsuits over their a$$es, did they forget this is Golion not thundercats ? this is an Asian Anime its Japanese for god sake , so why they are trying to make it like they invented it

come on you are not giving fans any thing just an awful figure after another ? people start to forget about bismarck because of them

honestly i wish if Japan buy Golion back because WEP is just hurting it and annoying us as fans

bro move to china they WONT touch you there

 

[Chen]

If I were you I would post that e-mail everywhere just to show what a bunch of SOB's these guys are.

[johnmc]

Nov 13, 2015 11:53:36 GMT -5 S_Gokin said:

this is higher than what smoking will ever get you

they actually DEMAND you not asking nicely

ok i really understand that they want to protect their rights but as copyrights owners they are awful and raciest WHY the ONLY companies that can do Voltron is American ? why any other companies try to make one LEGIT get shut down and lawsuits over their a$$es, did they forget this is Golion not thundercats ? this is an Asian Anime its Japanese for god sake , so why they are trying to make it like they invented it

come on you are not giving fans any thing just an awful figure after another ? people start to forget about bismarck because of them

honestly i wish if Japan buy Golion back because WEP is just hurting it and annoying us as fans

bro move to china they WONT touch you there


Well Vehicle Voltron is Dairugger XV. I wish a Japanese company would buy the rights to both Dairugger and GoLion back. WEP is lazy, greedy and incompetent.
 

[johnmc]

Nov 13, 2015 12:18:25 GMT -5 Chen said:

If I were you I would post that e-mail everywhere just to show what a bunch of SOB's these guys are.

I've already posted it on their Facebook page and forums. Time to take these ba$t*rds to task.

[faelon]

It is likely time to actually call WEP and ask WTF!?! This is a legal threat delivered via e-mail. It gives a return address via a PO Box. Is not addressed to you by legal name or address. And is comming from some third party who claims to represent WEP. At a minimum confirm who this person is. Another good avenue of questioning might be WEP's North American Social Media Coordinator, who is also a well known Youtuber in the toy collecting community. He could probably point you in the right direction for contacting them directly.