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Post by Gettershadow on Sept 21, 2012 15:40:54 GMT -5
Are those Willohio's stickers maybe?
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Post by Gettershadow on Sept 21, 2012 15:44:06 GMT -5
are those "tall feet"? ..I cant tell.
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Post by Gettershadow on Sept 21, 2012 15:44:47 GMT -5
He claims "1976"..
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Post by Gettershadow on Sept 21, 2012 15:47:50 GMT -5
I think my old one said the same thing but did not come with a strap. 1976?.. Frankenbot maybe?
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Post by luclin999 on Sept 21, 2012 15:50:17 GMT -5
This is a straight up 2nd ed.
The clip indents in the arm, along with the feet and head give it away.
Either the toy is in the wrong box (happens a lot, people can buy the toy and box separately) or Mattel just stuck a 2nd ed in a 1st box to use up the old box stock.
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Post by Gettershadow on Sept 21, 2012 15:52:57 GMT -5
but what about that sticker ?? are those repros?
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Post by luclin999 on Sept 21, 2012 15:58:14 GMT -5
Based on how beaten up they are.. I doubt it.
That being said, there is no reason all that Mattel couldn't have stuck the 1st gen decal set in with a 2nd gen figure.
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Post by luclin999 on Sept 21, 2012 16:11:10 GMT -5
are those "tall feet"? ..I cant tell. Compare the feet in that picture to the 1st gen in my "$50 Dragun" thread. Mine are the shorter 1st gen, the ones in these photos are the taller ones based on the Mazinger mold. The 1st gen feet are shorter (my Dragun is about a half inch shorter than my Mazinga) and have a small raised lip around the top of the foot which the 2nd-4th gen versions are lacking. |
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Post by Gettershadow on Sept 21, 2012 17:44:15 GMT -5
Based on how beaten up they are.. I doubt it. That being said, there is no reason all that Mattel couldn't have stuck the 1st gen decal set in with a 2nd gen figure. I guess thats what they did with mine and from what I remeber I think they stuck a left over 1st gen head on mine too.. the mold of the first gen looks alot more "right" to me based on what I was used to. |
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Post by 1oldrobot on Sept 21, 2012 22:24:39 GMT -5
is the head any different? i thought only the paint would be a variation.
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Post by luclin999 on Sept 21, 2012 23:40:06 GMT -5
The 1st gen head is a bit softer than the one on the following versions and seems a bit ... shorter as well.
Almost like the neck is longer on the later ones.
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Post by Gettershadow on Sept 21, 2012 23:42:52 GMT -5
is the head any different? i thought only the paint would be a variation. At first glance they seem the same but if you look closely, the 1st gen has a more squat, cat-like muzzle.. I remember that quite clearly from my childhood. I look at a 2nd gen head and I say "yeah thats it".. then I look at a 1st gen head and I go "No, that was it right there.." Its a better looking face. More "Oriental Dragon" looking.. the 2nd gen head is good looking too, it just doesnt really "look right" to me though.. like something is missing. The 2nd gen face looks flatter and taller somehow. |
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Post by luclin999 on Sept 21, 2012 23:55:37 GMT -5
It still looks to me like the neck is longer/larger on the later versions. 1st ed.  4th ed.  |
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Post by Gettershadow on Sept 22, 2012 0:35:28 GMT -5
yeah a little bit, but check out the profile.. the 1st ed has a muzzle like a cat or something
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Post by luclin999 on Sept 22, 2012 1:54:23 GMT -5
Here is a side shot of the 4th ed. Dragun (left) and the Popy Getter Dragon/Mattel 1st ed. (right)  Even accepting the fact that the Popy figure is standing about a half inch further from the camera, it appears that the Mattel head is larger overall with a taller neck. And when I measure the heads in the image the Popy head shows to be 5% smaller than the Mattel. That being said, personally I don't perceive that much of a "muzzle" on either figure. Also, this picture shows yet another difference in the two as well... The screw holes in the legs are different between them. |
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Post by 1oldrobot on Sept 22, 2012 2:43:37 GMT -5
yeah, almost an anti-muzzle design. ive got 3 versions of him and am looking. the head is slightly smaller, but looks like the same sculpt. its possible its a resculpt using the same dimensions, which is most likely. or they made a copy of the original and the materials used shrank some, like jugarama and the south american boots. i doubt popy would have used the latter method, considering their super high quality control and perfectionist tendencies.
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Post by thatbatmanguy on Sept 22, 2012 10:49:09 GMT -5
That side profile is a great shot. It's easy to see the difference in the top of the upper arms and the shape of the entire torso. Thanks for posting the pic.
Bob
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Post by Gettershadow on Sept 22, 2012 11:44:04 GMT -5
the smaller one looks more cat-like to me.. by muzzle I mean that nose, Ive seen other pics of that 1 st gen head and it looked like it had more of a muzzle on it to me.. maybe Im wrong. Look at the back proflie of that head..spikes look different.
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Post by Gettershadow on Sept 22, 2012 11:48:21 GMT -5
the smaller one looks more cat-like to me.. by muzzle I mean that nose, Ive seen other pics of that 1 st gen head and it looked like it had more of a muzzle on it to me.. maybe Im wrong. Look at the back proflie of that head..spikes look different. That being said, your Popy seems to have his head turned a little to the left.. see how you can see less "eye" on him from this angle? |
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Post by luclin999 on Sept 22, 2012 14:11:35 GMT -5
The side profile picture above is not of my toy. It is a picture I pulled from the CollectionDX site which was comparing the two versions in a review.
(Note the CollectionDX logo down in the lower right corner of the shot)
I do wonder why Mattel chose to re-use the Mazinga upper arms and feet on the lower leg molds for the later release Dragun toys. These don't seem to be cost cutting changes such as the ones implemented with Gaiking and Daimos were from their original versions as the ones here really only affect the aesthetics of the figure.
Did the factory in Japan lose or damage the original ones?
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