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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2013 14:08:01 GMT -5
Those are questions that only Bandai Japan can answer.
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Post by KingboyD on Mar 1, 2013 14:20:13 GMT -5
I don't think Baron is saying this will be as tall as the vintage toys. The vintage ST toys were only 5 or 6 inches tall. I think he just means comparatively within the toy lines. For example, the Popy ST toys were all roughly the same size, so the SOC versions will also be roughly the same size as the other standard SOC toys (i.e., matched to GX-01). I don't know how true that statement is, though. For example, why was Xabungle made so small in the SOC version? (Although Xabungle was not historically made by Popy, it was Takatoku, but still there were standard sized ones and a larger one.)
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Post by B- on Mar 1, 2013 15:44:45 GMT -5
You are saying is that bandai made it small because the GA-79 was small? Are they honoring the old toy or making a modern SOC of the character Danguard A? Because if what they are is making a modern SOC, they did not have to make it the same size as the old Godaikin. They didn't make the first SOC as small as the old Chogokin, so why do it now? EXACTLY KINGBOY! I wrote this before I saw your post,same reply really but with added stuff... Not AS small as the old chogokin BUT characteristically small as the old gokin.Im comparing vintage to now.Im not saying they are trying to make it the exact same size as the old one.Like certain characters were smaller than others back then.And they are keeping with the old way of sizes.Some robots smallish,others larger.Danguard fits in with teh smaller size ones as Ive stated,Gaiking,Mazinger,Dragon etc. BTW SRC has nothing to do with it,there are only a handfull of super robots in the SRC line anyhow.All the classic robots in SRC have already been made as SOC,SRC doesnt start where SOC left off,its still its own line,just forget SRC for a minute.This is ALL within the SOC line. Vintagely Voltes was a big Godaiken size,Danguard was a small size and never was a big robot toy.Certain ones were only made in a small size,so this is a nod to the MAIN vintage size ratios among the robots. |
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Post by KingboyD on Mar 1, 2013 16:00:54 GMT -5
To play devil's advocate, here are a few counter points:
Although there was a deluxe Voltes and Combattler, there were also standard sized versions of these robots. Not sure if we can say one came before the other. Maybe they came at the same time? Not sure though.
Also, consider Daitarn. This was made in a large SOC scale, but the vintage toys were never that large. The deluxe Daitarn was roughly the same size as the deluxe Dangard, while the standard sized ones were also of similar size.
Dancougar is not really that big either in the vintage deluxe form. Neither is Daimos, but in this case, isn't the SOC about mid-sized comparatively for this line? (I don't own it so I'm not sure.)
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Post by TheMazingerZ on Mar 1, 2013 16:51:21 GMT -5
I tend to go with KingboyD's theory myself. I know nothing about what Bandai does, but I would not put my hands in the fire with any theory of them honoring the old toys or anything like that. I tend to lean towards a monetary purpose instead. Unless I'm proven wrong with the next SOC after Danguard, I would say that Bandai is moving away from big combiners altogether in order to save money on production costs. They will still charge about the same for the SOCs, but they will cost them less to make as they will be smaller. That's what my gut tells me.  }D |
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Post by Robot Lover/Fighter on Mar 1, 2013 20:05:25 GMT -5
It's all about market affordability, Got to get the right mix so Bandai sells it all...  |
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Post by B- on Mar 1, 2013 22:17:47 GMT -5
Yes Kingboy I wrote that yes there were smaller ones {ST size} of the big combiners {DX size}BUT no bigger ones of the certain smaller .This has remained so presently,but the larger SOCs dont have st size now becuase teh Dx size were teh popular versions of those so they chose to go with the larger size.
Indeed I believe same goes when they choose sizes today,ofcourse Bandai respects the older line,its prevelant in many SOCs,even the GX-31V is called respect for Volt in Box.Also
Daitarn was a Clover toy,not a popy toy so the SOC version was just an arbitrary decision.Also Daitarn wasnt in the Shogun line.Where the others were.
Also I really doubt Bandai is trying to save money by reducing robot size they have enough of it.If that was so they wouldnt have done the Mazinger DX or even continue with the SOC line at all and just make SRC.But again as TMZ stated we will see ..
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Post by droutmaster on Mar 2, 2013 15:51:26 GMT -5
Perhaps is because the figure is not so complex in transformation they decided to make it small?. If you think about it, so far all that are combiners or those that transform have a level of complexity in transformation wich in turn are bigger than your standard SoC except to a certain few depending on there design. But Danguard Ace compare to the others his not that complex.
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Post by goldorak on Mar 10, 2013 12:07:45 GMT -5
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Post by B- on Mar 10, 2013 18:22:46 GMT -5
HMMM,did Bandai not get the liscence for this SOC?They are calling it Danguard-A instead of Danguard-Ace,just like Yamato did.
This slight name change is very present in CMs toys also if youve noticed.
GAKEEN is called GA-KEEN,
Gyakutenoh is Gyakuten-Oh,
Baratack is called Barattack,
GoShogun is Goshogun
Sankanoh is Sankan-Oh,
etc etc.A small fix to the name goes unnoticed and they can then make the product without official liscensing I beleieve.I wonder if Bandai did this here with Danguard?
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Post by Chen on Mar 10, 2013 18:58:47 GMT -5
It's just the way it was named and how it get's translated into English. It's technically Danguard-A but pronounced Danguard-"eso" which just works out to Danguard-Ace.
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Post by B- on Mar 10, 2013 19:12:16 GMT -5
It's just the way it was named and how it get's translated into English. It's technically Danguard-A but pronounced Danguard-"eso" which just works out to Danguard-Ace. Oh cool thanks for that Chen.It also works considering the word Ace,meaning to perform with distinction,like a War Ace pilot etc.Probably another reason why they chose here to use Ace also it fits!. |
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Post by Chen on Mar 10, 2013 19:25:27 GMT -5
Yeah it's just the translation that get's a little wonky sometimes. Combattler is really Com-Battler since each machine is the Battle Jet or Battle Tank etc. So technically it should be Com-Battler for COMbined-Battle machines but really it's fine either way.
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Post by cupnoodles on Mar 10, 2013 21:40:42 GMT -5
What did the Yamato Danguard originally sell for?
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Post by TheMazingerZ on Mar 11, 2013 0:16:24 GMT -5
Is that the same prototype from last year? It looks nicer for some reason. }D |
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Post by TheMazingerZ on Mar 11, 2013 0:22:25 GMT -5
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Post by cupnoodles on Mar 11, 2013 1:17:51 GMT -5
Thank you TMZ.
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Post by kento74 on Mar 23, 2013 7:50:28 GMT -5
Release Date: July 2013 Price: 12,600 Yen Height: 19 cm     |
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Post by Gold on Mar 23, 2013 8:22:59 GMT -5
Niiiiiice. At least the diecast didn't get toned down much. Still. Hard to believe it's shorter than the Popy version. :/
Gold
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Post by Chen on Mar 23, 2013 8:52:54 GMT -5
Nice! I'm of two minds about this. Yeah I wish it was larger but I do own the Yamato version so I have that covered. But just the look and details are amazing, decent amount of diecast and the price?  It's way cheaper then I thought. The engineering still looks like it's SOC level and it looks like it will display well with both SOC's and SRC's. Pre-ordered as soon as I can. |
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