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Post by rodman75 on May 6, 2014 14:39:41 GMT -5
Hello all,
It's been a while since I've contributed to the RJ forum but I'm still in the hobby (at least for now).
My eyes almost popped out of my head when I was doing my daily casual perusal of YJA when low and behold, I came across my #1 Holy Grail JM; Godsigma! My excitement soon turned to disappointment when upon a closer look, I noticed that one of the horns was missing. Sure, it was an easy fix and repro's are certainly common but my collecting rule is that I never want a reproduction part. I don't mind a sticker or paint refreshing or a repro fist/missile but part that has been broken off is out of the question for me.
I stopped watching the auction at about 600,000yen. Does anyone know the final close out price? My only hope is that the closet Godsigma owners will see the auction and be inspired to sell.
Is everyone in agreement that jumbo prices are really starting to skyrocket? My dear friend DOE has suggested this for a long time and I was in denial, but I think JM's are on another trend upwards.
Thoughts?
Best,
Rodman75
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Post by hocuspocus on May 6, 2014 15:24:08 GMT -5
641,000 ¥
very strange....
From 100,000 ¥ jumped to 600,000 ¥
jumbo loose.. Missing 2-piece nut and horns..
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Post by zambot3 on May 6, 2014 15:59:43 GMT -5
Simple supply and demand. Have not seen a Godsigma on any auction site for at least a couple of years. Even a dirty one one missing a horn, 2 piece nut, sword and box is worth a lot to someone. You had the Gordian w missing cockpit window, chipped paint on silver parts that went for a lot and I've seen 5 of those sold the past year. But there is hope, seen at least 5 daltanious robots the last one w box going for about 530,000 yen, a fair price in my opinion. So just wait it out till you find the price you want to pay.
If a godsigma goes for that much, I wonder what a daidenjin will go for.
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Post by mikedeco on May 6, 2014 16:11:15 GMT -5
Once again I was surprised by this ending price. It's true that Godsigma is not showing up that much, but a loose one, broken and with some missing parts, for that price, that's just ridiculous.
The big trend around the Robot Factory line is really something weird. A few years back, you could pick most of them for a decent price and now it's just madness. Well, it's maybe madness for me but probably nothing for some new players.
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Post by joweone on May 6, 2014 16:31:00 GMT -5
Following the current trends I think it's safe to say I won't be completing the robot factory line.I definitely see the rise in prices mainly amongst robot factory and some of the JMs from the end of the line.80s revival.Aside from a few rare pieces the earlier stuff in average condition seems to be at a more stable price range (there are definitely some exceptions) that hasn't grown as extreme as the later manufactured JMs.
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Post by devoidofemotions on May 6, 2014 18:42:19 GMT -5
Hi all, at least this crazy price of godsigma have done something good. He brings out bros and buddies that are busy in their personal life and get together here and let me know that bros are doing good and still in this hobby  As for the godsigma, the bidding is a bit weird is a direct jump to 641,000 yen from 100,000+ yen. My guess is 2 possibilities: 1) shill bidding gone misfired, the shill bidder expect someone to outbid him but instead the shill bidder won, and the godsigma might be relisted. 2) we are bidding against the big houses like mandarake, I have seen them very active at YJP and some of the pieces that I am pretty sure was listed in YJP ends up at their store front for double the price. nowadays hardly have good deals at their store, out to kill. best doe |
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Post by bowhntr66 on May 6, 2014 20:11:17 GMT -5
Hi all, at least this crazy price of godsigma have done something good. He brings out bros and buddies that are busy in their personal life and get together here and let me know that bros are doing good and still in this hobby As for the godsigma, the bidding is a bit weird is a direct jump to 641,000 yen from 100,000+ yen. My guess is 2 possibilities: 1) shill bidding gone misfired, the shill bidder expect someone to outbid him but instead the shill bidder won, and the godsigma might be relisted. 2) we are bidding against the big houses like mandarake, I have seen them very active at YJP and some of the pieces that I am pretty sure was listed in YJP ends up at their store front for double the price. nowadays hardly have good deals at their store, out to kill. best doe I was kind of thinking the first one doe. I've been expecting to see it relisted. |
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Post by zambot3 on May 6, 2014 21:49:42 GMT -5
I don't think it is shill bidding since it looks like both names listed has lots of feedback.
This crazy pricing of Jumbos is real. People are paying massive amounts of money for stuff right now. Whether or not this will last who knows. If you notice, even Mandarake doesn't have anything in stock. i looked at their auction guides and they don't have any jumbos.
I remember how we all were surprised when someone paid over $3500 for a Gordian in Ebay about a year ago. Now that price isn't so out of whack as we thought.
This is probably a trend and things will eventually go down but then again, maybe not.
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Post by devoidofemotions on May 6, 2014 21:57:46 GMT -5
I don't think it is shill bidding since it looks like both names listed has lots of feedback. This crazy pricing of Jumbos is real. People are paying massive amounts of money for stuff right now. Whether or not this will last who knows. If you notice, even Mandarake doesn't have anything in stock. i looked at their auction guides and they don't have any jumbos. I remember how we all were surprised when someone paid over $3500 for a Gordian in Ebay about a year ago. Now that price isn't so out of whack as we thought. This is probably a trend and things will eventually go down but then again, maybe not. and IMHO, that 3500 Gordian has set the bar for RF jumbos pricing since then. best doe |
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Post by repairtechjon on May 6, 2014 23:35:08 GMT -5
Stupid money for an imperfect toy, but just like some of you, I blew it off getting close to a grand, and surprised at the willingness to go over six thousand dollars to get that. You want to laugh? Read this thread and brog from 2009 on TBDX. toyboxdx.com/brog/?p=667 We were shaking our heads in dismay then, at the previously unheard of $3300 or more, when a couple Godsigmas came on market that year, and in 2007, 2008, and just kept getting hotter. I've always been a Godsigma collector, and have almost everything else for the character, but that RF Jumbo eludes me. I'm wondering what a KO "King Of The King" would go for nowadays? I'm hoping still not much more than $1100 |
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Post by truecrud on May 6, 2014 23:41:08 GMT -5
All I know is that there are only two jumbos left that I truly want to buy and for me they would have to be in almost perfect condition possibly with boxes to break the high 3 digits or into the 4 digits. Sure there are jumbos that I wish I could get but I am realistic about my chances of obtaining them, especially at a reasonable price, and by reasonable I mean less than the price of a good used car. As I was forced to sell almost all of my meager (but loved) collection of 14 or so jumbos I can't look at collecting the same way I did before. I have a strict (well pretty strict) no copies rule. If I have one version of a jumbo I will not buy another variation no matter how much I want it, with the one exception being a Mattel Gaiking and the uni5 Gaiking. I have a whopping two popy jumbos (Grendizer and a headless Getter Liger)the others are Mattel jumbos modified to look like popy jumbos. I love my jumbos and would love to expand my collection but the ridiculous prices that sellers are demanding and people are willing to beggar themselves for puts this hobby on the razors edge between sanity and insanity to the point were people will soon be tracking down jumbos and breaking into peoples houses to steal them. OK that may be a bit of an over exaggeration but $6000 for a broken example of a toy is almost as crazy. I love coming on this site and looking at all the amazing collections of my favorite toys in the world, and I come here almost everyday hoping that someone has a new acquisition for me to look at because I know I will never see most of these jumbos in real life. Thank you all for sharing with all of us. All that being said, may we all enjoy our jumbos and best of luck to all those searching for their personal grails. I hope you get them.
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Post by joweone on May 6, 2014 23:58:07 GMT -5
Given what we've sen lately I expected 5k from godsigma , not 6.5k . But Godsigma and Daidenjin haven't been across the block as frequent as the others lately. A boxed and good condition of either is going to fetch a ridiculous price at this rate. I'm kicking myself for not biting on what seemed much more common place 10 years ago..
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Post by zambot3 on May 7, 2014 0:52:36 GMT -5
Last godsigma I remember was a boxed one from Australia a couple of years ago that went for $4000. I thought that was pricy but would pay that in a sec now. But if you look, it isn't just RF. Even the jumbos like Dangard Ace or Godmars have not been under $3000 for loose imperfect specimens. You can't get a loose voltes v for under $4500.
Jumbos are a little weird where you don't see a big discrepancy in price with or without a box. Most collectors seem to want to get them for display and the box doesn't seem to matter as much. I saw a battle fever with box just go for 234000 yen. Is that considered expensive? Could be the last RF you can get under $4000.
I really wonder how many collectors are out there. Maybe someone should do a mini jumbo machinder convention.
And rodman, I'm like you. I'm not one for repros. I know they are awesome but I'm one of those weirdos who like to say my collection is all original parts including missiles etc. that is why I want to start a knock off collection. I don't mind repros for those.
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Post by mikedeco on May 7, 2014 5:48:00 GMT -5
I'm almost sure that it's not a case of shill bidding as one of the highest bidder was the middleman I'm using and some people here are using also.
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Post by joweone on May 7, 2014 6:51:04 GMT -5
Last godsigma I remember was a boxed one from Australia a couple of years ago that went for $4000. I thought that was pricy but would pay that in a sec now. But if you look, it isn't just RF. Even the jumbos like Dangard Ace or Godmars have not been under $3000 for loose imperfect specimens. You can't get a loose voltes v for under $4500. Jumbos are a little weird where you don't see a big discrepancy in price with or without a box. Most collectors seem to want to get them for display and the box doesn't seem to matter as much. I saw a battle fever with box just go for 234000 yen. Is that considered expensive? Could be the last RF you can get under $4000. I really wonder how many collectors are out there. Maybe someone should do a mini jumbo machinder convention. And rodman, I'm like you. I'm not one for repros. I know they are awesome but I'm one of those weirdos who like to say my collection is all original parts including missiles etc. that is why I want to start a knock off collection. I don't mind repros for those. Dangard has been at the higher end for quite sometime,He's been highly sought after for years.Even when the robot factory Jms were 500-1000 he was easily 2k+. Voltes V, Dangard, D17 all real eased around same time in the line up and all have commanded top dollar for a long time. The godmars/sun vulcan were later as well but I think like robot factory's are experiencing a nostalgic boom, hence the high numbers. I wonder what the difference in production numbers were from say Getter 1 to the late runs of JMs.? From what I've seen some of the bigger character originals can still be had for relatively low prices.(maz,getters,gaiking,Kamen rider v3) . |
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Post by zambot3 on May 14, 2014 8:26:16 GMT -5
Looking at YHJ currently, a Leopardon that is broken w box sitting there for weeks at 600,000 with no buyers, seller decides to now raise it to 700,000. Sign of the times indeed.
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Post by joweone on May 14, 2014 8:36:04 GMT -5
I noticed a lot of the high end items that have been sitting were raised by 98,000
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Post by gilcholo59 on Jun 4, 2014 10:52:10 GMT -5
Wow! 315,000 yen for a boxless God Mars! Prices are definitely going crazy for Popy JMs!
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Post by devoidofemotions on Jun 4, 2014 18:35:43 GMT -5
Wow! 315,000 yen for a boxless God Mars! Prices are definitely going crazy for Popy JMs! That boxed leopaldon that condition is quite bad is Gone as well ! |
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Post by bowhntr66 on Jun 4, 2014 19:25:49 GMT -5
I'm wondering who's paying these prices.... I honestly hope it's not experienced collectors. Or maybe investments? Someone going to hold them for a while then resell? A newbe thinking the prices will only go up?
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