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Post by faelon on Jun 18, 2016 13:47:12 GMT -5
What are some of the improvements of the version being sold at Toyercity compared to the previous two versions? Is there enough of a difference to justify buying a second copy? It will depend on which version you already have. There are Huge differences between Ver 1 and Ver 2/3. So much so that yes you would get much joy in replacing a Version 1 if you are unlucky enough to have one. If you have a V1 you likely know it. Tons of issues. Substantial differences in design. Very easy to spot. Josh at Collection DX has a series of videos highlighting them. Chances are if you already have the MMVV it is a V2 or later. There were only a handful of V1's released. I don't believe there actually is a difference between what we call Version 2 and 3. Just what some vendors call V3 was later in the production cycle and had better QC. If you have a version 2 that does not have any major problems, there is no need to get a V3. They are the same. Version 2 and 3 had major design changes from version 1, and fixed the worst problems. Many components were entirely redesigned. |
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Post by monari on Jun 18, 2016 20:09:33 GMT -5
Ok great. I have a version 2, so I'll stick with that then.
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Post by Yumcha on Jun 18, 2016 20:30:23 GMT -5
Okay wait...My figure is in storage for the moment but what version do I have then? I was one of those fortunate enough to get one from ToyFreakz...
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Post by faelon on Jun 18, 2016 21:36:25 GMT -5
Okay wait...My figure is in storage for the moment but what version do I have then? I was one of those fortunate enough to get one from ToyFreakz... One of the easiest ways to tell is with the feet trucks. The V1 had a spring panel on the bottom or each to in theory help prevent the robot from rolling. The V2 and V3 did away with that and the robot rests on its wheels. Overall the V2 and 3 just work and fit better. There were some major changes to the ships that form the legs and hips and how they connect. |
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Post by Yumcha on Jun 19, 2016 14:34:43 GMT -5
Okay wait...My figure is in storage for the moment but what version do I have then? I was one of those fortunate enough to get one from ToyFreakz... One of the easiest ways to tell is with the feet trucks. The V1 had a spring panel on the bottom or each to in theory help prevent the robot from rolling. The V2 and V3 did away with that and the robot rests on its wheels. Overall the V2 and 3 just work and fit better. There were some major changes to the ships that form the legs and hips and how they connect. Thanks! I'll have to take it out of storage (we're moving soon) to check later on...I mean, I didn't get the toy RIGHT away from Toyfreakz but I also was not one of those who had to fight for months to receive my PO...so, I'd say it was more or less around the initial release time that I got mine? I'm going to assume I have V1...I did take it out to inspect and generally, found no real issue with the toy overall though. At least not in the few minutes I examined it when it arrived. |
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Post by nakedmagnus on Jun 21, 2016 21:40:52 GMT -5
One of the easiest ways to tell is with the feet trucks. The V1 had a spring panel on the bottom or each to in theory help prevent the robot from rolling. The V2 and V3 did away with that and the robot rests on its wheels. Overall the V2 and 3 just work and fit better. There were some major changes to the ships that form the legs and hips and how they connect. Thanks! I'll have to take it out of storage (we're moving soon) to check later on...I mean, I didn't get the toy RIGHT away from Toyfreakz but I also was not one of those who had to fight for months to receive my PO...so, I'd say it was more or less around the initial release time that I got mine? I'm going to assume I have V1...I did take it out to inspect and generally, found no real issue with the toy overall though. At least not in the few minutes I examined it when it arrived. I am pretty sure Toyfreakz only got a shipment of V2. |
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Post by johnmc on Jul 9, 2016 6:36:23 GMT -5
I wonder if Miracle will consider making a new Vehicle Voltron to go along with the upcoming Ultimate EX 16 inch Lion Voltron. I hope they'll consider it.
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Post by MegaPrime316 on Jul 9, 2016 18:40:56 GMT -5
I.m not even sure if these guys are still around anymore, last update on facebook was august 2015...
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Post by faelon on Jul 9, 2016 21:15:00 GMT -5
I thought they were more doing design work for others these days? Didn't they have a hand in some other upcoming piece from a better known manufacturer?
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Post by repairtechjon on Jan 1, 2017 11:41:03 GMT -5
I wonder if Miracle will consider making a new Vehicle Voltron to go along with the upcoming Ultimate EX 16 inch Lion Voltron. I hope they'll consider it. Heh. I was just thinking, that looking at how the Voltron craze is in full upswing now, and Toynami, and Bandai are releasing their flagship toys now, that basically, Miracle just jumped the gun timing wise. This thread is 5 years long! What would have happened if they had waited, and tried putting the VV MA-01 to market now? There likely would be more interest, and $$$ now, as thousands of nostalgic collectors are now re-awakening to Voltron, with several active Facebook groups, the new website, Dreamworks involvement, etc etc. Would more time and money have been spent on developement, licensing, manufacturing, advertising?? We pretty much know Miracle developed the VV toy to satisfy a bigger toy company, it fell through somehow, wasn't up to snuff, but they went ahead and put it out on their own anyway, so what would have happend, and how good would the toy be if developed and revised with legit support? I'd love to see it! Anyways, just puttering around on New Years Day, looking at where the whole Voltron scene has risen to today. Onward! |
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Post by nakedmagnus on Mar 2, 2017 19:10:35 GMT -5
I have two version 2 vehicle voltrons and have been thinking about selling one of them. Just running out of space at home. Are any of you still experiencing problems selling Vehicle Voltron on ebay? Is ebay taking down the auctions?
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Post by framigoiou on Mar 21, 2017 17:18:50 GMT -5
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Post by mrclean08 on Mar 22, 2017 1:22:20 GMT -5
Wow! Seeing pics of this again brings back both good and bad memories of this figure. Overall this was a good figure; however, the experience that ToyFreaks put many of us through was mostly the bad memories associated with it. That being said, if Bandai ever decides to produce a SOC Vehicle Voltron/Dairugger XV, I can see present values for this figure plummeting. I will still be keeping mine regardless just because I'm a fan of Dairugger.  |
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Post by ssorcam on Mar 22, 2017 13:48:08 GMT -5
Nice pics!
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Post by faelon on Mar 22, 2017 14:14:05 GMT -5
I'm not sure how much lower prices can actually go. If I remember rightly MSRP was ~$225? I found mine (V2) Used but unopened sealed in factory packaging for $90. Although it does seem to be trending upwards again.
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Post by Philo Beddoe on Mar 24, 2017 21:31:06 GMT -5
$90 used is a great price. I had no idea they went down that low. Kinda stopped paying attention when members were talking about Ebay taking down auctions for this thing/ fake cease and desist threats, etc.
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Post by cupnoodles on Mar 25, 2017 19:17:48 GMT -5
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Post by faelon on Mar 25, 2017 21:20:21 GMT -5
E-Bay is in the right on this most likely. We the general public tend to confuse a number of things into one broad "infringement" basket. The case you have there is specifically Patent Infringement. For Patent Infringement you generally have to go after the source, not the intermediary seller. No merchant nor a sales platform such as E-Bay has the wherewithal to evaluate Patent claims. If your Patent is getting infringed, you get an injunction and then submit that to the service such as E-Bay. This is rather basic. It takes a Federal Court to decide. In fact I have never heard of a "Patent Takedown Notice" at least not before or until there is at least a court action. Once again Patents go after the producers. They don't have much direct weight with merchants. Another common one is Copyright Infringement. This one gets the most press but for the wrong reasons. Some Copyright Takedowns are ridiculously easy because the US DMCA Laws specify that the data or service host must err on the side of caution in a dispute and takedown the materials before anything is proven. They do this because it grants them "Safe Harbor" status as a data host or passthrough. This is almost 100% specific to digital media. Movies, music etc. Youtube videos is the classic one. That automatic takedown does not apply to anything else. For everything else you need some degree of compelling proof. How hard or easy that is will depend on the specifics. Is it obvious to the naked eye? etc. The final one is Trademark Infringement. That one is the easiest to fight and E-Bay will instantly take down any such they are alerted to. You have a Registered Trademark. Basically You hold Title to the Trademark, be it name or design and you have the paperwork to prove it. if you say something is using your Trademark without your permission, there is no further proof needed. Of the three Patent Infringement is the hardest to prove as it takes a Federal Court. The upside is once proven it pays out very highly. Trademark Infringement is the easiest to prove, but there is no payout beyond the happy feeling of seizing and landfilling infringing goods. Technically the MMC Vehicle Voltron is probably Copyright and Trademark infringement. Copyright because as we all know, it is somebody elses unlicensed design. Dairuger XV. Trademark because they printed Voltron on the box, and Voltron is a registered Trademark of WEP. if they had just called it MMC Vehicle Force Robo it would only have been a hard to prove Copyright issue. |
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Post by xtrlowz75 on Mar 29, 2017 21:37:18 GMT -5
Yep, I've Just had my listing stopped and deleted. Not only was I messaged by eBay for a listing violation, but I got an additional message from an attorney from Brand Protection Services, LLC. She informed me listing my Miracle Voltron on eBay, is an infingment violation to World Events Productions/WEP, and it can no longer be sold on the US eBay. She said Miracle was not licensed to produce the toy, therefor it is a counterfeit or bootleg item. Even though they're still being sold out of the Italian eBay. Plus the Italian sellers aren't listing it as a Miracle Productions. Just a diecast Voltron. So we can list it still, or get away with listing it possibly, but just as a Diecast Voltron. I wouldn't put pictures of the box or list it as Miracle Productions either if you try. But I'm sure not for awhile, maybe in 5 years haha. The one thing is, now with this happening, it will certainly push the value up on it. Its the best counterfeit or bootleg Voltron I've ever owned haha.
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Post by nakedmagnus on May 24, 2017 22:41:45 GMT -5
Bummer. I have an extra one as well I would like to sell. Ebay is such a convenient way to do such a thing. Are there any alternative and safe ways to sell it online?
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