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Post by faelon on Nov 13, 2015 16:53:26 GMT -5
This thread from TheLaw.com may be more than a bit revealing about Stacey esq. www.thelaw.com/threads/laywer-will-not-send-documentation-stacy-papachristos-ip-assure-scam.44340/Read both pages. As I said conatct WEP. Particularly noteworthy is she claims representation of Classic Media, who sold their Voltron trademark in 2012 (and also were simply the Anime distributor, having no piece of merchandising and marketing). Also noteworthy you should be protected via First Sale Doctrine and a reading of kirtsaeng v John Wiley and sons inc (2013). One key question in all of this, WEP holds North American rights and rights to Vehicle Voltron. Does Toei not hold Actual IP ownership and Asian rights? The item in question was manufactured overseas and was specifically individually imported, likely by you, for personal use. WEP's point of action would have been that sale. Everything about this smells of Bullsh*t. Report it to E-Bay and print out and send a copy and complaint via certified snail mail of it all to the Connecticut State Bar Association. I suspect that they are well familiar with this attorney and their scams. Also send a copy to the CT Attorney General's office. (They might really love this one considering Stacy Papachristos is a former member of Vince McMahon's ethically questionable wrestling business. and the McMahon's are politically on the outs in CT. ) Oh one more juicy tidbit. In reading through that THELAW.COM thread the lawyers there point out that thing that I noticed about her using E-Mail. Yeah that's a huge warning flag as it indicates that they are using a loophole to avoid Mail Fraud charges. If she sent this to you snail mail then it would be a criminal case. By sending it e-mail it's just SPAM. |
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Post by johnmc on Nov 13, 2015 18:07:25 GMT -5
It is likely time to actually call WEP and ask WTF!?! This is a legal threat delivered via e-mail. It gives a return address via a PO Box. Is not addressed to you by legal name or address. And is comming from some third party who claims to represent WEP. At a minimum confirm who this person is. Another good avenue of questioning might be WEP's North American Social Media Coordinator, who is also a well known Youtuber in the toy collecting community. He could probably point you in the right direction for contacting them directly. Its Michael French of Retroblasting [the Youtube Channel] I don't know how closely associated he is with WEP. he just runs the Facebook page and probably their twitter page. |
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Post by greengetterguy on Nov 13, 2015 19:46:21 GMT -5
they know we hate them...
For a great reason.
Ashorse
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Post by superelectro on Nov 13, 2015 19:55:10 GMT -5
Faelon,
Nice sleuthing work.
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Post by faelon on Nov 13, 2015 20:30:59 GMT -5
Faelon, Nice sleuthing work. Thank you. For those that didn't follow that link. This is a SCAM The lawyer appears to be a shady piece of work who carefully skirts some rather major ethical lines by extorting "settlements" out of E-Bay sellers of various IP's. (I would say she is well over them, but I'm not a lawyer.) This is essentially an extortion scam. As I said above if she wasn't using e-mail it would be mail fraud. 9Apparently you can demand all the money via e-mail you want. It only becomes a crime when you put a stamp on it). It is unlikely WEP or any of the supposed IP owners that she claims to defend have any true working relationship with her nor is she authorized to act on their behalf inthis manner. (That demand letter is rather carefully worded to imply that she is so doing without actually saying such.) WEP in all likelihood has nothing whatsoever to do with this. |
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Post by jaylive on Nov 14, 2015 0:13:37 GMT -5
great work faelon. bravo
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Post by S_Gokin on Nov 14, 2015 0:21:33 GMT -5
Thank you. For those that didn't follow that link. This is a SCAM The lawyer appears to be a shady piece of work who carefully skirts some rather major ethical lines by extorting "settlements" out of E-Bay sellers of various IP's. (I would say she is well over them, but I'm not a lawyer.) This is essentially an extortion scam. As I said above if she wasn't using e-mail it would be mail fraud. 9Apparently you can demand all the money via e-mail you want. It only becomes a crime when you put a stamp on it). It is unlikely WEP or any of the supposed IP owners that she claims to defend have any true working relationship with her nor is she authorized to act on their behalf inthis manner. (That demand letter is rather carefully worded to imply that she is so doing without actually saying such.) WEP in all likelihood has nothing whatsoever to do with this. i was going to ask you to be my lawyer man  hopefully you are right and they wont do any thing to anubis20  |
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Post by johnmc on Nov 14, 2015 7:38:26 GMT -5
Faelon, Nice sleuthing work. Thank you. For those that didn't follow that link. This is a SCAM The lawyer appears to be a shady piece of work who carefully skirts some rather major ethical lines by extorting "settlements" out of E-Bay sellers of various IP's. (I would say she is well over them, but I'm not a lawyer.) This is essentially an extortion scam. As I said above if she wasn't using e-mail it would be mail fraud. 9Apparently you can demand all the money via e-mail you want. It only becomes a crime when you put a stamp on it). It is unlikely WEP or any of the supposed IP owners that she claims to defend have any true working relationship with her nor is she authorized to act on their behalf inthis manner. (That demand letter is rather carefully worded to imply that she is so doing without actually saying such.) WEP in all likelihood has nothing whatsoever to do with this. If They had nothing to do with that email then they should come forward and say that they have nothing to do with that. I even emailed that Bob Koplar and heard nothing. Dead silence makes them look guilty. |
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Post by S_Gokin on Nov 14, 2015 11:46:56 GMT -5
Thank you. For those that didn't follow that link. This is a SCAM The lawyer appears to be a shady piece of work who carefully skirts some rather major ethical lines by extorting "settlements" out of E-Bay sellers of various IP's. (I would say she is well over them, but I'm not a lawyer.) This is essentially an extortion scam. As I said above if she wasn't using e-mail it would be mail fraud. 9Apparently you can demand all the money via e-mail you want. It only becomes a crime when you put a stamp on it). It is unlikely WEP or any of the supposed IP owners that she claims to defend have any true working relationship with her nor is she authorized to act on their behalf inthis manner. (That demand letter is rather carefully worded to imply that she is so doing without actually saying such.) WEP in all likelihood has nothing whatsoever to do with this. If They had nothing to do with that email then they should come forward and say that they have nothing to do with that. I even emailed that Bob Koplar and heard nothing. Dead silence makes them look guilty. exactly, but if they had nothing to do with it ,they can sue that person |
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Post by Philo Beddoe on Nov 17, 2015 22:12:28 GMT -5
Any new word on this?
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Post by Gakken on Nov 18, 2015 0:35:48 GMT -5
I say ignore it. They won't come after you. It would be way too expensive.
They are just trying to scare you IMO.
Doesn't suprise me that this is a scam. haha
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Post by anubis20 on Nov 18, 2015 10:54:42 GMT -5
Yea i pretty much told her to "f*ck off" and havent heard from her since. Thanks to all of you specially faelon for the help Im thinking since she was scamming and i told her that i made no money on this she cant ask for anything. |
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Post by faelon on Nov 19, 2015 0:38:07 GMT -5
Yea i pretty much told her to "f*ck off" and havent heard from her since. Thanks to all of you specially faelon for the help Im thinking since she was scamming and i told her that i made no money on this she cant ask for anything. Yeah. Here's a hint if ever anyone gets an e-mail or threat like this. Real Lawyers seeking real results use a stamp. You always have an absolute right to request anything in writing. if the lawyer is unwilling to put a stamp on it and get it postmarked there is a huge problem with what they are trying to pull. Just be careful when using that trump as you want to be cautious in giving out your own personal information. Clearly do not send your name and address to some shady Internet lawyer. If they do not already know your real name, there is a problem and they are likely a scam. In this case E-Bay has your personal info. They will release it to the legitimate IP holder in the event of a real issue, or they will act as the go between. (E-bay will close your auction and tell you to contact the IP rights holder to resolve.) |
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Post by johnmc on Feb 29, 2016 19:12:59 GMT -5
Any updates on this?
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Post by hiriyu on Mar 3, 2016 6:09:33 GMT -5
Interestingly, I also received a takedown on my Ebay auction of an MA-01 right about the same time as anubis20. It's too far back in my Ebay history for me to be able to pull up the infringement notice (I didn't archive it), but I just let it go without responding. I did not receive a demand letter as anubis did, just an Ebay notice that my auction had been pulled with a copy/paste complaint from what had appeared to be Classic Media. I just silently cursed WEP and Classic Media and put the MA-01 back in the closet for the time being, to be eventually sold on the black market instead (suck it!)
I suspect that the reason that the other auctions remain live is that they're all from HK sellers without US presence (I did notice one unit that's currently listed from Canada too.)
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Post by Gold on Mar 4, 2016 7:03:01 GMT -5
What update? It was already released a while back. Gold |
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Post by supergetterv on Mar 4, 2016 12:07:32 GMT -5
What update? It was already released a while back. Gold They are talking about the threats they get from WEP when trying to sell this figure on eBay. |
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Post by johnmc on Mar 22, 2016 16:55:11 GMT -5
What update? It was already released a while back. Gold They are talking about the threats they get from WEP when trying to sell this figure on eBay. Exactly. I was wondering if there was an update on their cease and desist notices. WEP has never officially commented on it. This has not made them look good. Now the expect fans to shell out $400 for a Ultimate DX Lion version around Christmas time. |
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Post by faelon on Mar 22, 2016 22:02:04 GMT -5
They are talking about the threats they get from WEP when trying to sell this figure on eBay. Exactly. I was wondering if there was an update on their cease and desist notices. WEP has never officially commented on it. This has not made them look good. Now the expect fans to shell out $400 for a Ultimate DX Lion version around Christmas time. Why would they comment about it? It had nothing to do with them. Heck even the scum sucking extortionist fraud lawyer claimed to be representing Classic Media, not WEP. There is nothing here for WEP to deny. They clearly were never a party to any of this. But by the same token they aren't going to give tacit approval to North American sales of this figure. Doing so would open the door for direct importing and weaken their case should they ever challenge MM. They clearly don't care if you sell your copy on E-Bay. It has nothing to do with them. Even if they did take some enforcement action against the lawyer seeking to fraudulently enforce their IP, that is not something they would ever do publicly. None of this makes them look good or bad except to a handful of Internet dwellers wearing tin foil hats. Making a statement would be taking ownership for a problem that has nothing to do with them. There is no positive for them in doing that. |
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Post by monari on Jun 18, 2016 9:37:43 GMT -5
What are some of the improvements of the version being sold at Toyercity compared to the previous two versions? Is there enough of a difference to justify buying a second copy?
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