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Post by zambot3 on Jul 18, 2014 13:11:36 GMT -5
Was that combattler really mint in mint box? Did the original jumbos come with plastic? I always thought plastic was sometimes added by a seller on to make the jumbo look newer. Yes that price was huge yet a combattler without accessories and antenna (perfect for display for small time collectors) went for only 43,000 yen. I don't think you are going to get some pieces under two thousand these days loose. But pieces like Getter one and two, all the getter Gs, Tetsujin 28, grendizer are still pretty affordable if you are patient and you don't mind condition. My strategy is to try and get one a year. Unfortunately, looking at yhj, you are tempted to bid on everything. This was posted near 15 years ago. sixsite.com/jumboland/whatsrare.htmlLooks like what is considered hard to get has changed.
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Post by MazinKaiserSKL666 on Jul 18, 2014 13:42:15 GMT -5
I've been wondering the same. Look at the Spazers.... Lately I've been very seriously thinking of changing my collecting intrests, or at least my wish list. Small time collectors like myself are getting to the point that we don't stand a chance unless we find a good payment plan! Up until lately I was considering building another display case to expand my collection out.... Now I'm thinking of filling the few spaces I have left and calling it done enough. BLASPHEMY!!! Don't give up. This is the thrill of the hunt and hobby for me. If these were abundant and or affordable it wouldn't be as fun or rewarding. Although I collect many different things other than toys and many different types of toy lines it's no coincidence that some of my favorite pieces are Jumbos. Mostly due to the time and effort I had to put into getting what I want and for the price I feel is fair. For example 2 of my favorite Jumbos are T-28 and Sunvulcan. These two were on my must have list for the last 6 or 7 years. But I had a price in mind that I'd pay and a minimum condition expectation. After 5 or so years of bidding against people with bigger bank accounts and different opinions of these items value and losing many an auction I've been able to acquire each and for marginally less dough than I had limited myself to. There is a feeling of gratification and satisfaction that accompanies the ownership of them now. And everytime I pick them up I not only admire their aesthetic beauty but I also relive the thrill I had in finding this specimen and the protracted time it took to pin it down and make it mine. I've still got plenty more Jumbos on my gotta have list and a dollar figure in mind that I'll pay for each. And I will get them. And will get them for those prices...Eventually.... I'm a patient man! Just because you're fighting against people with bigger bank accounts sometimes and maybe they just want that they want and don't care what they pay for it doesnt mean you won't get what you want. Let them pay crazy money and just be patient. Once those individuals have theirs one will one along and you'll get it at the right number. The fight and the hunt is just gravy for me.
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Post by Mr. Ginrai on Jul 18, 2014 16:56:43 GMT -5
I agree with what you said, but like Tom said, maybe a refocus is in order. Doesn't mean you have to sell everything or stop looking for undiscovered rarities, but if you are getting priced out of the market you have to be a man and make some change.
Case in point: an incomplete (I believe) jumbo spazer with box just sold for $25k on YJ.
I know a close friend that has a perfect one and just few months ago, we were with several people and estimated his at $25-30k. Now his is easily beyond that. I know if he had to think about spending that much for it now, it would be very difficult.
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Post by bowhntr66 on Jul 18, 2014 18:45:21 GMT -5
I agree with what you said, but like Tom said, maybe a refocus is in order. Doesn't mean you have to sell everything or stop looking for undiscovered rarities, but if you are getting priced out of the market you have to be a man and make some change. Case in point: an incomplete (I believe) jumbo spazer with box just sold for $25k on YJ. I know a close friend that has a perfect one and just few months ago, we were with several people and estimated his at $25-30k. Now his is easily beyond that. I know if he had to think about spending that much for it now, it would be very difficult. Exactly. Doesn't mean I'll stop looking for my Poseidon, my Mazinkaizer, my T-28, my Getter1, I've just resigned myself to the fact that I may never acquire them. In the meantime, I'll focus on accessorizing the ones I do have, fill in around them with pilots, vinyls, model kits, etc. For example, I have a fairly bare shelf for Godzilla. On it is the Toho Godzilla, the Jakks Pacific Godzilla, Rodan, and a couple of Godzilla autographed comics. On my wish list was Jumbosaurous. Instead, I've been thinking of adding a 12" Zilla JR, maybe a Mothra Larvae.... Who knows, maybe I'll trade off a few of my less liked items for something I'm really wanting, or find someone wanting to part with one I want that will except an installment plan. All I know is, parting with $1200 for a loose jumbo, or even $800, just keeps getting harder... If you can find one for that!
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Post by joweone on Jul 18, 2014 21:19:52 GMT -5
Was that combattler really mint in mint box? Did the original jumbos come with plastic? I always thought plastic was sometimes added by a seller on to make the jumbo look newer. Yes that price was huge yet a combattler without accessories and antenna (perfect for display for small time collectors) went for only 43,000 yen. I don't think you are going to get some pieces under two thousand these days loose. But pieces like Getter one and two, all the getter Gs, Tetsujin 28, grendizer are still pretty affordable if you are patient and you don't mind condition. My strategy is to try and get one a year. Unfortunately, looking at yhj, you are tempted to bid on everything. This was posted near 15 years ago. sixsite.com/jumboland/whatsrare.htmlLooks like what is considered hard to get has changed. That list of 10 hardest is even harder now, the ones you see frequently are fake villains. Robot factory pieces have become harder and harder to get with their rise in popularity.The late release JMs are ever popular now and command high prices but I wouldn't say they are rarer. The list 10 second easiest was definitely more so at that time, a few have moved into a higher bracket from interest but are still quite available. Easy to get is more of a "money is no option" kind of thing,anything can be priced astronomically and seem out of reach but some of those pieces you just plain don't see. I think seeing some pieces sit on YJp for a ridiculous amount of money (way overpriced) makes them seem more available when they really aren't. That being said that list of 10 easiest is almost just as easy 15 years later, no interest in some of the characters and the prices haven't gone up either ,while some of them have increased quite a bit and are a wee bit harder to find. I feel like I had my choice of Nakajima Jms 10 years ago and got excellent boxed specimens for a great price.I definitely remember seeing a lot of the guys off the lists with a frequency you'd expect from the list and order they appear. Just think of the frequency some of these have been showing up since this thread started, definitely out there and changing hands, just fetching a premium. I agree its hard not to just bid up everything and max out some credit cards.I find myself in the try to score 1 a year group as well, unless I can snag a deal , but a wife and 2 kids makes that tuff. The amount of resources available to fix up beater JMs is amazing these days, one can definitely turn a mess into a magnificent looking piece. I wonder how many more collectors there are now compared to 5, 10, 15, 20 years ago?
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Post by zambot3 on Jul 18, 2014 23:28:18 GMT -5
Interesting. For me, in the past year I have seen more ultraman Leos, daikumaryu, getter 3, robocon and the spazer than godsigma or daidenjin. The article also mentions Leopardon, Sun Vulcan, voltes V almost making the hard to find list. I've seen more of those as well. As a matter of fact, I would say the Voltes is pretty common if you want to pay the price. I would put those on par in regards to rarity w any of the other robot factory jumbos including daltanious, battle fever and gordian.
Also In 15 years, the number of sellers and buyers on the internet have increased. With an increase in sellers, more items will show up including ones that were thought of as being rare. Also with more buyers, item prices have increased as well. That is why I don't know why the daidenjin and godsigma isn't showing up.
I know the yutaka jumbo isn't rare but seeing it sell for $450 MIB is pretty amazing because I remember seeing those go for much less years,ago.
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Post by joweone on Jul 19, 2014 8:23:50 GMT -5
Yeah 450 for Yutaka Getter is slowly creeping up( scored mine for 200 10+ years ago) I saw a lot of the robot factory and later JMs going for 4-600 back then.Giant Gorg is slowly climbing as well. Fiverobo seems to sit at same price not moving at all. Even Popy reideen and dragon are slow climbers as well,Im guessing because of readily available Shoguns for them. I'd still love a box for my popy reideen and dragun. I wish I could find an Ultraman Leo that wouldn't destroy my pockets,he and the villains have been on my hot list for so long.Like a fool I passed so many opportunities for the late model Jms when I had the chance to score them cheap holding out for these guys.
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Post by zambot3 on Jul 19, 2014 11:41:38 GMT -5
Yes. I think many of us are kicking ourselves for not buying the jumbos when we had a chance. I used to think a boxed godsigma going for $4000 was expensive. This was about 3 years ago.
The five robo stays the same price and not popular. I'm guessing because it is made out of hard plastic. It also doesn't display too well w other jumbos. It's basically a larger version of the DX toy without the combining. Lots of the DX sentai robots in that era featured sounds and light up features not unlike five robo jumbo at has a light up gimmick.
One jumbo I kick myself for not getting is Dubine. It was everywhere at one time and now I haven't seen one in awhile.
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Post by devoidofemotions on Jul 25, 2014 5:29:55 GMT -5
Yes. I think many of us are kicking ourselves for not buying the jumbos when we had a chance. I used to think a boxed godsigma going for $4000 was expensive. This was about 3 years ago. The five robo stays the same price and not popular. I'm guessing because it is made out of hard plastic. It also doesn't display too well w other jumbos. It's basically a larger version of the DX toy without the combining. Lots of the DX sentai robots in that era featured sounds and light up features not unlike five robo jumbo at has a light up gimmick. One jumbo I kick myself for not getting is Dubine. It was everywhere at one time and now I haven't seen one in awhile. I still remember i sold MIB complete grendizers getters and gettas for US$500-$800 back then and celebrated for $100-200 profits. Now i look very stupid lol... this year 2014 have seen a sharp increase in jumbo prices, almost every MIB jumbos seems to have potential to break the 1m yen mark.. i am just shock who are the buyers? best doe
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Post by devoidofemotions on Aug 27, 2014 6:40:51 GMT -5
Hi all did you guys read about the superman comic book that auction off on ebay for US$3.2million? it breaks all time ebay high.... do you think JUMBO will one day reach this league?
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Post by zambot3 on Aug 31, 2014 8:57:13 GMT -5
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Post by joweone on Aug 31, 2014 9:48:24 GMT -5
For Getter 3 I didn't feel that was too expensive.With the way things have been trending I would have imagined higher. Definitely seems more like a price from a few years back to me. I kind of expected to see 6k on him even incomplete and box less. Looks as though I'm gonna have to thin my collection and redirect focus if I am to acquire the JMs I want..
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Post by bowhntr66 on Aug 31, 2014 10:10:26 GMT -5
For Getter 3 I didn't feel that was too expensive.With the way things have been trending I would have imagined higher. Definitely seems more like a price from a few years back to me. I kind of expected to see 6k on him even incomplete and box less. Looks as though I'm gonna have to thin my collection and redirect focus if I am to acquire the JMs I want.. I agree 100% Joweone! I seriously thought Getter3 was going to hit 400000¥ at least! Thin you'r collection.......?
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Post by zambot3 on Aug 31, 2014 12:28:58 GMT -5
Yeah. I'm basing this on seeing a clean complete one with both missiles and launchers without a box for 400,000 yen about 3-4 months ago. I think that seller may have priced it too high starting at that price. This one looks like it needs some work but I guess whoever got it, will now not have to worry about getting the little guy any longer. I think he's one of the essential jumbos to get for any collection. if you own getter 1 and 2 which are relatively easy gets, your display won't look complete without getter 3.
How rare is this guy compared to the ones we've seen recently for crazy prices?
A complete Daitetsujin 17 w box just went for the about the same price.
Is that the same MIb voltes V that keeps showing up? Are people,putting in high bids and just not paying? It went for a ton again.
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Post by truecrud on Sept 1, 2014 1:04:21 GMT -5
Maybe it's me but I expected the Mach Baron that was on ebay to go higher than it did.
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Post by zambot3 on Sept 3, 2014 10:01:08 GMT -5
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Post by bowhntr66 on Sept 3, 2014 14:27:04 GMT -5
531,000¥ for a loose Dangard with a crushed box..... Now we know.....
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Post by zambot3 on Sept 8, 2014 1:03:21 GMT -5
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Post by joweone on Sept 8, 2014 8:52:40 GMT -5
Seems high to me.
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Post by devoidofemotions on Sept 8, 2014 19:23:10 GMT -5
The price seems crazy to me...
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