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Post by magengar on Dec 18, 2014 8:29:09 GMT -5
There is a logic behind that: for the Japanese, they portray their giant hero characters as having a calm "god-like" voice of Justice Peace and Wisdom when defending the Earth and the human race. A good example of that is the giant rocket-robot Goldar (Ambassador Magma Tashi) from the '60s TV series "The Space Giants", who spoke in a calm voice to his child friend who summoned him with a whistle whenever an alien monster appeared.  the question is where did the japanese people heard the "god-like" voice  and i was thinking the dinosaurs in Aizenbo is scary as a kid this guy is much scary than them lol he should be the final dinosaur boss You think he's scary? You should see his villain: he she or It is one scary-azzed beeitch!  --------------------------------- I found this link for a DVD website stocked with anime (classic, and modern) and tokusatsu stuff, check it out.  Tokusatsudvd.comtokusatsudvd.com/index.htm------------------------------------------------------------------ Back on topic. zozo-mag |
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Post by S_Gokin on Dec 18, 2014 8:59:31 GMT -5
the question is where did the japanese people heard the "god-like" voice and i was thinking the dinosaurs in Aizenbo is scary as a kid this guy is much scary than them lol he should be the final dinosaur boss You think he's scary? You should see his villain: he she or It is one scary-azzed beeitch! zozo-mag thank you magengar really now that will stick in my head i will definitely dream about them chasing me tonight you know the type of dream when you run you heart out and the one who is chasing you catch you up by just walking where the physics went man |
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Post by magengar on Dec 18, 2014 9:06:42 GMT -5
Sounds like what my mom used to do when I was a naughty kid back in the day. zozo-mag |
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Post by RoboFestivus on Dec 18, 2014 10:44:03 GMT -5
If a S.H. Figuarts or RAH figure of Goldar ever comes out, I will buy it in an instance! Good childhood memories from that show. These may not be what you are looking for, but they seem like great collectors items: Ambassador Magma by X-PlusThe majestic space giant known as Ambassador Magma is getting a terrific looking figure from X-Plus. He stands roughly 23 centimeters tall and comes with an alternate pointing arm to let evil know it will not win and an accessory of his alternate form: the Magma Rocket. Coming January 2014 for 11,340 yen.   www.collectiondx.com/news_item/123113/ambassador_magma_xplusGoa from Ambassador Magma by X-PlusAs a companion piece to their upcoming Ambassador Magma, X-Plus is making a finely detailed figure of his nemesis Goa. This fearsome alien invader stands 24 centimeters tall is features a highly detailed sculpt that invokes the image of a suit clad actor. His bulky body and luxurious locks of hair are especially well done. Goa is coming January 2014 for 19,845 yen.  www.collectiondx.com/news_item/123113/goa_ambassador_magma_xplus |
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Post by S_Gokin on Dec 18, 2014 12:58:47 GMT -5
These may not be what you are looking for, but they seem like great collectors items: Ambassador Magma by X-PlusThe majestic space giant known as Ambassador Magma is getting a terrific looking figure from X-Plus. He stands roughly 23 centimeters tall and comes with an alternate pointing arm to let evil know it will not win and an accessory of his alternate form: the Magma Rocket. Coming January 2014 for 11,340 yen. www.collectiondx.com/news_item/123113/ambassador_magma_xplusGoa from Ambassador Magma by X-PlusAs a companion piece to their upcoming Ambassador Magma, X-Plus is making a finely detailed figure of his nemesis Goa. This fearsome alien invader stands 24 centimeters tall is features a highly detailed sculpt that invokes the image of a suit clad actor. His bulky body and luxurious locks of hair are especially well done. Goa is coming January 2014 for 19,845 yen. www.collectiondx.com/news_item/123113/goa_ambassador_magma_xplusmore nightmares for me specially the last picture |
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Post by magengar on Dec 19, 2014 1:48:49 GMT -5
Magma Taishi looks a lot better in this OVA anime.....  zozo-mag |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2014 2:20:10 GMT -5
Magma Taishi looks a lot better in this OVA anime..... zozo-mag HELL NO!!! Nothing looks better that the tokusatsu original! |
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Post by S_Gokin on Dec 19, 2014 5:34:14 GMT -5
Magma Taishi looks a lot better in this OVA anime..... zozo-mag ton of plastic surgeries going on here |
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Post by magengar on Dec 20, 2014 1:56:00 GMT -5
Hey, don't get me wrong, I dig the tokusatsu original- rubber suits and all! I like the idea of a giant god-like "robot" being with long hair, it's unique; and I'm glad none of the other production studios copied that as a trend, like they did with the "rocket punch" which was started by Giant Robot 2 (Torozon) from the '67 Johnny Sokko series. As for this anime OVA version of Magma Taishi, he looks pretty slick. I've been trying to watch the OVA on YouTube, but I haven't found all the episodes with English dub. ---------------------------------- Anyway, enough about Magma Taishi. Back on topic..... So, I've read info that Astroganger is supposedly the first "piloted" giant anime super-robot... when you think about it, the kid transforms and fades into Astroganger's body, and that was before the idea of sticking pilots inside the robots later on. This series is also the first of its kind to have the pilot "fade in"... ...this feat was later copied in the 1975 Yuusha Raideen series, in which the pilot Akira Hibiki also fades into his robot's body. Astroganger had no special weapons or laser abilities... he was all brute-strength and flight. This places him in 2nd place as a "brute-strength" class giant flying super-robot. Guess who was the first brute-strength class giant flying super-robot (it wasn't Mazinger-Z). zozo-mag |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2014 2:17:45 GMT -5
Tetsujin 28.
And it was not a super robot, it was the first giant robot.
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Post by magengar on Dec 20, 2014 3:06:42 GMT -5
Tetsujin 28, non super-robot is correct. I tossed that "super-robot" term in there to distract any wild guessing, but you've managed to catch that and dodge it like a fastball.  zozo-mag |
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Post by Mechanical Flesh on Dec 20, 2014 5:57:18 GMT -5
Tetsujin 28. And it was not a super robot, it was the first giant robot. Actually it depends on your definition of Super Robot. The term was introduced much later, in 1972 with Mazinger Z's intro theme (suupaaa robotoooo ♫ Majingaaaa Zettooooo ♫), but it doesn't really mean that Maz was the first Super Robot ever. In fact, many people agree on Tetsujin 28 being the first ever SR. The way it is controlled is not that important, there are other defining characteristics (the type of enemies the main robot encounters, how strong it is, etc.). In fact, if a SR is just a "piloted from an internal cockpit" giant mechanism, then you're leaving a lot of stuff out, a lot of Super Robots out. |
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Post by Mechanical Flesh on Dec 20, 2014 6:10:41 GMT -5
Anyway, enough about Magma Taishi. Back on topic..... So, I've read info that Astroganger is supposedly the first "piloted" giant anime super-robot... when you think about it, the kid transforms and fades into Astroganger's body, and that was before the idea of sticking pilots inside the robots later on. This series is also the first of its kind to have the pilot "fade in"... ...this feat was later copied in the 1975 Yuusha Raideen series, in which the pilot Akira Hibiki also fades into his robot's body. Astroganger had no special weapons or laser abilities... he was all brute-strength and flight. This places him in 2nd place as a "brute-strength" class giant flying super-robot. Guess who was the first brute-strength class giant flying super-robot (it wasn't Mazinger-Z). zozo-mag From what I read in my book-encyclopedia "Super Robot Files 1963-1978" Astroganger isn't really piloted... And I haven't watched the show yet, so I'm just reporting what I read about it: the Super Robot Astroganger had an artificial intelligence which made it autonomous in combat, it didn't need any instructions or commands. The little kid, however, could "fade" inside the robot, by using his special medallion/badge, transforming himself into some sort of spiritual form. Now, this just had the effect of increasing Astroganger's strength and motivation, but the robot kept total control of its body and mind. When the kid fades inside Astroganger, he can't pilot it or control it in any way, he just "strengthens" the robot  I don't know the details, I just know that it's not really piloting in the strict sense of the term. |
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Post by chogokinabdul on Dec 20, 2014 10:32:33 GMT -5
Hey, don't get me wrong, I dig the tokusatsu original- rubber suits and all! I like the idea of a giant god-like "robot" being with long hair, it's unique; and I'm glad none of the other production studios copied that as a trend, like they did with the "rocket punch" which was started by Giant Robot 2 (Torozon) from the '67 Johnny Sokko series. As for this anime OVA version of Magma Taishi, he looks pretty slick. I've been trying to watch the OVA on YouTube, but I haven't found all the episodes with English dub. ---------------------------------- Anyway, enough about Magma Taishi. Back on topic..... So, I've read info that Astroganger is supposedly the first "piloted" giant anime super-robot... when you think about it, the kid transforms and fades into Astroganger's body, and that was before the idea of sticking pilots inside the robots later on. This series is also the first of its kind to have the pilot "fade in"... ...this feat was later copied in the 1975 Yuusha Raideen series, in which the pilot Akira Hibiki also fades into his robot's body. Astroganger had no special weapons or laser abilities... he was all brute-strength and flight. This places him in 2nd place as a "brute-strength" class giant flying super-robot. Guess who was the first brute-strength class giant flying super-robot (it wasn't Mazinger-Z). zozo-mag Just to set things straight, astroganga is not a robot! It is a metallic creature! If you open him you won't find any electronic devices or screws, you will find cells! And he is not piloted by the little boy! He join forces with him to get the full power and become the full warrior he was meant to be |
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Post by TheMazingerZ on Dec 20, 2014 11:15:24 GMT -5
So, Astroganger is similar to the Ultramen then? They are not robots, merge with humans (at times) in order to fight, and are alien in nature. I just learned something new. }D |
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Post by S_Gokin on Dec 20, 2014 12:05:13 GMT -5
in the wiki they are saying about AstroGanger however chogokinabdul is right he isnt a robot he is a creature thats why he is more unique than the others and Tetsujin 28 was the first giant robot i know he was remote controlled but he was the first BTW does any one know what Tetsujin means ? even Baron Ashura soliders was called Tetsujin  |
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Post by magengar on Dec 20, 2014 12:25:33 GMT -5
So, Astroganger is similar to the Ultramen then? They are not robots, merge with humans (at times) in order to fight, and are alien in nature. I just learned something new. }D Same here. I've always heard of Astroganger; and after watching a couple episodes I was under the impression that the kid somehow controlled Astroganger from inside. I used the term "pilot" loosely to describe the interacting between the human and a giant robot. That doesn't always mean sitting inside a "cockpit" operating steering wheels and stick-shifts with anti-lock brakes and power-steering with a jesus mary figurine on the dashboard and a teabag pair of dice hanging from the rear-view mirror. lol Anyway... when I referred to the "pilot" term I was trying to set up a time in anime history when giant robots began being piloted by humans. In the '60s that was already done in the live tokusatsu shows like Mach Baron. During that time no one had thought about the "Pilot" or "internal operator" concept until the idea was adopted later on in anime. I just now learned that Astroganger isn't a robot, but a living being; and the kid is his power-up or interface or whatever you might wanna call it. What does the kid do inside Astroganger that whole time he's inside? I'm sure he's not sitting around reading a manga while waiting for Ganger to finish his battle. lol The kid interacts with Astroganger somehow, when he merges with the giant... ...so, I give credit to Astroganger for being the first giant being with a "human pilot" inside. Hey, this giant being has a kid that fades inside and interacts with it, cool!Since the Astroganger show, other anime shows followed that idea and expanded on it later on. A couple months later Mazinger-Z took that idea up a notch as the first mechanical*** super-robot to be internally piloted by a human being, with the help of a vehicle that is the robot's "brain". This also marked the first symbiotic relationship between a human and a giant robot, because the machine (robot) depended on the pilot (human) to make it "become alive". This symbiotic robot/human relationship is what set the standard for this anime genre, and this is what made the Mazinger-Z anime so appealing that it earned high ratings. This is what inspired masses of anime giant robot shows which followed later on. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- *** but, whoa, wait a sec... Gatchaman should have 1st Place for having the first mechanical internally-piloted giant robot ( Turtle King was an armored ship built like a robot, and operated by a crew). The only difference is that most of the enemy robot ships in Gatchaman weren't symbiotic, while some of the enemy monsters were intelligent organisms capable of hijacking machinery and using them as weapons for sabotage and combat. That TV show started in October '72, just barely three months before the Mazinger-Z series aired. lol Never mind. We can save this for another thread topic later on. zozo-mag |
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Post by magengar on Dec 20, 2014 12:37:31 GMT -5
in the wiki they are saying about AstroGanger however chogokinabdul is right he isnt a robot he is a creature thats why he is more unique than the others and Tetsujin 28 was the first giant robot i know he was remote controlled but he was the first BTW does any one know what Tetsujin means ? even Baron Ashura soliders was called Tetsujin Tetsujin means "iron man", or "one with a body strong as iron". Baron Ashura's grunts were called Tekkamen "armored soldiers" which obviously refers to the iron masks. zozo-mag |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2014 13:00:17 GMT -5
Tetsujin 28. And it was not a super robot, it was the first giant robot. Actually it depends on your definition of Super Robot. The term was introduced much later, in 1972 with Mazinger Z's intro theme (suupaaa robotoooo ♫ Majingaaaa Zettooooo ♫), but it doesn't really mean that Maz was the first Super Robot ever. In fact, many people agree on Tetsujin 28 being the first ever SR. The way it is controlled is not that important, there are other defining characteristics (the type of enemies the main robot encounters, how strong it is, etc.). In fact, if a SR is just a "piloted from an internal cockpit" giant mechanism, then you're leaving a lot of stuff out, a lot of Super Robots out. Tetsujin 28 is the first giant robot. Mazinger Z is the first super robot. The Super robot terminology was discussed to death in various forums, so I am not going to start this discussion again. However, the above statements are true and correct to 99.99% of the collecting community. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2014 13:04:39 GMT -5
in the wiki they are saying about AstroGanger however chogokinabdul is right he isnt a robot he is a creature thats why he is more unique than the others and Tetsujin 28 was the first giant robot i know he was remote controlled but he was the first BTW does any one know what Tetsujin means ? even Baron Ashura soliders was called Tetsujin This is a reason why I do not trust Wikipedia. Astrogangar was indeed a living mechanical creature. It was not a super robot in any way shape or form. And to answer your question, Tetsujin translates to Iron Man. |
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